Steve Jobs pegged 2011 as the year for a 'Holy War with Google,' court docs reveal
20. Ashoaib (Posts: 3223; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
"tie all of our products together, so we further lock customers in our ecosystem".. this tying up stretegy made me break up away from apple last year, one of the reason
2. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2230; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
If you can't beat them,, sue the chit out of them.....i hope Samsung wins this.. Not a fanboy.. Just love competition!!!
5. express77 (unregistered)
same here. respect steve jobs and apple but hate patent trolling limiting competition.
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It isn't patent trolling. It is pure unadulterated business. Steve had the $ to fund a thermonuclear jihad, and he did it.
Welcome to life in the corporatocracy - where consumers are basically serfs who exist to fund the corporation. And the ego of the corporation's executives.
10. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
exactly, and it has been happening for a while since the days of deregulation...I mean, look at who Obama bailed out...the homeowners? Nope. Look at what Iceland did after it had its financial crisis...they created a new govt, a new Constitution and kicked out the perpetrators...
11. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Unfortunately, Samsung is going to lose - hopefully, not too badly...
12. Finalflash (Posts: 2694; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Not really, as time goes on more and more people learn about these trials and most people seem to be siding against Apple. The first jury was largely biased by the one guy who held a patent and was all "patent office can never be wrong". Then the patent office started invalidating Apple's crap, and now Samsung have some pretty good publicity going forward as Apple's nuclear war against Android becomes more public knowledge.
13. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Oh, I agree, I meant they will lose at the trial - but, as I have said on G+, it will not be the end of APPLE - totally agree that these trials will backfire on APPLE, and have been - especially from those outside of the U.S.
3. umlguy (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
And this is the main reason that Apple is part of the evil empire. They don't want to simply compete, they want to try and throttle competition in court. In the end a losing proposition that really only helps the law firms!
6. mturby (unregistered)
LOCK CUSTOMERS? Fku apple...
8. jroc74 (Posts: 5967; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Holy war with Google....not Samsung...
Thats exactly the point many of as are trying to make. They are going after Google any way they can. Like MS and their license fees. That only a few Android OEMs stood up to. And it was a stale mate with Moto and MS.....both being found guilty of using the other stuff.
I wouldnt be surprised if the lawsuits with Samsung also didnt start until around 2011...
9. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
aka, go to court and sue them....Jobs was just another corporate scumbag and it is sad that lots of Americans worship the guy - 'beware of false idols'....
14. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
"Locking in customers" This has been around for quite a long time now, Samsung just seeks to throw in Google into the equation to even out the situation. Samsung will do all it takes to get this whole sheet going at snail pace, this time around Andy f**kin Rubin is going about it too so it just goes without saying.
This kind of explains the cross licensing deal between Samesung and Google earlier this year, yea that really wasn't about amping up innovation as much as it was about going after Apple. They already knew that when it came to this Android would be sort of the only way to bail them out. It's funny some time ago Samsung had to investigate why people returned its tabs at Best Buy only to discover people saying "I thought it was an ipad".
15. tedkord (Posts: 9692; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
A cross licensing deal with Google is still a more honorable business strategy than taking advantage of a busted patent system and competing in the courtroom.
And anyone who bought a tablet with a big SAMSUNG logo on it thinking it was an iPad is probably too dumb to own a tablet.
17. androiphone20 (Posts: 1654; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
Or maybe the average consumer didn't go as far as to mind the branding back then, all that mattered was getting an ipad and there it was an ipad knockoff. Please allow me to call it the goophone strategy that was being pulled off by...you know who
19. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Samsung is not even close to doing what Goophone does. That's a major stretch to put those two in the same boat.
18. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
I thought it was an ipad? with a huge SAMSUNG logo on it and plenty on the box? wow bro.. the hell did you say now? lol
21. jroc74 (Posts: 5967; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I make that mistake all the time when buying monitors and HDTV's...
And no one is going after Apple....they are....defending themselves.....against....Apple.
Why do you think Moto never went after MS about whatever MS was guilty of using? Check the lawsuit history about that and that will tell a better picture.
16. Karriope (Posts: 95; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)
I'm just going to hold up for a second and... wonder, um, how'd Samsung get ahold of these documents, anyway?
22. ibap (Posts: 752; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
Unobtrusively? Only if you've got your head in the sand or parked somewhere within your anatomy.