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Nokia 808 PureView is a camera engineering marvel - are you getting one?

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Nokia 808 PureView is a camera engineering marvel - are you getting one?
We've been hearing about a 30-40MP camera sensor lurking in Nokia's R&D labs for a good while now, but thought it to be one of those playful concepts that never see the light of day. It took Nokia switching from Symbian to Windows Phone and taking a nosedive in share price during that restructuring, for it to feel the urge to speed the development up and come up with a "wow" factor.

And "wow" it is - there is no arguing that the Nokia 808 PureView will be the most sophisticated cameraphone out there, but with 41MP sensor at the gigantic for a phone 1/1.2" surface, and simplified lens crafted with record precision, we are nearing DSLR territory. The photography blogs are already abuzz with the silent lossless zoom, pixel oversampling and low-light capabilities of this sensor, which can rival a lot less compact devices. By going for lossless zoom without optics to add bulk, distort the frame and introduce noise while filming, Nokia has managed to make the module in the 808 PureView 50-70% smaller than a conventional optical zoom solution, allowing it to fit the PureView Pro technology into a phone.

Nokia 808 PureView is a camera engineering marvel - are you getting one?

This is all for the photography buffs out there, though, and there are a lot of them, so you can feast on all the glory details about the engineering marvel that is the Nokia 808 PureView sensor in its short but concise white paper, or our own summary

What we are interested in is whether you are intrigued by Nokia's bombshell device as a phone, and if you are planning to get one the day it comes out, or are already distracted by something else. Checkmark our little poll and sound off in the comments below.

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Nokia 808 PureView is a camera engineering marvel - are you getting one?
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495 votes
(495 votes) I'm so getting this on the day it comes out!
11.37%
164 votes
(164 votes) I might get one as a second phone for when I go on vacation/concert/kiddies birthday
23.37%
337 votes
(337 votes) It's a great cameraphone and all, but I'll wait until it is a Nokia Windows Phone
30.93%
446 votes
(446 votes) My smartphone camera is good enough, I'd rather have the apps

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posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:04 4

1. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 860; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


Doubt we'll see everything this phone has to offer, running Windows Phone by the end of the year. Not a big fan of the design either. Would love to see another N8 looking phone with a bigger 4.3" display on it plus all this has to offer. HDMI is still something we've yet to see on WP so hopefully since Apollo allows for microSD expansion, it will allow for HDMI as well. It's crazy how immature WP still is in so many respects.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 16:31 5

15. shafboy (Posts: 179; Member since: 26 Sep 2010)


Even though this phone isn't actually that great of a phone, it is the thing at the back that it's designed for. It may change the future of camera's, at least for a certain line of phones. Either way it is a great technology.

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 07:03 2

49. gevvyd (Posts: 13; Member since: 17 Feb 2010)


and a higher resolultion!

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:05 10

2. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


there should have been a "i take pictures with my camera not my phone" option.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 15:05 7

9. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


Amen to this, frankly I don't really see the need for camera on smartphone to exceed 12MP.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 17:34 2

20. -RVM- (Posts: 329; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Well, the camera on Nokia 808 is supposed to make 5 or 8 MPx photos. So why there's 41 MPx sensor ?http://europe.nokia.com/PRODUCT_METADATA_0/Products/Phones/8000-series/808/Nokia808PureView_Whitepaper.pdf

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 00:07 3

43. eiyoy009 (Posts: 57; Member since: 01 Jun 2011)


whatever everyone is saying...for me this is a best camera and a phone for me...

i don't want to have a camera and a phone in both side of my hand...i want ALL-IN-ONE gadget.. PERFECT!!!

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 17:32 6

19. -RVM- (Posts: 329; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


yea, because it's easier to walk around with much heavier camera around your neck 24h.... wake up dude, most people don't have their cameras with themselves 95% of their time.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 18:27 2

24. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


no sh!t. a camera phone usually works in a pinch.

but "wake up dude," they do not compare to real cameras. most people do not want a phone that is 95% camera either. the 808 is a niche phone. ill take my g2x and my dslr over the 808 anyday.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 18:26 3

23. shafboy (Posts: 179; Member since: 26 Sep 2010)


True, but wouldn't it be great for photographers to have both in one?

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 18:31 2

25. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


if two could exist in one than having two would be pointless. the limitations of belle are numerous, and a DSLR still trumps the 808.

not saying that photographers dont/wont use both. just that a photo nut is going to haul around their gear anyway and might pic up the 808 to fill in the gap when not hauling.

i like the 808's camera. but im not going to sacrifice android for it. and i dont see any camera phone replacing my dslr in the near future.

the 808 might be the best camera-phone. but by becoming that it is neither going to be the best camera or the best phone, just the best compilation.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 18:41 2

27. andro. (Posts: 1960; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


It'll sell to a niche group. The N8 which sold well by 'nokias' sales standards but poorly in the global comparison scale and from returns we had instore it was not without a fair few software and hardware problems most notably freezing and self charging till the battery died quickly without actually being connected to a charger.

Don't get me wrong I had an N8 and loved the cameras photos but it too was a fairly limited phone,the os is dated and the browser was only ok at best incomparison to other smartphone browsers,facebook apps wouldn't open half people status updates,links or photos.

Most people certainly wouldn't sacrifice 400 bucks or a bill upgrade for 2 years for the sake of the camera. No professional photographers would swap an dslr for this 41mp camera either as zoom functions and optical zooms for instance are very limited in the 808

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 18:49 3

28. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Nailgun!

i mean.

Nailed It!

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 19:30 1

31. quakan (Posts: 1199; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


How come you didn't just edit what you said and just said "Nailed It!" instead you realized your error, left it there, and showed what you meant to say? Not trying to be a douche but that just stood out to me when scrolling down.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 21:51 3

36. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


The whole thing is a phrase from wkuk. The whole statement is a reference including the I mean. Sorry, I guess it isn't as universal as I thought.

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 06:01 1

45. quakan (Posts: 1199; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


Oh, never heard of it. lol

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 19:18 4

29. thatdude1 (unregistered)


Andro, have you ever tried Belle on Nokia hardware? I would wager that you have not. It's really good. Its definitely is not dated. This phone will definitely sell well where Symbian is strong, and will do better than average in places that Symbian is not so strong. You clearly don't like anything other than Android, which is fine, so why bother wasting your time commenting on anything other than Android?

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 19:42 2

32. andro. (Posts: 1960; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Its a wager you'd have lost,my n8 when i had it was on Anna and my N700 when i had it was on Belle,its handy working in the phone industry as lots of manufacturers give you phones to mess around with it! ;-)

Anna was an improvement in software but still dated,belle is better but merely was so because it brings in pull down task bar features ala android style and a few tweaks. Mostly the improvements were cosmetic in nature. I do infact prefer belle to windows and sales wise we have definitely sold more nokia symbian phones than windows.

Still both are really show their level in the industry by the sales figures they have ended up on. Nokias best phones ultimately are its features phones which have prolific sales and zero trouble. They are the very life of nokias sales figures year in year out and will continue to be so

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 22:54 2

40. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


Belle was not just cosmetic changes. It was the whole system written from the ground up using the new qt engine. Brought large improvements in operation and use of system resources. I'll point out one that i expect you'll understand. With Anna, it was common to run out of RAM especially using opera mobile with lots of pages open. With Belle, that has never happen, even with more than 10 apps running, several pages open in opera mobile, and thats a phone with only 256MB RAM.

But ofcourse, you'd know this if you had ever used the phone

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 22:46 1

38. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


see you actually talk like someone that never used the phone but seemingly knows all about it. HATER.

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 06:35

48. andro. (Posts: 1960; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


You've obviously not read any of the comments as i stated i actually had a nokia n8 and n700 for a while and currently a lumia,which i don't use as its not great

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 06:12 1

47. karanstyle (Posts: 188; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I feel so sorry for you but I too had one but Nokia N8 is way better than any Android or iOS phone in terms of Battery & Camera!
Pls. Search more to know more!

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 11:00

50. andro. (Posts: 1960; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Battery and camera were better yes,thats about it. i only used my nokia n8 for camera only as the rest ended up frustrating due to limitations and better alternatives readily available to me

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 11:21 1

51. karanstyle (Posts: 188; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


May I know what kinda restrictions??
You ppl just have to downgrade the name of Symbian for the sake of "I dunno what"?

Anyways, I'm waiting for Apple's next fake revolutionary phone with 16Mpx(and sell it with some stupid tag line and say for just 800$ + Some crappy app about "Steve Jobs" with the name "Steve Pop").

I'm not so good at bulls**tting like Apple :-P

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 06:10 1

46. karanstyle (Posts: 188; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Ummm stop comparing Crapsung's SGS2 with NOKIA's Pure view 808.

Oops! I meant Sam-sung not CRAP-Sung ;-)
(a useless 8MPx of SGS2+SGS3)

Admit the power of Symbian on just 1.3Ghz Single core processor and very petty amount of RAM running a huge camera where Android tin bot would just be hung up with eyes wide open.

And yes as far as Samflung(oops again :-P ) read this:
"Samsung's Executive says Samsung is not doing well @MWC" ~ LINK -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-not-doing-very-well-in-tablets-says-company-executive_id27445

So, just stop negating and admit the facts.!! :-D

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 00:05 1

42. eiyoy009 (Posts: 57; Member since: 01 Jun 2011)


then wish that your phone have nothing camera on it...freak!!

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:09 4

3. Mozarrt (Posts: 295; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)


Do I really need one?

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:24 3

4. andro. (Posts: 1960; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Its gonna be like the n8,a fantastic camera but nobody wanting the mediocre phone. The N8 camera was the best camera ive ever used. Unfortunately most of the people who bought an n8 was for the camera itself rather than the phone.

The 41mp camera here will be wasted on an os that nobody wants and nobody buys in windows phone.

There will be some other very capable shooters on very popular and very top level smartphones this year on platforms much more capable than windows

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:49 5

5. drahmad (Posts: 478; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


take it easy kiddie. don't try to out perform analysts. you are not.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:49 6

6. thatdude1 (unregistered)


Gotta disagree with you there, andro. I happen to own a Nokia N8 and it's a fantastic smartphone, and not just because of the camera. The N8 was a hit for Nokia, hence the follow up in the 808 pureview. The OS on the phone(Symbian/Nokia Belle)is a joy to use and is a powerful one at that. And the 808 will be running Belle out the gate, not Windows. This phone is destined, at the very least, to be every bit as popular as the N8.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:56 5

8. Penny (Posts: 1192; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@ andro.

The phone is being released with Symbian Belle, not Windows Phone. And despite the fact that you clearly have something against Windows Phone 7 (as evidenced by almost every one of your posts in WP7 related articles), it is a good operating system.

Choice is a good thing, and companies innovating for the platform you may not like will still benefit you in the long run, so don't be so hateful toward them.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 16:47 5

16. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


Just because you dont like the OS doesn't mean nobody wants it, just shows how immature you are. Try it out and you may actually realise its not as bad as it has been painted out to be.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 17:43 3

22. m.garz (Posts: 61; Member since: 08 Oct 2010)


bet you haven't tried Belle

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 14:50 5

7. Penny (Posts: 1192; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Lol @ the last option in the poll. Very trollish choice there to end it with the comment about apps. How about just leaving the option at "My smartphone camera is good enough, so I'm not going to change phones for it?"

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 19:20 2

30. thatdude1 (unregistered)


Totally agree with you, @penny. Very trollish indeed.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 15:15 7

10. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)


Finally I can have what I was waiting for my entire life!!! N8 made my dream come true for the most part, but this one is unbelievable. It's a true marvel of technology, and only Nokia could have done it!!!

I don't see why people are unhappy with Symbian OS. It's a pretty good OS, much more efficient than iOS and Android, which is why N8 with 680MHz processor and 256MB ram has an unbelievably amazing performance (despite my initial doubts). Plus it's a very stable OS. I have never seen it crashing so far despite the fact that I torture it quite a bit on a regular basis.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 18:36 1

26. RamyAbdelbadea (Posts: 17; Member since: 07 Nov 2011)


you must be kidding !!! i am with nokia since old times but can't say that Symbian is comperable to IOS Or Android !!! NO way sir ..
they even kill the memo and mego which was a really good OS if they support it !!

posted on 29 Feb 2012, 13:38

53. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)


Just put iOS or Android on a device with 680MHz cpu and 256MB ram, and you will see why Symbian is better. Even Satio with 600MHz cpu and the ancient S60 has a brilliant performance. Everyday I amaze my Android and iOS friends with my N8 and Satio.

There may not be as many apps for Symbian as there is for Android and iOS, but the Symbian OS on its own is very capable.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 15:19 3

11. -box- (Posts: 3820; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I'll get it the day it comes out if it's subsidized on T-Mobile US, otherwise I'll have to get the unlocked international version. Here I was about ready to buy a used N8, glad I waited.

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 11:28 2

52. karanstyle (Posts: 188; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Even I'm waiting for the day it arrives in stores. I'm so buying this Device because Anna > Belle > Carla > Donna.

Infact,
SYMBIAN HAVE SEXY WOMEN AS THERE OS NAME,
WHEREAS ANDROID IS TOO CALORIFIC TO USE :-P

LOLZ!! ;-)

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 15:19 1

12. MNX1024 (Posts: 13; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


I don't know, this phone is extremely tempting, but the amount they're probably charging can get me a decent lens. I do own DSLR's, so yeah.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 15:57 2

13. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1299; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


41 MP might be a little too much. Since it's an amazing camera phone, it better be water proof, sand proof, shake proof and everything proof. Otherwise, I drop my phone too often as it is. I know I would break that camera easily. Now they need to cramp 1 TB hard drive in that baby to store all that super high quality pictures.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 17:36 1

21. -RVM- (Posts: 329; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


There's a reason why it is 41 MP dude :)http://europe.nokia.com/PRODUCT_METADATA_0/Products/Phones/8000-series/808/Nokia808PureView_Whitepaper.pdf

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 16:26 5

14. christianqwerty (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 May 2011)


White iPhone 4s for sale! Willing to trade for a Nokia pure view lol . The camera is one of the most important thing on a phone for me. Second is battery life

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 16:51 5

17. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


Why do all of keep saying 41MP is too much? Have you actually tried to find out the reason they are using the 41MP in the first place? Personally the ability of zooming into what ever i am capturing is really something to love. And in the fact that you get better low light performance. Seriously, anybody that uses their phone camera heavily will want these qualities.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 16:53 3

18. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


Lets just hope nokia dont treat this one like they did the N9 with limited LIMITED release.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 19:51

33. Mr.Best (Posts: 79; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)


I fail to see Nokia's logic here. Why oh why would you put such a magnificent camera phone on such a dated operating system? I mean the Lumia is such a great phone yet they do this...

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 21:06 1

34. bon87 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


cos windows aint yet optimized for such high camera performance and symbian is. They'll soon use the same technology with Apollo hopefully but i don expect the same 41MP sensor.

posted on 28 Feb 2012, 02:24 1

44. Mr.Best (Posts: 79; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)


Makes sense. Thanks a mil.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 21:45 5

35. bon87 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Why is there so much hate here towards pureview 808? Is it cos its a Nokia? Or is it cos its Symbian..or both? You ppl all hate Nokia cos you know it was once a king and it can take back the throne if it really tries and you ppl are eager not to let that happen cos the brand you support will be down the drain wen that happens..And regarding symbian, i agree its a dead platform, but so wat? it still does well wat its supposed to do and does it better than any other fone out there wen u just compare fones with similar hardware. and no i'm not a troll or a fanboy, i'm just in awe of the technology nokia has developed. 'm using samsung omnia w, so 'm neither a nokia fan nor a symbian fan. there are some things that are facts and there's no denying it..Nokia is a great company and symbian is a good os, not an awesome one like ios or wp, but still good..

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 22:16 1

37. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


its because we are all jaded @ssholes.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 23:01 1

41. chapizzo (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)


When this camera finally gets to windows phone 2 years later, they'll call it the best tech ever.

posted on 27 Feb 2012, 22:53 2

39. bbblader (Posts: 580; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


one more poll: i got a phone 2 months ago so ill wait for 1 year :(

posted on 03 Mar 2012, 06:28

54. Meghu (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


Wow, its great news nokia launch 41mp camera along with 16 GB memory storage and 4 inch screen with 360 by 640, price is also reasonable.http://www.howbler.com/2012/03/nokia-808-pureview-41-megapixel-camera.html

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