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Nokia chairman says it has a contingency plan in case Windows Phone 8 fails

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Nokia chairman says it has a contingency plan in case Windows Phone 8 fails
Around this time last year, Stephen Elop made it very clear Nokia was all in with Windows Phone by saying there was no Plan B. He said, “Plan B is to make sure Plan A is very successful.” Either things have changed in the last year, or Elop is not privileged enough to know about super secret Plan B.

On an appearance on a Finland-based TV show, Nokia chairman Risto Siilasmaa said that Nokia does, in fact, have a contingency plan in the event that Windows Phone 8 powered products doesn’t meet sales expectations. Siilasmaa, who has only been in position since May, went on to say that he was sure Windows Phone 8 would be a success, which is obviously a bit of a contradiction.

Unfortunately, Siilasmaa did not comment on what Plan B is, but when asked about the initial decision to switch to Windows Phone, he said, “Symbian’s market share has come down close to zero.” Based on that, we think it’s pretty safe to say Nokia is beyond the point of no return when it comes to it considering Symbian its bread and butter.

Could we ever see lines of Android powered Nokia device? We guess anything is possible in the event of a catastrophic failure of Windows Phone, but it seems that Nokia is quite committed to making Windows Phone work in the long haul.

source: YLE.fi via Neowin

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posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:05 8

1. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


Plan B. Selling the company
because before nokia say, no more linux OS

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:43 3

20. windowsRocks (Posts: 149; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


Is it going back to symbian?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:06 10

35. maverick786us (Posts: 117; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)


Hope they go for MeeGo

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 12:47 1

55. rodex (Posts: 22; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Yupp.. Hope so too..

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:06 19

2. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


My god, i would pay massive amounts of money to have an Android powered Nokia device. Sad to see such a great company use an weaker OS (windowsjavascript:;)

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:05 17

11. tuminatr (Posts: 679; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)


exactly why not support both. Nokia does make good hardware

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:08 16

14. dickwyn (Posts: 586; Member since: 07 May 2012)


That wont happen as long as elop is there

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:04 10

28. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5620; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


What makes you think that Elop will be working at Nokia if W8 is a massive fail?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:17 8

17. pegasso (Posts: 137; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)


agree.
Nokia should make an android powered phones.
it's the safest move for Nokia if they really want to save their company.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:48 2

32. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


Android had very fewer chances as a backup, because backup should be available immideatly.
I think its maemo based with QT support, afterall its like a Linux desktop in mobile or a Nokia air type concept.
Either way now WP8 had far fewer chances to fail. literlaly its a windows 8 in mobile.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 04:07

50. DIYguy (Posts: 190; Member since: 27 Feb 2011)


Umm if you don't like java why do you like android...? Android is written in java, it's a bulky stupid language and makes things slow...

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 08:38

53. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


i didnt add (windowsjavascript:;) to my comment. Somehow it got edited in.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:15 15

3. mercorp (Posts: 967; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


Please make it An android pureview!

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:48 6

6. 14545 (Posts: 1101; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Seriously. I actually like the looks of their phones, and that camera seems AMAZING. I would gladly buy one with android and LTE.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:04 11

10. dickwyn (Posts: 586; Member since: 07 May 2012)


Plan B Dump WP and Go android

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 12:49 1

56. rodex (Posts: 22; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


they probably have a better bet with Meego instead of Android, its their own OS...

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 14:57 1

59. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


they have no outside support, app development, higher costs from doing it all themselves, and no public demand for Meego. It would be a complete flop.
you guys need to let go of symbian and meego. they are dead.

Plan B is simple.. its either 1 of 2 things.
1) Sell themselves to Microsoft like Moto and Google.
or
2) Start building high end android phones.

Come on.. who wouldnt want a pureview camera with a 4.3+inch HD screen and high end hardware? I could definitely go for that.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:30 15

4. DePenguin (Posts: 22; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)


Nokia just needs to adopt android. Their hardware is beautiful enough to sell.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:36 4

5. Mube1 (Posts: 153; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Nokia u should make hd screens ist

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:51 12

7. snowgator (Posts: 3200; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


WP 8 has no reason not to be a success. But, Nokia has no reason not to have a second plan in place.

I have been saying for months moving to Android is always an option.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:42

44. AhmadAlsayegh (Posts: 253; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)


I see Android not to be an option, the market is really contended there, if someone would run Porter's 5 forces analysis, they would find Android not to be a very unattractive market.

If anyone wants me to write a brief about the above, i would be happy to do that.

otherwise, here is a useful link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_five_forces_analysis

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:53 6

8. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 914; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Plan B
start a developing new OS with intel based on linux and continue the n9 legacy

but lets be honest here WP 8 doesn't look like it's about to fail

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:06 4

12. dickwyn (Posts: 586; Member since: 07 May 2012)


makes quite good sense, WP8 failing rate is quite low

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:16 7

15. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


like tizen OS.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:46 2

22. 12Danny12 (Posts: 20; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


Yea I agree wp8 is gonna be a success on becoming The third most used os in the us. I can see wp8 failure to be quite low because all the carrier support and the enterprise integration between and a of and a wp . adopting android and wp is basically fine by me. But don't count wp out yet.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:48 1

23. 12Danny12 (Posts: 20; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


Yea I agree wp8 is gonna be a success on becoming The third most used os in the us. I can see wp8 failure to be quite low because all the carrier support and the enterprise integration between and a pc and a wp . adopting android and wp is basically fine by me. But don't count wp out yet.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:54 9

9. Johnnokia (Posts: 493; Member since: 27 May 2012)


I respect windows phone, Android and even Symbian, but I adore Nokia and wish them to come back to the top. They truly have the best hardware.
Please Nokia adopt Android besides WP and you will see that no one will care about Samsung, HTC, LG .. etc.
I even guess that few will care about Iphone if there will be Nokia Android or WP pureview with huge screen resolution and quad -core or Hexa core.

JUST DO IT, and you will see your market share will overtake all other phone's manufacturers.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:01 5

27. lsutigers (Posts: 713; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)


I think Nokia is a great company, similar to HTC on the Android side. Not the biggest player (Samsung) but one that builds quality phones with good software and seems to care about their customers.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:07 4

13. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 847; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


DROID!!! I used to be completely against this... until I actually had a few Android phones. Unless WP8 comes a long way, it still can't provide the feature rich environment that Symbian can. Android can cover almost all of those bases though, except for the clock screen saver, which I haven't been able to find a good app for. Nevertheless, Droid is the closest thing to Symbian out there. It's battery life sucks, and nobody makes a great camera for any of the Android phones, so if this was Nokia's Plan B, I would be totally cool with that.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:48 3

31. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)


well if Nokia goes android, they can skin the UI and boom, your screensaver clock will be there

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:16 3

16. Aeires (unregistered)


Plan B: start peeing your pants to stay warm because Android does sell.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:18 3

18. bubbadoes (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 May 2012)


Jellybean

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:20 5

19. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I hate to be overly obvious but wouldn't any company of that size have a plan b anyway as its smart business sense? Who would not? Seriously.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:44 6

21. tarozeero (Posts: 16; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


Nokia adopting Android will most likely save their company.

But at the same time, they'll be adopting a hideous and messy looking OS which can NEVER give the awesome user experience WP8 can.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:49 6

24. rigorimpossible (Posts: 22; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


as long as elop is on top, linux is a no no for nokia. maybe nokia should kick out elop. asap.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:51 3

25. 12Danny12 (Posts: 20; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


I find it unlikely they would do that. Wp8 is basically fine. For people. It's already starting to interest people even without the somsumer features being shown

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:42 2

37. kanagadeepan (Posts: 643; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Can you remember, the same was said about WP7 intro... But what is its position now????

Further SINGLE-TASKING WP8 is NOT Win8, but just a MetroUI, imho...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:51 3

26. 12Danny12 (Posts: 20; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


I find it unlikely they would do that. Wp8 is basically fine. For people. It's already starting to interest people even without the comsumer features being shown

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:21 5

30. jack1059 (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)


D$%^m straight. That guy has made the dumbest decisions from day one. And wiped out nokia's market share and profits. From roughly 35% market share to what 4% under elops watch. Stock price - tanked. And he still has a job? The nokia board is dumber than I thought. And no you cant blame it on symbian sales dropping. Worldwide it was declining sure. But under elop it simply went into freefall. The mans either working for MS still or an idiot. Neither one of those is a good option. Get rid of him.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:36

42. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


but even we hate elop, this chairman support him... got to the source and read it...

iif they just pay more attention to symbian before and make it more futuristic... it might sitll be the top OS!

or they should go to there maemo!

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:13 4

29. jack1059 (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)


Nokia had its own OS and the largest install base worldwide only a year and a half ago. Worldwide, not US. So for nokia to succeed it needs to ditch the 'partnership' with MS and go back to its own OS / ecosystem. The original transition plan with QT from symbian to meego was solid. Getting that back is about the only way they can survive without turning into 'just another handset manufacturer'. Every handset manufacturer big enough to do so moves into its own OS / ecosystem. For nokia to give that up for wp or android is simply foolish. Elop may have successfully destroyed enough of the company to prevent that though. Which really was the plan all along.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:41 1

43. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


but they are actually falling not failing now in worldwide! because what is the trend in US,other contries will just follow! thats why nokia ditched symbian and meego qand go for WP!

but i really agree with you! if nokia just continue the support on symbian and meego! and make it more advance and lure those developer to there system, they could really gonna be a hit again!

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 09:41 1

54. disneydad (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)


The problem was Nokia didn't realize what they had with Symbian. If they had developed it more quickly when the iPhone came out they would most likely have been in a better position. They never pushed for the expansion in their Symbian developer community. I don't think Apple would have gained as much ground if Nokia had polished Symbian and marketed the superior hardware.
I wish I could remember the source but a few years back before Android was in the market there was an interview done with a Nokia USA rep concerning the presence of the Ovi Store and why it wasn't touted in the way the App Store was. The rep said that Nokia preferred to let the Ovi Store to grow organically and they had no plans to advertise it.
This leads me to believe that Nokia was caught flat footed in the explosion of smartphones and competition within that market. They enjoyed very healthy margins on their feature phones and had a good reputation with them. Somewhat like RIM, they had made decisions in their minds as to what consumers wanted in a phone.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:49 3

33. lintek (Posts: 8; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


..i see, so that's why there are experiments on nokia smartphones with android os LOL!

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:05 3

34. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


come on nokia you are the best and i know you will succeed

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:15 3

36. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Plan B is MS buying Nokia straight out. And please don't mistake article saying if wp8 fails. They meant to say if Nokia fails. They will fail if they fragment their products. Meaning certain models are only available to certain carriers or not at all! For example, the US Lumia 900 and 710.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:58 1

38. steelicon (Posts: 309; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


The Emperor's New Clothes : WP7.5 skinned to WP8.

Let Nokia have a crack at Android and integrate it with Symbian and MeeGo features.

Who knows, maybe in the hands of Nokia, Android will find some enhancements and improvements, one that could well complete Android.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 00:31 2

39. Chiddu (Posts: 22; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


Nokia should:
1. Leave windows phones right now.
2. Adopt Android
3. Make huge changes to Android UI, and make it easier as Symbian.
4. Nokia should use latest hardware i.e. processors.

OR

2. Improve Symbian
3. Increase the no. of developers.
4. The same as above. Symbian is still on single core and runs good, how well it could run if it is made to run on latest S4 processor.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 14:14 1

57. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


I've yet to try Symbian, although i hear good things. I would LOVE to have a Android powered Nokia device.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 00:34 3

40. sajith930 (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)


go for Meego.....it only nokia survival ............

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:31 1

41. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


revive MeeGo and Maemo, combine the codes that people love in symbian!

the power of linux is really great!

WP8 is not going to fail... MS has a deep pocket so they can handle the marketing! just make your WP devices stand out against samsung,huawei,and htc...

or revive symbian and make it more futuristic!!!!

but i still bety on meego/maemo!

android.... start with jellybean! :)

but i think they will hava a problem with android since apple is always there to block them and the last time i check, nokia and MS supported apple against android in terms of copyright...

only small to impossible possibility that nokia will go to android...

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:07

45. kainy (Posts: 165; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)


Everyone are for Nokia to go and make Android handsets ... but did you considered what if these sales fail? If they don't meet their numbers Nokia is history, but what happens when they joined Microsoft? FUNDS ... Nokia can't fail because no matter what MS are funding them, therefore they cannot bankrupt and that's pretty obvious reason despite that they have NO competition in terms of selling WP phones and when WP8 becomes a hit ... they will be on top and thats their plan... if WP8 is not a hit, well Android is an option but there wont be enough money to do something awesome and we all know it....

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:07

46. rn9215 (Posts: 45; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


High time for nokia androids.Lets hope that windows phone 8 fails.....so that nokia makes android phones lol!

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:36 1

47. qwertypoor (Posts: 72; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


Did anyone really think they wouldn't have some sort of contingency plan they aren't going to be just making windows forever

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:36

48. qwertypoor (Posts: 72; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


Did anyone really think they wouldn't have some sort of contingency plan they aren't going to be just making windows forever

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:37

49. qwertypoor (Posts: 72; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


Did anyone really think they wouldn't have some sort of contingency plan they aren't going to be just making windows forever

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 04:17 3

51. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Always loved Nokias (first phone was the 5110 aka "the brick") and currently in love with wp, so i hope both succed, if not i pray to god they avoid the android pit of death...

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 05:18 3

52. jtech (Posts: 101; Member since: 14 Jul 2011)


Nokia will be a success and so will WP8, but in a unlikely event where something bad happends, I hope Nokia doesn't go the way of junkdroid. It would just be one of the many handset makers making a weaker crappy os compared to symbian, meego, maemo and wp

posted on 03 Jul 2012, 14:30 1

58. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6267; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


If they move on to Android Then i will buy their phones

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