T-Mobile says the U.S. market is not big enough for four major carriers
posted by Alan F. / Nov 16, 2012, 11:02 PM
Two of the top four carriers in the states are currently involved in potential deals. Japan's Softbank is shelling out $20 billion for 70% of Sprint, a deal that gives the carrier a capital injection of $8 billion to use toward its LTE build out. Yesterday, Sprint asked the FCC to sign off on the deal. The other deal features Alling's own firm in a take-over of MetroPCS. The deal is one of migration, getting MetroPCS customers to migrate over to T-Mobile phones and its eventual 4G LTE pipeline.
Alling probably wouldn't make this comment unless he thought that T-Mobile would be a survivor. But right now, the smart money is betting that Softbank-Sprint will probably takeover T-Mobile down the road. Even Sprint CEO Dan Hesse believes that this will happen. And having three major carriers serving a large population is something that is actually being done already in China, the largest smartphone market in the world. There, China Mobile, China Unicom and China Telecom handle more than 1 billion mobile subscribers.
T-Mobile sees an opportunity despite the lack of LTE service at the moment. CEO John Legere says that an aggressive roll out of LTE might be able to help T-Mobile grab market share at the expense of AT&T and Sprint. The former has 103 LTE markets and the latter just turned on its LTE signal in June. Verizon has 440 LTE markets at present, to lead the way.
source: Bloomberg via TMONews
not sure if the number 3 is "good" here or not :(
posted on Nov 16, 2012, 11:07 PM 7
well the problem is the americans love choice, the minute we go from the big four to the holy crap huge three......somebody will find a way to make it be the big four again. I love everything that t-mobile stands for as a carrier but the only thing keeping them in business is their incredibly affordable plans and hot spokeswoman lol! Verizon has the coverage, att has the exclusivity crap with phones, sprint has truly unlimited data, and tmobile is affordable. can you imagine if Verizon slashed the prices of their plans $20! Or if Sprint had faster data, or AT&T focused more and more on having better coverage and being cheaper than Verizon. the potential is limitless with what these carriers can do and they just dont do it because in the end they only care about how much money the execs are making, even if it means being homeless just to have the latest device on an extraordinarily expensive bill lol
posted on Nov 18, 2012, 7:28 PM 1
This is America lol! Attractive women influence every aspect of our lives, decisions, and culture! If t-mobile had some random dude then their sales would plummit! I actually knew a family that owned a t-mobile authorized reseller company that had 200 stores in the nation and he had record sales during the month off July 2012 when he announced that those who purchased a phone through them would be entered in for a chance to meet the t-mobile girl haha!
posted on Nov 24, 2012, 6:50 PM 0
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Interesting how some claim that the U.S. market is not large enough to support 4 major carriers, yet there are more than 4 regional carriers who are doing just fine, thank you. In fact, T-Mo just acquired one of the regionals.
posted on Nov 16, 2012, 11:11 PM 13
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Sprint was not doing "just fine" and T-Mobile would not be expressing their concern if they were doing "just fine".
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 9:25 AM 1
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Wha?! They ARE regional carriers, or atleast struggling ones. North American region to be exact. H2O, simple mobile, Net10, and even Metro are not because they only cover small sections of the US (not enough to claim majority coverage).
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 9:49 AM 0
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Maybe Tmobile should take the lead and do some changes. Lower phone prices cheaper plans work on being a even better budget carrier.
posted on Nov 16, 2012, 11:12 PM 5
i feel as if they are the budget carrier, if only they expanded their coverage even further then even i would switch, i have been with verizon and the only thing that ever keeps me with them is consistancy with coverage and never being in a dead zone. I live in southern utah and Verizon is the ONLY carrier that doesnt have a dead zone, tmobile barely even exists down here and att is a joke out here as well.
posted on Nov 18, 2012, 7:32 PM 1
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This is cool... in Macedonia a very small european country with only 2 million population we have 3 companies: T-Mobile (former Macedonian National Telecom operator) aprox 45%, ONE (Slovenian telecom) 30% and VIP (Vodafone) 25%. All working with profits. The importand thing is that in Macedonia is overed with mountains and full coverage is hard to achive, you need a lot of cellular towers to be put on the hills. Prices per minute are from $0.064 to $0.14 / SMS =$0.08 or less.
posted on Nov 16, 2012, 11:37 PM 1
i think india is only country in the world to have more than 7 carriers....vodafone, airtel, aircel, tata indicom, docomo, iDea, uninor, telenor and so on.....
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:15 AM 5
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I would guess/hope sprint fails and T-Mo takes its place and many of its subscribers. GSM carriers are traditionally stronger long-term, and have better long-term plans.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:39 AM 4
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You are a moron. Why would you hope that such a big company fail? Have you thought about what that could mean? 1000's of people will lose their jobs. You are correct that GSM carriers traditionally are stronger but not here in the states, Verizon and Sprint have over 50% of US cell subscribers. Sprint will be more then okay now that they have some cash. By the way, Sprint's and Verizon's rollout of LTE (GSM technology) is leading a path towards their eventual migration to only GSM or until something better comes out.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 8:41 AM 10
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Switzerland has THREE major carriers...and a population of ~8 Million. Sounds to me like T-mobile management has no idea what to do with the billions it got from AT&T ( due to the failed merger) and is once again looking to shop itself around for the next sutor.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:50 AM 6
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Bulls**t. There's plenty of room for even more than 4. The issue is, we actually have two truly national carriers, and two that are barely above regional. Spend the money you got from ATT on building out your network, and upgrading to LTE. If you want to be successful, you've got to offer something compelling. Coverage and value. Whiners. I really hope Google jumps into the carrier business and schools them all.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 2:49 AM 11
If the T-Mobile execs were smart about the money they make and stopped focusing so much on "having the fastest 4G around" and instead focused on expending their coverage which would in turn bring new customers and weaken the other carriers than they wouldnt have to worry so much and pretty much begging to be bought out by one of the larger 3 carriers. I dont want a big four, i wish they had another POST PAID CARRIER to give the big four some serious competition. US Cellular is a great company but their only regional, we need a national carrier that isnt just pre paid. I hate pre paid, its going to put alot of POST PAID sales people out of a job and its essentially no profit for the carriers.
posted on Nov 18, 2012, 7:42 PM 1
Hears a great idea.. Let a foreign company buy TMo and and not let another US company... Great idea.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 6:36 AM 1
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Argentina has 3 (Personal (Comparable to AT&T), Movistar (Comparable to Sprint, great support, good prices, but crappy data) & Claro (T-Mobile, great data, but is just crap)) with a 4th state-owned coming (Because of the pseudo-communist state our president wants to have)
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 7:34 AM 3
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