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The Q7 is ZTE's iPhone 6 Plus wannabe

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The Q7 is ZTE's iPhone 6 Plus wannabe
Not long after Lenovo introduced its iPhone 6-like S90 smartphone, ZTE (another big company from China) is now also getting ready to launch a handset that borrows quite a lot from the design of Apple’s latest iPhone.

Called Q7, ZTE’s device is an iPhone 6 Plus wannabe, having roughly the same dimensions (157 x 78 x 7.9 mm vs. 158 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm), plus a similarly-sized 5.5-inch screen. However, the display of the ZTE Q7 has a 720 x 1280 pixel resolution, thus being inferior to the 1080p screen of the iPhone 6 Plus.

The Q7 runs Android 4.4.4 KitKat, and is powered by an octa-core 1.5 GHz processor that’s likely made by MediaTek. Other features include LTE connectivity, 8 MP rear camera with dual LED flash, 3 MP front-facing camera, 2 GB of RAM, and 16 GB of expandable storage space. The new smartphone was approved recently by China’s Telecommunication Equipment Certification Center, so it will probably be released in China in the near future. We assume that ZTE will not charge too much for the Q7. What do you think, does this look like a good Android-based alternative to the iPhone 6 Plus?


source: TENAA (translated)

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posted on 08 Dec 2014, 21:36 4

1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10434; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Why does Apple go for Samsung and not companies like these who blatantly copy?

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:06 3

6. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Cause they would NEVER win a lawsuit in china.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:37 2

10. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Actually, you spoke out of perception. In the modern China, i.e. CY2014 era, Apple can win the lawsuit if its "exterior" design was copied. But, the financial consequence would be small to those who lose the lawsuit. As a result, many companies don't bother.

However, given that the lawsuit between Apple and Samsung, are you still so sure that the shape of this ZTE Q7 violates any of the design patents owned by Apple? Are you not aware of the fact that even Apple's design patents have a lot of similarity to the prior arts from Sony?

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 23:48

18. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Yeah all I will say is good luck on suing a Chinese company in China and winning.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 00:27

21. Chuck007 (Posts: 1040; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


Gotta agree with the amount of state involvement of businesses (many of which are secretly owned by the State unbeknownst to investors) in China, chances of them winning is next to nil. You deal with the Communists and give them power - what else do you expect?

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 07:05

31. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Chuck007, please beware we no longer live in the cold war or 007 era! Do you know that ZTE already sent off legal letter to XiaoMi to compliant at patent violation? Huawei also sent off a lesser-word letter to XiaoMi. In fact, I hope Apple / Samsung / Lenovo / Sony start the lawsuits against XiaoMi in India, Singapore, Taiwan, and Europe. Mi3, Mi4, RedMi, RedMi Note certainly violated the IPs (design, implementation, architecture, system, firmware, etc.). At the end of the day, everybody needs to play by the rule book in the world economy. But, I can say that Huawei / ZTE / Lenovo also owes a lot of patents, definitely in 4G and the upcoming 5G (to be released by ITU in CY2020). Therefore, do not assume that companies in China know nothing except copying. The rule book in China is changing! Because the earth is round, the new rule may turn out not exactly what the western culture would like to see happened. But then, the world is evolving such that marriage is no longer limited to opposite sex. So, why not the rule book by which companies follow?

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 10:00

38. Chuck007 (Posts: 1040; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


Some good points there, but mind I wasnt talking about innovation. Anyone with decent R&D money can invent new technologies and pitch it to the world hoping it'll catch on. The problem here is, as long as China sticks with their Communist ideologies, there is no way they'd sustain their economy when their alliances apart from Russia are fragile at best. USA isnt innocent either (NSA comes to mind), but they don't at least forcefully snap resources from their neighbours, claim all disputed areas as theirs, and expect no consequences. China isnt self sustainable and when they outweigh their use, there is always a risk they'd make a drastic downturn. Not saying it's going to happen for sure but just think this: even their elite are doing anything in their power to emmigrate their families to the west and try to strike a balance between continuing to make money and escape their allegiances with the communist party (look it up it's a thing). Meanwhile Communists never admit fault as it supposedly exhibits weakness, how else do you expect them to take the lead for long?

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 10:09

39. Chuck007 (Posts: 1040; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


Also, Chinese companies can sue each other all they want, foreign companies who sue mainland companies in their native turf are destined to fail. I have yet seen a single non-Chinese company there being treated fairly. When officials demand you hand over your designs because of your supposed monopoly, something certainly aint right. Please correct me if I am wrong.

posted on 10 Dec 2014, 11:06

42. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Chuck, be real. Communism, Imperialism, Democracy, Dictatorship, Christianity, Muslim can all be great in theory. In real world (or the human world), what have these theories become or evolve into. As long as these are managed by human beings, they can never be as good as what the text books are telling us. Since this is an imperfect world, compromises and trade-off are inevitable. Some look good, some look bad. Some may look bad now, but may lead to a good effect after many years.

I assume that "forcefully snap resources from their neighbours" referred to the disputes between Japan and China/Taiwan, between China and Vietnam, between China and Philippine. The disputes between China and Japan was due to a forced act by the US government who had no right after the 2nd world war (please look at the history how Taiwan and the islands in dispute were seized by Japan after China failed a series of battle before CY1900 and the Declaration at Cairo). The disputes involving Philippine and Vietnam were political jokes (again, please refer to the history in the past 500 years). Your description about the mentality of the ruling party and many of the citizens in China are correct. But then, we are talking about the game rules by which the companies in China have to play, aren't we? In this regard, China government has no choice but to enforce a change to the game rules in China. It is because China is now a member of the WTO. How long would the ruling party in China last? I don't have the crystal ball. I suggest that we stay on the business and the technical aspects of smartphones. My opinion is: things change, the China companies who were used to make cheap and unreliable stuff have improved, companies who were used to be in the lead (e.g. Panasonic, Sony, Motorola, DEC, Thomson, Philips, Grundig, ...) fell and disappeared. My suggestion is: observe, study, compare, evaluate with our mind open as much as possible. iPhone3 was better made than the competition, but is iPhone6/6+ surely better than the competition, I believe that the objective answer should be 'NO'. For instance, people (especially those from Asia) were used to say American and Korean cars were unreliable when compared to those made in Japan. This is no longer true, isn't it? But why?

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 03:24

28. deewinc (Posts: 230; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


HTC too.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:07

8. DeusExCellula (Posts: 1084; Member since: 05 Oct 2014)


I wondered that too. Between this, Lenovo S90 and the Dakele Big Cola 3. I wonder why Apple say anytthing

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 07:12

32. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Lenovo is now in possession of a lot of patents, from Motorola / NEC / IBM. Because some of these would be key patents which Apple may not be able to beat. Remember, Lenovo and Apple are commercial establishments whose sole interest is to make money but not to sue each other to stifle innovation and to throw money away to the lawyers!

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:23

9. meanestgenius (Posts: 9727; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Because Samsung is a bigger threat to Apple than ZTE or Lenovo currently is. Kinda obvious, actually.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 00:11

20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10434; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Um, no. Apple could easily win millions just off Lenovo and ZTE, and that's not factoring in other OEMs.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 02:23

25. meanestgenius (Posts: 9727; Member since: 28 May 2014)


I never said they couldn't. I said Samsung is more of a threat to Apple, and that's true. You go after the "big dog" in Android first. If you win all, or the most important, cases against them, THEN it will be easier to out the rest that are smaller. They will fold much quicker.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 07:19

33. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


PapaSmurf, I am afraid that you are too naïve. If you were involved in high tech since 1975, you should be aware that Lenovo had in its possession many fundamental patents originated from Motorola / IBM / NEC. You can ask Apple the following question "Do you ever not violated any of the patents from Motorola / IBM / NEC?" More than likely, Apple will remain silent.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 16:44

40. asrr62 (Posts: 56; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)


google kept most of the patents. lenovo bought motorola for a fraction of the cost that google did.

posted on 10 Dec 2014, 10:30

41. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


asrr62. Yes, Google kept the right to use the patents. But, please look at the "fine print". Fact is, Lenovo also gets the right to use the patents and the ability the use the patents to defend itself against any lawsuit. That is, both Google and Lenovo have the right to use the IPs invented by the once mighty Motorola.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 21:38

2. Tziggy14 (Posts: 440; Member since: 02 Sep 2014)


Chinese companies are pitiful. No original ideas whatsoever.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 07:20

34. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Tziggy14, how old are you? 14? You spoke and wrote like a kid with IQ and EQ comparable to those studying in the primary school.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 21:39

3. ancellim (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Mar 2014)


Every Chinese company is copying Apple...

IMO, I would pay the price of an iPhone 6 because I appreciate the hard work by Apple engineers to create such a nice design.

I dislike these Chinese companies though. No copyright laws in China.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 21:45 1

4. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1067; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)


Technically, there are, but they're not enforced well.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 21:48

5. yolochi (Posts: 51; Member since: 03 Feb 2013)


money solves eveything

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:56

13. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1067; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)


Not anymore. Xi JinPing is cracking down really hard on corruption in China.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:57 1

14. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1067; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)


And I like how this was your first post.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:06

7. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


and good luck suing a Chinese company IN china.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:43

11. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Your statement is definitely WRONG because it states that every conceivable OEMs in China copies. Please open up your eyes and your mind.

By the way, if you look back at history, didn't US copy Europe, didn't Asia (Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China in this order) copy US and Europe? After all, in product designs, didn't we kind of copy each other and add our own innovation or differentiation however you want to term it? Therefore, please kindly refrain yourself from being too generic and too overboard in opinions and words. Be modest and be truthful.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 22:51

12. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Who invented the phablet category? Samsung. Who proliferated the phablet category? Smartphone OEMs/OBMs in China and Taiwan. Therefore, during the design (exterior) of iPhone6 and 6 plus, it is very likely that Apple took reference (or copying in ancellim's assessment) of all these large-screen smartphones designed and manufactured in China in the past two to three years! So, Apple is not exactly innovative and unique. After all, we all copy each others, in times.

Please wake up, freshen your mind, open up your eyes, think more before making accusation :)

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 23:00

15. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1067; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)


No, IMO the phablet category was invented by HTC with their 5-inch-screened HTC Advantage X7500, from 2007.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 07:24

35. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


I believe that HTC released the first smartphone with WinCE OS and screen size of 4" and 4.3". In the history of smartphone, HTC was always the first manufacturer of the largest screen-size smartphone until the Note1 from Samsung.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 01:51

24. aksa123 (Posts: 319; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


That's not what copying and infringement are.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 23:23

17. Doakie (Posts: 1866; Member since: 06 May 2009)


I can't believe the Chinese companies even copy the stupid looking white bands on the back....

Honestly I can't believe they bother copying Apple just to sell a handful more phones, I get sort of offended when smartphone ignorant people ask if my OnePlus One is an iPhone..... Then I say "No it's a OnePlus One." and 100% of the people say "A what?"

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 23:00 1

16. CreeDiddy (Posts: 607; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


Anytime Apple comes out with a hit product, there are many Android manufacturers that want to copy! It's almost like convincing someone to buy a product half the price because it's a mirror clone of the real thing. It's quite sad. Apple's intellectual property theft is Apple's biggest threat to their business to China.

posted on 08 Dec 2014, 23:49

19. dimas (Posts: 1910; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


Really? Apple copied Meizu MX3s design for it's iPhone 6. It just happened that the design was a hit with iPhone that Chinese OEMs are starting to adapt the design that people ignored years ago. Everybody's imitating everybody, no exception so this android copying apple debate ignorance should stop.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 02:33

27. AlikMalix (Posts: 5069; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I have to disagree, perspectively, iPhones carry on the distinguishing design language from the Original iPhone.... iPhone 6 looks like a bigger slightly redesigned iPhone of another era... that's their signature... you can tell it's an iPhone from a distance, it's only when you hold one you can see it's a completely different phone in detail...

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 06:53

30. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Once again, you gave too much credit to the "distinguished design language" of the original iPhone3. First of all, iPhone3 looks very similar to an earlier Sony design. Secondly, iPhone6 is so u...! Besides, the 2.5D display design of the screen cover was copied from Nokia!

Remember, everybody takes reference of the others. In general, a design cannot be simply stretched out in x,y,z dimension. But, fortunately, for Apple, it has so many prior arts including the Meizu, XiaoMu, Coolpad, Lenovo, Huawei, Oppo, Vivo, T1, ... and lastly Samsung to take reference!

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 07:30

36. P-YWS (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


CreeDiddy, I assume that you live in US, hence you have seen only a limited representation of the smartphone designed and produced. Apple dos not invent the smartphone category nor did it invent smartphones with screen size bigger than 3.5". Observe, think, study, before making a statement like what you have done.

Personally, I believe that Apple's biggest threat comes from its arrogance and margin model.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 01:04

22. pegasso (Posts: 270; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)


say,
if i bought this Q7 and an iphone6+ 's case (UAG, Spigen, etc),
will it fit?

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 02:31

26. AlikMalix (Posts: 5069; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


... interesting question..

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 01:42

23. Sharky (Posts: 233; Member since: 24 Jun 2008)


This is the company that now owns Motorola... Ugh.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 04:30

29. kurama. (Posts: 85; Member since: 13 Sep 2014)


Hey this one won't bend lmao. And China got ideas too the oppo phones are really great.

posted on 09 Dec 2014, 09:44

37. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)


Well at least they changed the camera and flash orientation unlike Nokias tablet attempt.

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