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Apple and Samsung resume settlement talks, but no deal is imminent

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Apple and Samsung resume settlement talks, but no deal is imminent
Apple and Samsung have been in a bitter back-and-forth lawsuit battle for the past couple years. Apple won the first round, and Samsung has been looking better in the second round, but really there will be no winners in this battle. The two companies have returned to the negotiation table to try to work out a settlement, but so far there is no deal on the horizon.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Apple and Samsung have held a series of negotiations since Apple's big win last summer. The two companies met for face-to-face negotiations in December on Samsung's home turf of Seoul, South Korea; and, although talks supposedly broke down in February, word has it that there are still negotiations ongoing in the leadup to the next showdown in court next month

Heavily redacted documents from the ITC have shown that Samsung is pushing for a broad patent cross-licensing deal which would settle all litigation between the companies, and completely put an end to this war. At least from the documents, it is unclear if Apple is open to such an idea, though CEO Tim Cook has expressed interest in settling lawsuits in the past. 

source: WSJ (subscription required)

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posted on 19 Jul 2013, 14:36 4

1. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6135; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


It would be nice if the judge JUST DROP THIS DAMN CASE. and besides Apple started this hole shyt

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 15:18

3. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Samsung was found by a court of law to be the guilty party with a sizeable penalty.

If you recall, Apple asked Samsung nicely to stop ripping off Apple IP. Businessinsider.com had a nice article recently pointing out the obvious of how Samsung apes Apple. http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-copies-apple-2013-7#samsungs-galaxy-tab-packaging-looked-a-lot-like-the-packaging-for-apples-ipad-4

Also, it's a KNOWN FACT in the business community that Samsung apes secret industry or product information from its customers. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/how-samsung-became-the-worlds-no-dot-1-smartphone-maker

It's up to Samsung to o the right thing: apologize and make amends. Even HTC settled with Apple.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 19:07 2

11. vincelongman (Posts: 950; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Watch this:www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0
Apple has copied other companies' phones, laptops and os, just as much.
Most of the "coping" Apple, Samsung and the other phone/computer companies do in my opinion is just competing with a competitor. I think they should be allowed to do this.
For example nearly every TV is the same except for the stand and slightly different remote, but TV don't sue each other over design or similar software/use.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 19:36 1

12. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Great link, thanks.

posted on 20 Jul 2013, 00:42 1

14. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Bhawhahaha you North Americans are hilarious. You think that the entire world should follow your stupid norms where every lawsuit is winnable.

Let me just put it this way. Apple winning that lawsuit doesn't mean s**t. In fact, their win is probably worse than the one where a woman successfully sued McDonalds for serving hot coffee and probably even more shady than the one where a burgalar who hurt himself during a robbery successly sued the owner of the house he was robbing for having a cluttered place.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 15:06 3

2. PhoneCritic (Posts: 352; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Seems like Samsung is holding out an Olive branch ( if cross licencing is being offered it seems pretty good). If Tim Cook is serious about ending these lawsuits then it would be great if he sat down at the table and also met Samsung half way. These lawsuits don't do any good and are a waste of time. The whole thermonuclear thing did not help Apple as Job thought but made Android stronger and will continue to if Apple persist. Its like the galactic empire against the rebel alliance.

Princess Liea to Grand Moth Tar-kin " the more star systems you try to crush with your grip the more that slip out"

There are just to many Android manufactures to take on. Sony, Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Pan tech, Panasonic, The Chinese manufactures, ( all these guys can make life hard on Apple if they decide not to manufacture Apples devices with the latest and greatest LCD panels, Chips and low yields because they decide to use them on their devices first.) not to mention Qualcomm and Arm ( that make are making a killing because of all the Android manufactures).

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 15:26

4. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


It's more like Apple giving Samsung yet another chance to settle.

Did you recall the trial with Judge Koh? She ordered the two sides to settle before the trial and Samsung being the prick and wrong-doer didn't want to accept their actions. Right before the jury deliberations, Judge Koh again asked if the two sides wanted to settle and Samsung continued acting like the bigger prick. Talk about such arrogance! Then the jury deemed Samung the guilty party and awarded sizeable financial penalties. So what did Samsung do, they went after the jury fireman. Talk about a sore-loser.

Again, Samung needs to do the right thing. They stole Apple's IP. The world knows this. If there was a word to describe Samsung, it would be incorrigible.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 15:41 5

6. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1202; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Neither of these companies are faultless. They both just need to settle this and give someone else a chance to use the court system.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 17:17 6

8. roscuthiii (Posts: 1785; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


"...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 19:57 4

13. joey_sfb (Posts: 2564; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


apple fans that insist on apple could do no wrong are insanely idiotic period.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 18:11 5

10. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


I remember Apple demanding $42 dollars for their patents and only wanting to pay Samsung pennies for theirs. Guess you forgot about that arrogant part on Apple's side.

I also remember a lot of Apple's IP getting invalidated because it was so vague. Guess you forgot that part too.

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 15:31

5. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


maybe sony will blow us and all this nonsense away

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 16:00

7. apple4never (Posts: 920; Member since: 08 May 2013)


lol lots of lawyers on pa

posted on 19 Jul 2013, 17:32

9. darkvadervip (Posts: 289; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


At the end of the day Microsoft is the winner. Both companies must pay Microsoft for every phone they make. Pimping ain't easy but they making it seem that way. I wonder if IBM will buy blackberry and start making phones next. Lol

posted on 20 Jul 2013, 00:43 1

15. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I lost a lot of respect for Samsung if they bitch out like HTC did. Don't let Apple get away with bullying. It is the principle.

posted on 20 Jul 2013, 00:48 1

16. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Ardent 1 is like the biggest dumb ass in the world. Fact is, Samsung has no problem paying Microsoft and Ericsson and Nokia because they actually invented things and have decent patents.

Apple on the other hand, no one wants to pay and HTC was the only company to bitch out so far. Its obvious that Apple is at fault here, otherwise people would just pay. Apple and their ridiculous claims simply have no merit.

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