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Chen calls Apple iPhone users "wall-huggers"

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BlackBerry CEO John Chen seems like a fearless sort. It takes someone who has been battle scarred to take on such contemporaries as T-Mobile CEO John Legere. Chen did manage to turn around Sybase, dress it up, and sell it off to SAP for $5.8 billion, so we know that he is a tough cookie. How tough? Well, he just managed to "dis" the whole population of Apple iPhone users, calling them "wall-huggers".

Chen was speaking at the Oasis Montgomery Conference and was asked what he thought about Apple's (all together now) iconic smartphone. The executive said that since the device cannot last a full day without requiring a battery recharge, he calls users of the device "wall-huggers" which apparently means that iPhone users are constantly leaning against a wall, recharging their handset.

Attacking the phone that has nearly a 42% share of the U.S. market, according to the latest comScore report, when your devices own just 3.1% (and falling) is an interesting tactic. May we suggest though, that Mr. Chen await the release of that rumored 64 bit octa-core super spec'd model before putting down any of the competition, including Windows Phone flavored handsets which have just leapfrogged over BlackBerry according to that same previously mentioned comScore report.

John Chen is the real deal and has said all the right things up to now. But when he starts making comments like this, it almost reminds us of the days when RIM was run by Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie.

source: TUAW via RedmondPie

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posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:26 4

1. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)

lol that must make blackberry wall-huggers too....
But seriously, unless they add in a huge battery (for the next iteration of blackberry phones), they are pretty much in the same position as the iphone in terms of battery life.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:39 2

16. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 1406; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)

I dont think battery life was ever an issue for most of iphone users in order to make them buy a BB phone. Ye its not the best one but its ok. Plus calling your potential customers as wall huggers is just plain stupid.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 15:15 11

19. Finalflash (Posts: 3071; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

I don't think many iPhone users would switch to a BB now anyway, BB10 has a learning curve that most iPhone users (children and elderly) probably couldn't figure out. Still, if MS can have their Scroogled Campaign running when they're in the same number range as BB, then you can't really say Chen is stepping over the line. I think Chen just struck a personal chord with Alan by mocking Apple though, prompting this article. Still, I will see how Chen turns BB around because until he does, his words are without weight.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 21:07 2

30. moroninc (Posts: 193; Member since: 14 Jul 2012)

its the whole iPhone experience dude.. battery life is the last thing we are worried about when we decide to buy a phone. Depends on which experience you want. if your an old person that doesnt want any nonsense on your phone.. Get an iPhone, if your young and want customization your phone get an Android. Windows phone? .. maybe for the budget minded that prefer Nokia phones. then we have the bottom feeder Blackberry Sadly.. but what goes up must come down.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 23:12

32. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)

not sure if you are talking to me because I've never complained about the battery life of the iPhone. All I did was response to what Blackberry CEO said....(As in he is talking nonsense because his phones have similar battery life to the iphone)

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:32 15

2. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12920; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)

Big talk coming from someone who's product was doa.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:34 5

5. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)

I'm pretty sure that is the first +1 I have ever given you...

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 16:18 4

23. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)

Brings back the early days of Android, when Steve Jobs called 7" tablets DOA and all the mindless iFans chanted that for months on just about every tech site. How history has changed despite some things remaining the exact same.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 17:37

26. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)

Well 7" tablets are DOA. They are effectively phablets these days, which adds to their identity crisis.

Google is rumored to be shelving the 7" Nexus 7 family in favor of an 8" Nexus 8 this year in order to challenge the iPad Mini, as many find the 7" display too small and narrow.

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 10:28 2

41. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)

I have Nexus 7 and Note 3 and I feel that I should change to smaller phone or bigger tablet.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:34 11

3. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)

Either this is a poor attempt at humor, or just a bad move on his part. The new Blackberries have terrible battery life, so he has no room to slam Apple for the same thing.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:40 9

6. gamma (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)

BB has been known for amazing batteries ...only z10 falls out on this side of things , but still better than iphone5's battery ....my z30 lastes a hole 20 hours of play music and chating without a worry

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:48 6

8. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Blackberry and amazing batteries on the same sentence? I must be dreaming.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 15:08 7

18. nokia12 (Posts: 484; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)

that is why you can't see the light

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 10:20

40. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)

I haven't seen this out of any of the new Z or Q devices that have come out of my stores... Sounds like a bold statement to me.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:43 2

7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

There must be something wrong with the water at BB's offices. Chen is looking like he is infected with the same denial syndrome as his predecessors. Early on, he made some non-denial moves, which could be explained by the absence of the denial toxin. But now, after the toxin has built up in his system, it is business as usual.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 16:16 1

22. NewBBUser (Posts: 10; Member since: 08 Mar 2014)

If you're talking about the Blackberry Z10 being horrible in battery life, I would agree with you.

If you're talking about the Q10, or even the Z30, then please do some research. The Z30 battery is as terrible as the LG G2, which is pretty damn good imo.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:34 4

4. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)

I hope you the best BlackBerry! Never give up!

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 13:50 4

9. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10453; Member since: 14 May 2012)

He just dug a grave for himself.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:06 2

10. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)


posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:08 3

11. shamatuu (Posts: 159; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)

That's majority of all smartphones these days. So no need to trash Apple for that.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:08 4

12. jroc74 (Posts: 6004; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Oohh....them's fighting words....

Overall over the years iPhone have had decent battery life. He coulda chose something they actually did poorly on a regular basis or couldnt do at all.

And its kinda too late to take shots at the iPhone...ask Ballmer and the former execs at BB about that....

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:26 1

13. papss (unregistered)

At this point with bb what else can he do to stay in the lime light... Phones don't just magically get completed so he is trying to stay in the news.. No harm in that I suppose. People get their panties in a bunch over simple words then I feel sorry for them, he's doing what he has to do. Only other option is to die quietly

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:28 1

14. HildyJ (Posts: 294; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Still, the customers they market to are different. Apple sells to the baristas, BB is going after Starbucks' IT and Purchasing Managers.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:38 4

15. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 1406; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)

So you call your potential customers as wall huggers when your company is close to being bankrupt in a year or so.. OK.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 16:21

24. NewBBUser (Posts: 10; Member since: 08 Mar 2014)

"bankrupt" you say? LMAO ok. If you think sitting on bilions of dollars in cash means bankrupt, I guess Google and Apple are also on their life support then.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 14:58 1

17. JunitoNH (Posts: 1770; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)

Lost in translation. Oh wait, he does speak English.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 15:18 8

20. tedkord (Posts: 11581; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

I have to admit, the only reason I clicked on this article is I had to know what wall hugger meant.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 16:10 1

21. jroc74 (Posts: 6004; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

lol......me too. I dont think I ever heard that term before.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 17:58 3

27. lyndon420 (Posts: 4349; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

I originally thought it was a reference to apple's walled garden lol.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 16:31 1

25. Gawain (Posts: 420; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)

Hehe...more like "window lickers"...

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 19:45 2

28. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Chen wishes he had all those wall huggers from apple using BB. He have major success on his hands, if he did. iOS, android, and wp8 run the game.

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 20:35 1

29. ThePython (Posts: 887; Member since: 08 May 2013)


posted on 08 Mar 2014, 22:46 1

31. techloverNYC (Posts: 601; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)

There many battery cases for android and apple phones so battery is not a problem. Blackberry in the other is in big problem...u cant even find a battery case for BB

posted on 08 Mar 2014, 23:12 1

33. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

He's not wrong, but a bit of "pot calling kettle black" here.

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 00:00

34. mihulsingh (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Mar 2014)

BlackBerry phones do have a great battery life, I've used a Bold 9780 and now I have a BlackBerry Q5 and I must say they both lasted me about 1.5 days, on my Q5, I constantly send E-Mails, send messages on Whatsapp, check on Facebook and Twitter and also a little bit of gaming here and there, and it still lasts me 1.5 days.I also keep my mobile data always on.

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 00:50

35. ameyabb (Posts: 11; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)

But this guy here is absolutely right. Yes, when Mike Lazardis and Jim Balsille said what they said, everyone could sense they were in the wrong direction because they were basically defending their own approach towards a smartphone against that of Apple's, that too when the iOS and the then latest approach was creating waves.
And this statement is a generalised statement that's in line with the fact that most of the iPhone users have to indeed carry their chargers to keep their Phone working. So comparing this statement with what Lazardis and Balsille said back then is completely out of context.
iPhone indeed needs to fix the Battery thing. The Battery backup, at times, is absolutely unbearable.

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 00:55 1

36. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)

How truthful he is

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 01:30 1

37. bernwong0274 (Posts: 7; Member since: 13 Oct 2013)

Truth does hurt sometimes...

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 06:34 2

38. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)

Not an iPhone5 fact by any means, but I would definitely take it over a Blackberry any day. Heck I would take a flip phone as well. Chen your and idiot and Blackberrys market share will continue to fail

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 10:02 2

39. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't he right?

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 10:31 1

42. eldyagustius (Posts: 177; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)

The three main reasons that make Blackberry battery lasts longer compared to iPhone or maybe even Android:
1. Blackberry users don't know what to do with their handheld other than open their emails, read news, and social media because it lacks of apps compared to iPhone and Android handhelds.
2. What services did Blackberry run on the background compared to the Android smartphone? Nothing!
3. Yeah maybe you're right about your statement which has only less than 1.500 mAh battery. Maybe you can compare BB with the Android smartphones which has the similar battery size like SGS 4. It has much running services on the background, but it still has the better endurance battery based on the gsmarena test.

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 10:48 1

43. renz4 (Posts: 317; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)

btw why asking BB CEO about apple smartphone in the first place?

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 13:05

44. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)

This guy better make sure any and all future models have one hell of a battery.

He literally painted himself into a corner here....

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 13:43

45. T00muchF00D (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)

I am just baffled how somebody here said that if someone is looming at windows phone....its for a budget Nokia phone. I'm sick and tired of you people on here who dont do any research just because windows phone isn't your platform of choice! My NOKIA LUMIA 1520 that has been out for months benchmarks higher with the old adreno 330 than the not yet released "flagship" Galaxy S 5. Get out of here. My Lumia 1520 is not budget. 1080p screen with ClearBlack technology and Pure Motion technology and gorilla glass 3. My 20mp camera with PureView technology. My polycarbonate Unibody. My Quad core Snapdragon 800 processors. With an OS as smooth as putting a heated knife through butter. No lag like android. I know I'm exaggerating when I say this>>>>it would take IBM's Watson super computer to run Android without lag....but I feel like it would...maybe because year after year 95% of malware is on android. Get over yourselves android know it alls. I'm not a fan of Apple or Blackberry but I've used both platforms aside from my Windows phone and I've appreciated the smooth and consistent OS's

posted on 09 Mar 2014, 19:14

46. garyII (Posts: 160; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)

why is BB not changing to Android or Window, at least it manage to survive this storm, then only it release back its BB OS just like sammy having Tizens while at the same time producing ANdroid phone...

posted on 10 Mar 2014, 00:06

47. renz4 (Posts: 317; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)

isn't that people getting BB because it was BB and not android or WP? and switching to android doesn't guarantee people to get more of their phone either. instead of wasting their resource to make another ecosystem based on android it is better to for them to strengthen their own ecosystem. also the situation isn't like samsung's tizen.

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