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Qualcomm starts making iPhone LTE radios soon, will need lots of 28-nanometer silicon

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Qualcomm starts making iPhone LTE radios soon, will need lots of 28-nanometer silicon
One of the features expected to finally arrive on the iPhone with the smartphone's next iteration is LTE connectivity. According to DigiTimes, production of the needed radios is to begin in the very near future. Qualcomm is the manufacturer burdened with the task, the source clarifies. The LTE radios will be made at the TSMC factory using 28-nanometer process, and about 10,000 12-inch wafers will be required. 

Those 10,000 wafers are actually quite a lot – about a third of the foundry's capacity. That is also about as much as NVIDIA will need for its chips, which is bad news for the rest of the companies in need of 28-nanometer wafers. In addition, the TSMC foundry is where Broadcom will be making the Wi-Fi chips, expected to be fitted inside the upcoming new iPhone, which will make meeting the demand for 28-nanometer silicon even more difficult than it already is.

All in all, 28-nanometer chips are likely to be in low supply until TSMC manages to ramp up its production to 50,000 per month, which is expected to happen before the year's end. It is said that over $8 million have been invested in order to make that possible.

source: DigiTimes

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posted on 15 Jun 2012, 08:35 5

1. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


Is it me or i just read somewhere that there is a chance that Apple might get sued by Samsung if they use LTE on their upcoming iPhone? lol

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 08:49 4

2. darkkjedii (Posts: 22052; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Only if it's implemented a certain way. Apple will do it n a way
That still allows great battery life though.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:04 9

3. frydaexiii (Posts: 1460; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Yeah, by taking away more functions.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 11:34 2

19. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You just don't get it

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 13:13 4

25. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


No, you just don't get it.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:07 1

5. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Oh, crap. Meant to thumbs down. Sorry bro. -_-

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 10:59 3

14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I really hope they get sued. Samsung delays the launch of the iPhone and then Apple will finally know how it feels.

But then I have doubts. Apple will probably file 20 patents on LTE before the phone comes out.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 16:29 2

32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Can they find that many bar napkins in time?? I doubt they can afford to lose that many iphones to make patents.. lol

posted on 16 Jun 2012, 06:52 1

42. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


"Apple will do it n a way That still allows great battery life though".

They dont really have to. They just waited til the LTE tech was better on battery life. Like so many said they were gonna do when LTE phones first came out. The more I read n hear n learn about Apple..the more some of these guys predictions comes true.

That 28 nanometer chip already is better vs whats out now. IF Apple was smart...they will either use Qualcomm chips that have it intergrated on the whole thing...or find a way to intergrate it on whatever chip they use. I cant see Apple using an S4. If they did they will probably use it, make their tweaks, adjustments and give it a new name.

http://gizmodo.com/5887205/new-snapdragon-chip-with-integrated-lte-will-save-your-battery

This reminds me....the next chip in the iPhone 5 will be interesting.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:05 6

4. frydaexiii (Posts: 1460; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Yup, and they deserve it....

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:11 4

6. ph00ny (Posts: 1264; Member since: 26 May 2011)


They probably will since Samsung supposedly owns more than 10% of essential LTE patents

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:32

7. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


That's what i'm saying.. I think that's Samsung trump card if things will get out of hand, but who knows.. Apple is very powerful on their country..

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 15:40

30. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


No because this is from Qualcomm chip, Qualcomm would already has license it from Samsung.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:40

8. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


oh and the battle for surpremancy continues.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 11:35 3

20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Samsung's next flagship device will have 3D maps

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 12:28 2

23. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


you just don't get it.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 13:52 2

27. audiblenarcotic (Posts: 111; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Google Maps already has 3D functionality... jeez.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 16:29 3

33. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Android has had 3d maps for 1-2 years now taco. Like always, Apple users think they are first to something when they finally get it.. though they are normally last to the party.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 22:31 2

39. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


Apple's next flagship device will suddenly be all about bigger screens and LTE.

posted on 16 Jun 2012, 06:29

40. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Since it will have Google Maps...you are correct....lol.

In fact...their current flagship already has 3D maps...lol.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 09:46 7

9. Ivan6479 (Posts: 250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


So Apple is finally going to try and make a real 4G device instead of just fooling their customers by displaying 4G on their iPhone 4's, which clearly are not 4G devices.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 10:34

11. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


The 4S devices have the same theoretical speeds as 4g ones.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 10:54 2

13. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Yes, and theoretically, time travel is possible too, but that doesn't mean it will happen. Besides, even with an LTE radio, the processor in the 4S is behind many of the newer android processors.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 11:26

17. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


theoretically the U.S doesnt have 4G let's start there

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 12:22 1

22. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


I know US 4G doesn't meet the international standard for 4G. The fact remains, many processors in newer Android phones are faster than the one in the 4S. Doesn't matter if it's 3G, HSPA+(3.5G), or 4G LTE. It's just slower.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 12:41 1

24. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


it has been proven that the processor on the 4S is faster that the SGSII and that was the phone of the year. you can dispute that Androids has true multitasking or that have widgets flash etc... but on paper the 4S won..

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 13:15 1

26. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Because we should believe you on ANYTHING.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 14:08 1

28. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


to believe me is your choice.. but you have Google as your default search engine. use it

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 14:46 1

29. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


"On paper" doesn't really matter does it? Actual performance in use is where things should be determined better or worse. As a sports fan, I'm glad they do not rule winners and losers "on paper".

I've put my Rezound next to my gf's iPhone she got a couple months ago, and I don't see anything it does faster than my phone, internet or not.

posted on 15 Jun 2012, 16:27 1

31. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Gallito, thats not true.

They use identical processors. The A5/A5x and the Exynos are the same base CPU chip. The part that is faster is the PowerVR GPU found on the i4s compared to the SGS2's Mali-400. PowerVR is hands down the most powerful GPU series out right now.

Im going to get terminology into your head if its the last thing I do :)

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