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Microsoft disses Facebook Home, says the effort is circa Windows Phone in 2011

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Microsoft disses Facebook Home, says the effort is circa Windows Phone in 2011
Microsoft's exec Frank X. Shaw took to the company's official blog to comment on the underwhelming announcement of Facebook Home, essentially an Android launcher, and HTC First, the initial phone that will show up with it, barring the already leaked ways to sideload it.

Basically the man says that the people-centric mantra of the Facebook Home presentation reminds him of the Windows Phone interface development process, and an idea that already existed way back in 2011, when WP 7.5 got introduced to the world. Looking at the promo video below, there are some parallels to be drawn.


Moreover, Frank X. Shaw mentions that Facebook is actually adding another layer on top of what is already a ragtag platform he says, instead of fusing social networking, email and phone contacts in a simple People Hub, apparently the way WP is doing it. Here's a money quote from the rant:


So, we understand why Facebook would want to find a way to bring similar functionality to a platform that is sadly lacking it.

But as Android owners know, that platform is complicated enough without adding another skin built around another metaphor, on top of what is already a custom variant of the OS.

So, while we applaud Facebook for working to give some Android owners a taste of what a “people-centric” phone can be like, we’d humbly like to suggest that you get the real thing, and simply upgrade to a Windows Phone.

When you get your Windows Phone, simply log into your Facebook account (along with Twitter, Skype, LinkedIn and Gmail) and pin your best friends and family to your start screen, and we promise you’ll be feeling even more at “home”.

The whole thing is titled "Welcome to the People Party," and, yes, that's apparently Windows Phone, at least according to Microsoft's exec.

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posted on 08 Apr 2013, 08:52 9

1. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


LOL Windows Phone 7.5. xD

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 10:01 13

11. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Somehow I agree with Frank X. I don't want crappy pictures of random 'friends' from Facebook showing up in fullscreen. Just some real ones.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 10:33 3

14. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Hahaha.....I agree with Frank.X too!

I'm just shocked that they still mention about WP 7.5.......Geez, that's old!

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:48 3

23. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


lol thats the point he meant that its prety Ancient feature they copied

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 13:58 1

34. sbw44 (Posts: 404; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)


The same way how most Android phones run on gingerbread? or cheap phones on ICS/JB but with low end specs making them lag as sh*t?

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 20:14

47. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Sorry to burst your bubble, but comparing Windows Phones with Android phones doesn't match at all, just look at the Windows Marketplace and the Google Play Store, you will see the difference...........

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 10:02 3

12. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


But hey, does Microsoft really want Facebook's Instagram in their Windows phones..? oh oh..

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 10:33

15. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Microsoft : One word, NO!

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:49 2

24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


apperently someone uploaded the workaround app for instagram thigne paid version

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 12:04

28. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Who, Facebook? :P

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 13:09 1

31. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


nah i didnt got details but i saw the headline on PA somewhere today

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 08:53 4

2. techguy22 (Posts: 227; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


lol irrelevant OS..

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 09:02 6

3. boosook (Posts: 1080; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


LOL! You can do pretty much the same and even more with a standard android phone, I guess that Frank Shaw never used one. Not to mention the various FB integrations that many OEMs made, like Facebook inside Xperia (by Sony) and others.
But besides this, MS is simply scared that FB Home will draw even more users to Android, so they're trying to tell users that FB Home is nothing new and that you can achieve the same level of integration with WP, which of course, regardless if you like FB Home or not, is simply a lie.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 10:05

13. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Facebook inside Xperia used to be awesome. Now I can't synch my Facebook photos to my Xperia play. Well probably the outdated OS but hey, it's the closest to console gaming there is..

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:47

22. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


MS is saying keep copy_ING thing to Android cuz it sucks without it if u ignore the apps count for a second :P

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 09:06 13

4. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


this articles makes me laugh because he isnt bashing it is actullay 100% true whatever he said People Hub is the most advanced social integration Hub on any moblie OS yet on market android IOS is no way close in that matter and these words are of a Android and Iphne user to me . this is the first reson i ever bought Lumia800 last year.

Now please dont bash me with apps count and spec trolling cuz they dont count here

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 09:31 11

6. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


WHat this guy said was true, i watched some of the videos regarding FB Home and i thought the same thing, pretty similar to the social integration aspect of window phone.

Oh, look, fandroids who were even bashing this Facebook phone and Facebook Home as being pointless will now defend it and bash windows phone instead. So many hypocrites.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:42

20. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


LOL on fandroids @_@ if they start to defend now

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 12:01 1

27. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


i dont mind anyone being a fan of something, everyone have something they prefer, but changing their attitude suddenly (from criticizing facebook home, to defending it now because someone from microsoft said the idea is not new) and going back on what they said earlier shows that they are just blindly hating on other platforms.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 13:11

32. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


i agree fanboy is not bad idea either just getting obsessed and flaming is bad thing

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 14:04

35. sbw44 (Posts: 404; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)


Android fanboys are the new iphone fanboys of old! Mindless and Stupid!

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 16:58

39. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


and they seems to never growup when it comes to hate others

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 17:56 1

41. talon95 (Posts: 67; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


Speak for yourself. People who think there are no other options or that there should only be one option might be mindless and stupid. Fandroids are about freedom to choose, which is anything but mindless and nothing like the iFans of present. It's like comparing China and America and saying it's stupid that Americans are excited about their freedom and think other should enjoy the same options. But China is a cool country in many ways also, so like haseebzahid said, be a fan not a flame and keep your stupidity to yourself.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 18:26 1

43. sbw44 (Posts: 404; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)


So what you saying is here is no people on here mindlessly being everything pro Google/Android? Wow!

Also I am not a flame, I just say what I see and that is that most Android fans here can't accept it when they are second at something,being sued, or being told negatively like in this thread.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 18:28 1

44. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Typical ios user mindset, and now it's typical of a WP user. Read this and let it sink in....

WP isn't selling because____(insert your own reasoning here)

Facebook is for children and girls. Men go hang out with their buds for beers. Oh yeah...facebook sucks no matter what platform it's injected into.

P.S. What kind of person does it take to give someone a thumbs down without explaining themselves? ______

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 09:57 10

10. tigermcm (Posts: 745; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


so let me understand this correctly. Microsoft's whole point of Win Phone has been around people first no one can deny that right? Facebook does Facebook Home and want to put people first. So because it seems no one likes WP we want to call MS pointing out the fact Facebook is trying to ride their coat tail a diss? Seems more like MS is stating fact not dissing

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 10:36

16. NateAdam8 (Posts: 225; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


They just want the assimilation of all social networks on the entire internet into there Windows Phone :-)

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:10

18. talon95 (Posts: 67; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


I like WP well enough, I don't care to use it but that's another matter. I see this as damage control. They're saying they already have it which is fine but that means that they see this as android getting closer to what they have.
I surely don't want FB Home on my phone but what I like is that I have the option to put it. That is what worries MS in my mind, Android has a very wide audience and it gets wider every month because of the customizations that are possible. Good job FB on creating a launcher rather than a new OS branch and custom hardware, I'd like to see even more of these options build on stock Android in the future. Give me the options I want, which is where MS and iOS typically fall short and bore me after a few months.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:44

21. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


atleast MS isnt Suing them for that like Apploes

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:28 4

19. volcano (Posts: 267; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


another windows phone creative idea copied to android apperently andriod is the correct place if you want a copycat product

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:51

25. akki20892 (Posts: 3623; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


who want facebook home.......!!! app is better

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 18:14

42. talon95 (Posts: 67; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


Hardly a windows idea. I'm pretty sick of hearing about copying in general. If people are asking for it then give it to them. I really don't care what caveman came up with keeping all his friends info on the same slab. If myspace was the first social network then by your logic Facebook shouldn't exist and MS shouldn't be allowed to have a social hub at all. How about we agree that the more good options there are the better, and that android has a lot of options.
Also should point out the FB Home is vastly different than MS WP. Even if MS had a patent it wouldn't matter since it's so different. But even if it was identical, would you feel threatened that someone with an android phone was enjoying the same interface as your windows phone? Hmm...I guess the windows market shouldn't allow any more apps that already exist on iTunes or Play because that would make them a copycat, oh wait, maybe that's why the app selection is still so poor. Now I see their logic :)

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 11:52 1

26. Aeires (unregistered)


Shaw diverts attention from the real problem, not everyone likes the live tile UI. If I own an Android phone and want FB home, that's my choice. If I own the same phone and don't want the FB home, it's not getting installed. Meanwhile, with MS phones you get the live tiles regardless of a FB tile or not.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 13:08 1

30. pookiewood (Posts: 623; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


Your Live Tile vs Home doesn't make sense. You are comparing the working of Windows Phone to what is essentially an App.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 15:54

36. Aeires (unregistered)


One gives you the choice of installing, the other you're stuck with if you buy the phone. Like I said, not everyone likes the live tiles. Shaw is just diverting attention away from slow sales by bashing Android, which has outstanding sales.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 16:46

38. pookiewood (Posts: 623; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


You are still comparing Apples to Oranges.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 12:07

29. Stuntman (Posts: 754; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


When I first heard about Windows phone and the people hub, I thought it was an interesting concept to organise my messaging according to the people rather than via apps. I did at the time had an HTC widget that did pretty much the same thing. I look at groups of people and their updates. However, I found this to be not the way I like to view messages and updates.

You see, it is interesting to bring up a contact and then see their social media updates and personal messages all in one place. However, the problem I had was that emails and messages tend ot have a higher priority than social media updates. I didn't want all of these types of messages mixed together and so I stopped using that widget.

I feel that real time chats have a higher priority than messages that are higher than emails that are higher than my social networks. Even within social networks, I rate Google+ higher than FB which is higher than Twitter. The priority of these different types of messages means that I would group them differently and do not want to see messages and updates from them mixed together. In the end, organising my messages by apps seem to work pretty well for me now. When I send a message to a contact, I don't care to have his social network update there in my face. Usually my message is related to other messages within the same app, but not with other apps.

I do commend MS for taking a fresh approach to how it makes a phone OS. At least for me and for now, organising my communications via apps on my phone is good enough right now.

On a side note, I can see a more unified messaging approach being good for work. Usually, all work related messaging from people whether it is email, IM or voice mail share the same priority and it is useful to switch back and forth between the different types of messaging on the same subject at my job. We don't have lower priority messages for work like social networking. I can see such activity would be frowned upon.

With regard to Facebook Home, my impression is that it is rather limiting. It puts Facebook in the foreground of anything I do, even those functions not related to FB at all. At least WP is not so in your face to push one messaging service over others.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 13:33

33. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Poor ms. Still trying to find flaws with other OS's. I suppose it's the only option when you can't find strengths in your own OS to sell to people.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 17:01

40. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


they didnt said its a flaw if u can read its just also in their OS thats all they want to tell you and for like 2 years now hahaha its prety old feature u android guys jumping about happily

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 18:38

45. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Ok...maybe I read his first paragraph wrong, and thx for getting me to look at it again.

"So, while we applaud Facebook for working to give some Android owners a taste of what a “people-centric” phone can be like, we’d humbly like to suggest that you get the real thing, and simply upgrade to a Windows Phone."

So ms is offering a better fb experience than fb? So we can assume fb home will not be coming to WP?

posted on 09 Apr 2013, 01:37

50. haseebzahid (Posts: 1836; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


yes it wont be coming most probably and i guess it is not required if u get a chance to look around WP try its people HUB its the best part you only login with ur ID once and thats it ur whole social network linked to ur IDs is added instantly tahts just the start

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 16:02

37. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Facebook Home might have a little trouble being successful. I thought that at least Microsoft would speak to the concept but man, if this is how the higher ups feel, Facebook might be in trouble.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 19:40

46. ZeroCide (Posts: 698; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


I thought the same thing when i saw the preview last week.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 22:50

48. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Strange MS going at Facebook like that. Arent they like partners or something? Yea its for Android...but its still mainly a Facebook thing.

posted on 08 Apr 2013, 22:56 1

49. steelicon (Posts: 313; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Prov. You should not criticize other people for having the same faults that you yourself have. Jill: Richard sure was drinking a lot at the office party. Jane: I noticed you had quite a few cocktails yourself. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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