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Nokia to break up with Samsung as supplier, too, as 'the firewall is as sturdy as a pile of kimchi'

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Nokia to break up with Samsung as supplier, too, as 'the firewall is as sturdy as a pile of kimchi'
After Apple, it might be time for Nokia to part with whatever Samsung-made parts it is using for its cell phones. The world's second-largest phone maker is tipped by an industry insider to try and break away from Samsung as components supplier due to potential conflicts of interest.

This is a business lingo for industrial espionage, it seems, as Nokia is straight-out concerned that information might leak from Samsung's conveyor belts to the higher-ups, indicating what handsets the company has in the pipeline, and, from the inventors of things like the PureView camera tech, the cause for concern is easy to explai.

The source stopped short of accusing Samsung of doing just that sort of peeping, as the Koreans have always claimed that there is a firewall between its components business and mobile device engineering department. Yet these things have proven time and time again to rarely materialize as intended - one only needs to remember the promised separation of investment banking and advisory activities contributing to the financial crisis, or in our field of interest - the promised total operational autonomy of Motorola inside Google, which, judging from the Project X phone rumors, has been already thrown out of the window. 

In fact, the industry insider noted amusingly enough that "the 'firewall' between component sales and smartphones [at Samsung] is about as sturdy as a pile of kimchi.

They also mentioned how Samsung has "a record of getting orders for next-gen components, then canceling the orders. And then they show up in a Samsung phone. When you see a Samsung (certain specialized new design for) OLED phone as you surely will, you are looking at something that was stolen from Nokia."

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posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:26 30

1. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)


Nokia and Apple can take a hike off a short bridge in your nearest city. Their smartphone solutions are useless in the tech game. Samsung doesn't need either of them that's for sure.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 09:52 19

73. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I'm in complete agreement. It's obvious that Nokia is jealous of Samsung's recent success. They want to hurt Sammy's bottom line by no longer buying their products, but that's a lame approach. There's a reason they originally chose Samsung. Go buy inferior screens from another company & see how your product turns out. Then, we'll see who has the last laugh. Besides, another company is just gonna line up to buy them anyway.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 11:35 7

97. htc_prep (Posts: 303; Member since: 09 Oct 2009)


Check facts: @g2a5b0e richardyarrell2011
The super LCD 2 screen on the HTC one series that is made by Sony gives Samsung and their oled screens a run for the money. as far as processors go the Snapdragon series is awesome, in fact if they are inferior, why did Samsung choose to implement them in last year samsung galaxy s2 minus the spring addition and this year Samsung Galaxy S 3 Series in the United States? Plus Nokia and something both make a phenomenal camera sensors. And Motorola is antenna is pretty much top of the line bar none.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:02 11

101. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Actually, the reason Samsung decided to use the dual-core Snapdragon in the S3 in the US was because LTE had not yet been integrated with the quad-core Exynos chip & it was pretty much a requisite that the phone have LTE here. Perhaps you should check your facts. Besides, Nokia doesn't buy camera sensors or antennas from Samsung, so those points are irrelevant.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:34 1

110. htc_prep (Posts: 303; Member since: 09 Oct 2009)


I understand why they went with Snapdragon here in United States, I know that fact well. I only stated the fact because if the snapdragon was "useless tech" why would Samsung use it instead of the other chip mnfrs broadcom, mediate, nvidia. But then again I wasn't speaking to you within that aspect. the only thing I was speaking directly to @g2a5b0e was the inferior screen argument. Everything else was in relation to ”useless tech solutions argument". So facts were checked well before I tossed my 2 cents in.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 14:04 2

119. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I wasn't trying to argue the merits of AMOLED screens versus LCD ones. If Nokia decides to go the LCD route, then that's perfectly fine if that's what they want. I just meant that they won't find a better AMOLED than the one Samsung makes.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:19 5

106. rd_nest (Posts: 1606; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


dude, you are retarded. that's a fact!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:31 5

107. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


The Lumia 920 being riddled with problems might be because of this transition.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 11:56 8

100. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


sounds like the truth hurts richard .....whats the matter samsung being a theif doesnt register in your mind?

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:34 3

109. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


So you are taking the word of a butt hurt Nokia insider(that makes a racist remark about Korean culture) at face value? Hate on!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 18:04 1

128. dynamo.one (Posts: 63; Member since: 14 Feb 2013)


all this sounds really weird..

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:27 15

2. nikenturd (unregistered)


Awww...bitter much Nokia?

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:28 26

3. nikenturd (unregistered)


The news reeks of envy and jealousy from Nokia and Apple

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 09:27 11

66. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Few years ago
Nokia: I'd like to order OLED screen from you sammy
Samsung: No problem :)

A little while later
Samsung: i am afraid that i have to cancel your orders
Nokia: Really? Thats too bad

Few years later. The present
Nokia to the public: Samsung has stolen our tech
= please give me some money so that i can buy our headquarter building back

The end

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 10:03 9

76. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Nökia is no match for SAMSUNG

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 11:16 18

95. Bappy (Posts: 25; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Other way around...
Samsung is no match for Nokia's hardware & innovation

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 11:19 6

96. hepresearch (unregistered)


Yeah, but... Mr. Elop say hello... Nokia fall down go BOOM.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 18:12 1

129. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Nokia is dead, just like Apple, and soon Wp8 will to™

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 00:59

140. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


hahaha u are so not gonna believe that for like 2 years now wp7 or 8 has not seen any decline in market share slow rise but still rise so u can bash all you want this rise mean its not failing its simple stats although u can fantasize anything

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 04:10

144. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)


@Troll, stop trolling around, and yeah get a life

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 13:40

153. hepresearch (unregistered)


I don't think Google's Android needs to be THE one-and-only one-world mobile OS solution. I still like to see a variety of choices out in the open.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 18:00 2

125. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


"Samsung is no match for Nokia's hardware & innovation"

The article says Nokia had to order their awesome hardware from sammy but sammy canceled the order so Nokia couldnt make any s**t?

To sum up
Nokia has the best hardware which they can't make it
lol

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:30 28

4. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


really??
AMOLEDs are stolen from Nokia?
why they mention it so late? whats going on with you Nokia? don't let apple affect you.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:37 25

9. Yeahman (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


Via AppleInsider... how surprising.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:45 14

12. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


if this game begins this is Nokia itself who will caught in trouble because their situation is not good in market and this can be the cause for their great downfall. they must forget about these bullsh!ts and continue their job.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:10 10

22. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


Stop worrying about Nokia, Nokia will be just fine. Nokia is making a very smart move here in fact Samsung is not the only manufacturer of parts!! Its strictly a smart business move on Nokia's part.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:00 8

38. sonyisdead (banned) (Posts: 30; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


A smart move by cutting off a major supplier? Real smart. Apple decided to do that too and look at the disgusting quality control problems they have now. Not to mention the eroding profit margins as well.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 12:05 2

102. techtruth (Posts: 30; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)


elop and wp are the main causes of nokia's fall.. and now this

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 06:44 8

11. alterecho (Posts: 1098; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Thats new to me too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED . Interesting read there. Especially the mention of SLCD being developed as joint venture between Samsung and Sony.

I suspected Samsung from long ago though. But i thought Nokia and Samsung where friendly. One needs to look into the fact that most Nokia accessories are cross compatible with Samsung phones. The Nokia earphones work only on Nokia phones and some Samsung models. They even list Samsung models in the list of compatible devices. But then again, in the field of business you have to cautious, i guess.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 07:08 7

21. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


Believe me there is more to this andyes Nokia and Samsung were close industry allies, up until recently. Nokia has to now severe ties with Samsung because of some suspect behaviour by Samsung. Everything will come to light very soon. Needless to say the Apple, debacle forced Nokia to Reevaluate its credentials.

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