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Apple uses Windows to make Macs

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Apple uses Windows to make Macs
This would not be so interesting if we were not on the heels of Apple’s big (and some overblown) announcements at WWDC this past week, but public relations being what it is, social media being what it is, and image being what it is, Apple CEO Tim Cook’s recent tweet extoling the virtues of American manufacturing does have a fly in the ointment.

Apple started making some of its Mac computers in Texas as part of a strategy for reorienting some jobs and business operations to the United States.

As Apple already had sizeable operations in Austin, Texas, expanding those activities to include manufacturing, along with Texas’ favorable business climate, was not likely an overly difficult endeavor.  For now, and the foreseeable future, Apple's US manufacturing will be centered around assembling certain lines of Mac computers.  There is no real expectation or indication that we will see iPhones or iPads made in Texas.

For a company with the scope of products and services it has, one might think Apple would have much of its own resources available to control the manufacturing process, soup-to-nuts. Despite its digs at Microsoft during the Keynote address at WWDC, even Apple is not fully out of the shadow of the company that rules the workspace.

In Tim Cook’s tweet about visiting Apple’s Austin, he shared a picture that was taken along the assembly line of Mac Pro. The people that man the line have iMacs that provide information along the process and what do they happen to be running, but what appear to be the Windows 7 operating system.

Apple uses Windows to make Macs
We have seen similar images from Apple’s contract manufacturers like Foxconn, but that was in Asia, and Foxconn does more than make Apple stuff. This is Apple, making Apple gear, using Windows.

Are we really surprised? No. For all their any given faults, there just some things you cannot do on some machines running a particular environment, be it Windows, OS X, Linux, Ubuntu, et al. Could the PR person, or Twitter handler, for Tim Cook have chosen another angle to take the picture? Well, yes.  How might Microsoft feel?  Free publicity and some sense of vindication would seem to be rational.

That said, we hope that Apple’s venture to start making stuff in the US, having moved such operations offshore decades ago, is successful enough that it can be scaled to allow the manufacture of even more of Apple’s products. It will not be an easy feat. Others have tried, and failed, closing up shop within very short periods of time. When offshore labor costs and regulations amount to literally pennies on the dollar in cost comparison, it will be quite the accomplishment to see Apple pull this initiative off.

Apple uses Windows to make Macs

sources: Tim Cook (Twitter) via Redmond Pie

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posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:04 33

1. f_u_006 (Posts: 8; Member since: 19 Mar 2014)


Apple is a jerk!

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:25 17

8. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


And patent trolls pos

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 01:54 8

26. chocowii (Posts: 327; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


Android apps are also made on numerous Windows and Macs.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 03:32 16

28. Finalflash (Posts: 1736; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Yea, but you don't see Google bad mouthing other platforms. Since Apple and MS have released a toxic hell stew of scroogled styled rhetoric against them, they don't get to use other platforms to their advantage after (they can but its really ironic then).

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 05:19 3

30. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 1287; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


Not sure what that response had to do with the comment. The point was, Android apps are also made on Windows and Macs.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 07:33 3

37. sprockkets (Posts: 1160; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


And you can use linux.

Wanna make ios apps? Buy a bleeping $1000 mac you cheap bastards!

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 08:53 2

42. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5478; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


True! If you want to compile iOS apps you need to have a Mac (there is few solutions but they are more like a pain in the a**).

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 15:32

47. Jinto (Posts: 393; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)


There's this plugin for Microsoft Visual Studio called Xamarin and it lets you make Android and iOs apps on Windows. I used it a couple of times and it works like magic.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 21:36

54. HildyJ (Posts: 121; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


They know if you want pretty, you use Apple, if you want useful, you use Microsoft. I bet all the computers in the CFO's group run Windows as well to track the Apple tax revenues.

posted on 11 Jun 2014, 17:54

58. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Or if you're not connecting it to the internet in EVER - WIndows is fine. Otherwise youll expose all your data to hackers. Look at Target. They have windows based POS system - andddd credit cards = STOLEN xD

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:08 5

2. Ninetysix (Posts: 1579; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


http://gizmodo.com/5552152/google-hq-throwing-out-windows-in-favor-of-os-x-or-linux

Meanwhile inside the most innovative brand of 2014. Been this way for years. Maybe Apple are using Macs and running Windows OS on them in the Texas factory? Macs can run both natively.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:24 14

7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5749; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


If the production management software is only available on Windows, even Apple will have to run Windows.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 23:19 4

13. promise7 (Posts: 410; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


I think so too, if you look closely those are Mac's, but with Boot Camp they're using WIndows OS. Hard to tell, but it actually looks like Windows XP...

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 23:43 5

15. vincelongman (Posts: 1150; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Its not that clear, but I'm pretty sure that's Windows 7
circular start menu button
transparent aero theme around the borders
and the icons pinned on the taskbar

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:08 21

3. dontneedtoknow (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)


I think apple has one of the sexiest and compact design for their hardware but in my opinion, windows is way better than OS X

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:24 7

6. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Sony Vaio Zseries Apple copied Zseries laptops

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 18:51 1

49. stealthd (Posts: 956; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)


LOOOL

No they didn't. That's as laughable as saying Apple copied the Prada for the original iPhone

posted on 11 Jun 2014, 17:51

57. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)


You're such a f**king troll!!! LOL

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 23:59 6

16. PBXtech (Posts: 977; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


For laptops, Asus Zenbooks are sexy too.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:06 4

19. ihavenoname (Posts: 1377; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


I personally prefer Macbooks to anything else, but I do like both Vaio and Zenbook line-up.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:09 1

4. DEATHSTROKE9 (Posts: 399; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)


They are not gonna use Yosemite for manufacturing!!! And how's this news? Tell me something about google IO!

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 23:13 6

12. Marienx (Posts: 19; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


Why not?... It's rather embarrassing to see apple assembling their hardware with the competition's software, why? because they've been advertising trash about the competition... Is it ok to see the share holders of Pepsi co. drinking Coca-Cola?.... NO!

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 07:41

39. DEATHSTROKE9 (Posts: 399; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)


It's like using the worst software for the most menial jobs. Do you understand now? Personally I am dumping my Acer windows 7 cràptop for a Macbook this year.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 07:47 2

40. HASHTAG (Posts: 152; Member since: 31 Jan 2014)


Haha. You have an Acer.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 08:44

41. billgates (banned) (Posts: 555; Member since: 29 May 2014)


Y it might be a craptop the OS it's using is not.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 09:54

43. tedkord (Posts: 4734; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, it's like using the software that does all the things your software can't.

Oh, but since you're allegedly replacing a Windows laptop with a MacBook, that proves your point. In your head.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 19:27

50. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)


That just means the software maker for that particular machine they are opertaing does not make it for mac... so they have to boot windows on the mac which, btw, Mac runs windos better than a normal PC of the same specs.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 20:37

52. WinDroid (Posts: 77; Member since: 20 May 2014)


"Mac runs Windows better than a normal PC". Macs are just normal PCs. same hardware, just more expensive. Also PCs can run OSX, granted not legally because Apple locks their OS but OSX runs on a "Regular PC" just fine and it runs just as good as a "MAC PC". Linux runs on everything and is free so surprised they aren't using that, most software developers use linux anyway.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:23 4

5. alexandrecastro (Posts: 20; Member since: 23 Feb 2014)


What would you guys expect! Try to use SolidWorks or Catia on OS X

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 06:45

33. buccob (Posts: 1423; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


Exactly the point, so apple doesn't get to bad mouth the competition

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:26 6

9. Arte-8800 (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Apple RIP

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 22:42 5

10. Ninetysix (Posts: 1579; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


LOL @ RIP. They're not going anywhere anytime soon broski. You'll be long dead before they hit rock bottom..if ever.

http://www.forbes.com/companies/apple/

http://www.forbes.com/companies/samsung-electronics/

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:22 9

21. ihavenoname (Posts: 1377; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


In my opinion only Google is less likely to "rest in peace" than Apple.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 23:07 18

11. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2003; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


OS X is a sleek, stylish and fluid OS. I really like it. But I don't think that's what makes people by Macs. Most people buy a Mac for the Apple logo or just for the hardware and design. I know so many people who have bought a MacBook and then slapped WIndows on them. NO OS can beat the functionality of WIndows, no OS X, no Chrome OS, nothing. People might hate MS or Windows, but their desktop OS is light years ahead of its nearest competition. That's why I love and use WIndows. MSFTW!

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 23:37 1

14. shuaibhere (Posts: 1428; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Light years ahead only in apps department....
Windows needs lot of maintenance...
My linux system is free of that....

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:03 10

18. ihavenoname (Posts: 1377; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


I personally prefer OS X, (design, animations, experience, fluidity), but Windows is very functional OS and they are not #1 without reason.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 02:05 2

27. shuaibhere (Posts: 1428; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Want to know the reason???
monopoly

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 04:12 4

29. vincelongman (Posts: 1150; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Well maybe if Apple allowed their OS on other hardware then MS wouldn't have a monopoly

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 05:58 3

31. express77 (unregistered)


I respect Steve Jobs a lot(not his personal life though). But his and other apple executives' stupid ego made them to keep Mac OS for themselves. If they had less ego, we would have been seeing much better desktop OSes right now due to competition. Windows would have been much better.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 06:12 2

32. vincelongman (Posts: 1150; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Exactly, if Mac OS was allowed on other computers it would have forced MS to update their OS more regularly and MS would have to reduce their $100+ price for Windows as well

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 09:57 1

44. tedkord (Posts: 4734; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


One doesn't get a non - governmental enforced monopoly by putting out a crap product.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 11:03 1

45. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2003; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Take out a dictionary and look up the word monopoly. It isn't MS's fault if Apple or Google couldn't come up with better OSes to compete with Windows. Get over this "Microsoft is monopolist" crap. If you have a solid proof of it, show it to us. Or else, refrain from commenting such BS.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 20:39 1

53. WinDroid (Posts: 77; Member since: 20 May 2014)


Besides Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly. LInux is used on nearly as many systems as Windows (and in many cases both are used on the same system). It's just OSX that is a complete failure because it locks the operating system to Apple computers (legally anyway).

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:02 4

17. PBXtech (Posts: 977; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


Sounds to me Windows has better productivity software for their needs than OS X does. I wouldn't read too much into this beyond it being comical on some levels.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 19:29

51. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Exactly, which means the person who designed this industrial app, didn't make it for Mac, whic makes sense since most industries buy PC's for their affordabiilty.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:21 4

20. techspace (Posts: 631; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


We have also seen many macs @MS .....macs were used to make windows 8
These huge companies make use of each others' products really well
They don't fight like the fanboys who use their products.
Untouchability, hatred etc exists only in marketing, courtrooms and in the fanboys' minds

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:26 2

22. ihavenoname (Posts: 1377; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


Macs were also used to make Android (which many Apple haters here love). Heck, go to Google and try not to see a Macbook, won't be many seconds.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:42 1

23. techspace (Posts: 631; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


I am talking about all the companies not just apple and ms, that was just an example.
you are right, macs are also used @ google.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:46 3

24. Nokia1100user (Posts: 12; Member since: 14 Aug 2013)


these macs are running on windows server, we have almost 300 of these macs and 700 other PCs in my college running on the server. its easier for the IT department to manage but also because most people are more familiar with windows than macs and because Microsoft has big influence on schools and businesses.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 00:59

25. sinple (Posts: 103; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


the official licenced retail store in my country boots their macbook into windows in order to use their POS. lol

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 06:51

34. jroc74 (Posts: 4731; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


That is actually funny tho.

Its not uncommon....like you will see ppl using Apple products at Google.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 07:16

35. berns (Posts: 1; Member since: 07 Jun 2014)


Even some existing apps break off upon starting after upgrading to higher OSX version, this has been one of the reason why most developers prefer to create apps on windows because its core is already stable and matured compares to Mac OSX.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 07:39 1

38. Akfred (Posts: 72; Member since: 08 Nov 2012)


Personally I love mac hardware but I will prefer windows
On them. My MBP mid 2013 run OS X and windows through
Boot camp. Windows is much more easy going,
And flexible than OS x.

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 13:39 1

46. xche78x (Posts: 101; Member since: 11 Mar 2014)


So the apple geniuses cannot make osx software to run their assembly line and had to resort to using the competitors OS and software. How Ironic and/or cheap of them! Hahaha

Written on an ipad mini instead of my heavy win8 iconia tab...

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 16:03 1

48. corporateJP (Posts: 1555; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Irony....

posted on 07 Jun 2014, 23:10

55. leonmbj (Posts: 12; Member since: 05 Jun 2014)


there is anyone that use mac server ?

posted on 08 Jun 2014, 03:33 2

56. volvoV70guy (Posts: 10; Member since: 06 Jun 2014)


OS X doesn't compete with Windows. I'm not sure why tech sites don't seem to get this. They are not comprable products - Windows is meant for productivity, gaming, networking, etc. Macs and their OS are meant to be pretty and trendy. Macs represent a tiny, tiny minority of PCs, and quite a lot of them are running Windows more often than different-for-the-sake-of-it OS X. This is just the reality, folks. I believe that this is the way Microsoft views Apple - they are not a threat to their most important products like Windows and Office. There's just a problem of what the current tech fashion trends are.

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