With the jury seated, opening statements due today in Apple v. Samsung 2

With the jury seated, opening statements due today in Apple v. Samsung 2
The jury for the second Apple versus Samsung patent trial has been seated, and experts say that this group seems a lot less tech oriented than the jury from the first trial. The newly seated panel includes a police officer, a retired schoolteacher, a plumber, tech company secretary, a  Big Lots clerk, a Monterey County government worker and an executive for a solar panel company. In the first trial, a retired electrical engineer, Velvin Hogan, took control of the jury and was selected as its foreman. Hogan had received a patent and used this experience to explain technical aspects of the case to his fellow jurors.

The current jury, while not tech savvy, has at least one Samsung attorney worried that "Samsung is starting out a little behind." The jury pool did not seem too familiar with Samsung devices, most admitting to owning a number of Apple products.

Opening statements will start today and when both sides are done, Apple will call marketing chief Phil Schiller to the stand. Apple is seeking $40 from Samsung for each phone or tablet sold that infringes on an Apple patent. Overall, Apple is seeking $2 billion. This time around, the trial will feature recent devices including the Samsung Galaxy S III. Most experts believe that this could lead to a larger jury award than the $1.05 billion that Apple won after the first trial. That was later reduced to $929.8 million following a ruling by Judge Lucy Koh and a retrial. For its part, Samsung is seeking $7 million after filing cross-claims against Apple.

Some of the patents that will be at play in the new trial include the '604 universal search patent, also known as the Siri patent, and the infamous slide-to-unlock patent.

source: SanJoseMercuryNews via GigaOM



1. mas11

Posts: 1034; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

I love how this case is starting out on April fools day, seems appropriate

2. Sauce unregistered

I love PA users take this court hearing to the most serious levels lol. Two corporations fighting over silly things for billions and billions of dollars. LOOOOOOL your voices and opinions mean nothing unless you're in those seats. Don't pop a vein.

11. darkkjedii

Posts: 31036; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

They actually think they'll make a difference.

14. Sauce unregistered

Lol tell me about it. But whatever lol. It makes the people (who go haywire and comment with serious thought out google-researched answers) feel good about themselves to a bunch of complete strangers on this site, egotistically boosted by green thumbs and related fanboys. xD xD xD

26. darkkjedii

Posts: 31036; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

They feel like big bad bullies, when they get to dis apple, and it's users. Do it in person lol, not on a site. It's gotten comical dude.

25. tedkord

Posts: 17356; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

No one thinks they'll make a difference. But everyone is entitled to an opinion, and to post it here.

27. Sauce unregistered

Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools because they have to say something.

28. EclipseGSX

Posts: 1776; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Which would make you a fool. Pot meet kettle...

30. techperson211

Posts: 1280; Member since: Feb 27, 2014

He thinks that he is smart a$$.

36. Sauce unregistered

The bait. The bait. Its too good. LOOOOL

35. Sauce unregistered

Hook line and sinker to you

5. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

we all know result will be in apple's favour... what plumber, school teacher, police officer etc has to do with such a technical case? seems like court is insane. ... how they all will understand the technicalities of a technology? seem like donkeys are going to run in a horse race... Next time I will not wonder if I will hear any news that US has deployed taylors to do operations in hospital or chickens are been raised instead of cows to give milk

7. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

In that case, why let teachers, plumbers, and police officers vote for President? They obviously don't understand the technicalities of a political office.

13. JMartin22

Posts: 2370; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

That's not a good analogy at all. Because someone going into a political office affects the best interest of a republic in one way or another. So their vote on how they think they want their country ran, regardless of profession, counts. Now, a technological patent case is different. That's where experience and understanding of the prior history of a technological patent came from, and whether or not another patent in its current form is too vague to something preexisting, should be valid. This case, sadly will come down to who has the best and most convincing spin story, irrespective of the facts.

21. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

And elections don't come down to who runs the best campaign with the best spin possible? In both cases the voters/jurors are heavily if not entirely reliant on evidence presented by each party. In the case of an election, the voter chooses, based on his interpretation of data, the candidate he thinks is best fit to run the country. In the juror's case, he chooses, based on his interpretation of the data, which party's case is better, i.e. which side fits what our nation's justice system would deem as correct. Both situations regard how well their country is run.

20. talon95

Posts: 998; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

A jury makes a decision, they don't elect someone knowledgeable to make a decision. They should have all technical people on the jury if we want an intelligent conclusion. The reality is that any company hoping to sue for 25% of the valve of the device itself, over software features that are worth less than 1% of the device, is completely egregious. It's outrageous at any level. The fact that many of these patents even exist is testament to a broken system, and that they can sue for 100 times the valve is anticompetitive to say the least.

16. engineer-1701d unregistered

i love how they said they look alot less tech oriented are you stupid a sec is on her or his phone all day for work as well same with plumbers a solar panel guy really all of them know what is going on in the tech world a cop and a school teacher wow samsung is efffffffffed cant wait till apples sues htc for the iphone 6 looking like the htc m8

23. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

I love how you just tried to make sense.

19. engineer-1701d unregistered

i love how they are suing over the universal search when web os had and made that first then apple came out with it later, that should be a frand patent just like samsungs 3g tech is a frand patent because all phones need it to compete

22. stealthd unregistered

Apple had it in OS X before WebOS came out.

3. mturby unregistered

The jury pool did not seem too familiar with Samsung devices, most admitting to owning a number of Apple products. NOT FAMILIAR WITH SAMSUNG DEVICES? REALLY? SAMSUNG DEVICES ARE WELL KNOWN AROUND THE GLOBE, SPECIALLY IN THE U.S. TV's, PHONES, REFRIGERATORS, MICROWAVES...oh boy..poor samsung. Although i hate samsung phones for being ugly, cheap, bad materials and long term and expensive propaganda, (except for the note 2 and 3), i feel towards samsung...bad samsung bad.... ps: Google phones lover

4. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Ideally they'll have chosen a jury that isn't familiar with either. You'd think that of all the possible candidates, at least 12 would be behind enough in the times to not know what's going on.

9. Sauce unregistered

You seem quite upset.

8. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2350; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

Jury duty is for thots....

12. darkkjedii

Posts: 31036; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

The company with an "a" in its name should win.

15. JMartin22

Posts: 2370; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

Why? What if your favorite "A" starts putting out lackluster products because they have no competition to keep them in check?

18. engineer-1701d unregistered

really they both have a i think it should all be acquitted and dropped and start fresh. no patent trials for 5 years.

29. EclipseGSX

Posts: 1776; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

So both? Yes I agree

37. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

I see what you did there...

24. Topcat488

Posts: 1415; Member since: Sep 29, 2012

I hope Samsung WINS... :) Apple cries too much, like a little spoiled brat... Momma i hurt myself again... look momma what i can do... momma,,,,, Obama pick me up... O.o Momma?

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