Archos considers entering the Windows Phone market
It might have been too premature to ask this question, but the interviewer did question the CEO on how Archos would divide its resources between Google's open source OS and Microsoft's mobile OS. "Before anything else we are focused on Google," stated Poirier.
One report from ABI Research indicated that Windows Phone saw the number of handsets shipped with the platform soar 104% on a year-over-year basis for the fourth quarter of 2013. Other recent reports, including one from Windows Phone mobile ad network AdDuplex, reveal that Nokia is delivering 93% of the handsets running the platform. With Nokia's control over both the low and high end of the Windows Phone market, and with Microsoft's soon to close acquisition of the Nokia Devices and Services division, it might not be that easy for Archos to shoehorn its way into the Windows Phone business. Bigger names like Samsung and HTC have tried and thus far, have failed to make a mark in Windows Phone handsets.
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1. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
If they do launch a WP device then they would've made the smart choice.. There's just to much opportunity in a market that's dominated by a company that has no one trying hard to compete with it...
The Lumia brand needs some serious competition in order for Lumia devices to continue to be as great as they are....
It would be smart for companies like HTC, Sony, LG, And now Motorola to invest more resources in WP... Samsung is not letting up on Android anytime soon, so vendors need to start preparing for what's next...
And like it, or not, what's next is WP..
3. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Also, this last line......
"Bigger names like Samsung and HTC have tried and thus far, have failed to make a mark in Windows Phone handsets."""
Lol.. They haven't tried nearly as hard as they could....
It depends on your definition of "tried"...
4. chocowii (Posts: 155; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)
Lumia raised the bar on what WP should be. Quality is good knowing its a Nokia. For Archos, a move to WP is a great move knowing that Archos is drowning in an ocean of saturated droids. Based on the market trend the success of WP is because of the affordable Lumia 520. Archos should make a budget gadget, tablet or phone.
6. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I agree... That's their best bet right now.. The budget market... Just like Android WP is going to have to build from the bottom up... Heck, even the majority of current Android's market share is based on the low, and midrange, end of the market.. That's just how it goes with every product...
gaining more market share in the low end is only going to pay of for the entire WP ecosystem in the long run... Especially if WP sales can pick up in the US, and China.
24. quakan (Posts: 1084; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
Archos = budget (really low budget). I remember having an Archos android tablet a little over 3 years ago and it was such a huge headache. I returned it within a week.
25. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
So, we're talking about WP devices for emerging markets..
7. Sharky (Posts: 79; Member since: 24 Jun 2008)
IDK if they'd make much of an impact though (Archos that is). They've been the picture of mediocrity for a long time now.
10. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Lol.. Like I said,, start from the bottom up... I guess in this case it's the rock bottom.. SMH..
23. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
There's no money in WP. Is anyone making any money in that ecosystem? Nokia owns the WP market, and they are being sold for chump change. Why would anyone else think they could make any real money?
The only reason I can think of anyone jumping would be that Microsoft has finally gotten desperate enough to give away licenses. They don't care that nobody else makes money since they rake in all of the money spent in the ecosystem. A bottom feeder like Archos could just toss out more junk like the 520, and even though the margins aren't good, make enough by moving them in bulk to people who would normally buy a feature phone, those who can't afford an expensive device, or those who don't need a full-featured smartphone.
28. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 607; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
It is cheaply built and offers low-end specs, like one would assume from a $99 device, but it doesn't do the one thing everyone expects from the least powerful OS on the planet: Run WP well.
Now I know, given your over zealous astro...err, "praising" of WP, is that the party line is "It runs so smooth on any hardware," but perhaps you have never owned one.
As someone who has owned seven different WP devices (8 total - 2 920's), the 520 is fine if you want to send a text or make a call. Of course, so is a Motorola RAZR V3. If you try to watch video or stream music while browsing, the 520 stutters like a seizure victim trying to recite the Periodic Table in a mosh pit.
People would be better off with a feature phone, at that rate, and they would definitely be better off spending another $70 for an actual smartphone, the Moto G.
33. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
How does it perform compared to other devices less than $99 off contract?
Oh, and you must be thinking about another WP fan, because I don't say little, age old, punch lines just for the sake of saying them.. Those are the worst arguments... So, next time you better know what I'm about before you try to describe me, or just leave that part out of your reply.. If you want to insult me then let it be at that, but don't insult me then carry on as though I have to except that kind of BS from you...
2. darkvadervip (Posts: 275; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
HTC is failing in everything and Samsung didn't have a great phone to offer.
5. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
HTC hasn't failed... You have to try first to fail... Releasing two WP devices in a year, with no sign of more to come, is hardly trying... If HTC is getting slaughtered by Samsung then they should try something different..... WP
8. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 4852; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
What's good for HTC is to stick with Android for now, they shouldn't waste their time on WP. HTC release three WP devices, 8X, 8S and 8XT (8XT is not available in my country), but I can't even see people using it on the streets or even in the city.
HTC should stick with Android cuz it's safer for them, enough said.
20. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 4852; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
And that means WP devices from HTC aren't popular, the WP devices I see people using are Nokia Lumias.
21. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Have you ever seen what a record does when it has a big scratch in it?
27. Mrmark (Posts: 82; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)
Statement is very true .... Also to add to the hurt is because of Nokia exclusive Apps and updates to their devices !
16. snowgator (Posts: 3160; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
HTC has truly shown very little "follow through" on whatever vision they pick at the time. From Beats Audio to Windows Phones, from their poor attempt at a camera on their ONE series to their "iffy" updates to their phones, name it and HTC has dabbled in it but it seems they do not have a clear idea of what type of mobile company they want to be. Heck, Samsung has over 20 unique apps in their Windows Phone collection, HTC only had 7 last I checked. And this from the company Microsoft had declared a close enough relationship to allow them to use "Windows Phone" in the naming of their WP8 devices.
I find it particulary sad for 2 reasons:
1) I love HTC phones as far as their feel and hardware.
2) Without HTC, there is no WP. They were the company that pushed WP7 handsets into nearly ever region and on every carrier. It just bums me out I do not trust them enough to consider them.
Time for a new CEO?
17. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
That's pretty much true.. As much as I hate to admit it,, what you said is very accurate, as far as I'm concerned.. They need to try much harder on a few core things.. You're right.. Someone is making some "safe" decisions... They need some bold decisions, like Nokia makes..
29. tigermcm (Posts: 608; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
what I don't understand is HTC was killing everyone else when it was WM now when WP came out its like the are a new kid scared to come out on the playground
30. NokiaFTW (Posts: 844; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I don't think HTC failed in the WP arena. The 8X was a great phone with great specs that could rival the Lumia 920, However, they didn't market it well and overall they didn't put much effort in trying to sell it.
35. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Everything you said after "however" is the exact reason they failed...
12. snowgator (Posts: 3160; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Okay, I hate to admit this as a mobile enthusiast, but...
Who in the name of the Unknonw Soldier is Archos? I have never even heard of them.
14. rodneyej1 (Posts: 2881; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Then, they must be kinda small... That dude looks like he's in the mob..
15. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 4852; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
22. chocowii (Posts: 155; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)
They make pricey midrange tablets in emerging markets so they never stood out.
36. XperiaOptimusOne (unregistered)
Saw an Archos tab today. Their price to spec ratio is ridiculous.
32. timezone (Posts: 69; Member since: 16 Jun 2013)
The others didn't fail because of Nokia's marketshare. The others built Windows phones they refused to support with marketing. HTC would be wildly successful if they came home again. Instead HTC looks at the struggles with Android and then the market share of Windows phones and concludes they can't win. Wrong analysis.