Samsung and HiSilicon to start selling chips to other smartphone manufacturers

Samsung and HiSilicon to start selling chips to other smartphone manufacturers
Samsung's Exynos and HiSilicon's Kirin have proven that they can stand on their own feet in today's tech market, both now having 64-bit models with up to 8 cores and LTE support on the way. So far, each SoC has been somewhat exclusive to its parent company's product line (Exynos goes in Samsung's line and Kirin fuels Huawei's high-end devices), however both manufacturers have said they plan to sell to other smartphone ODMs.

This is expected to be a welcome offering, since at the current time, most vendors are forced to purchase 90% of smartphone solutions from Qualcomm and MediaTek. Both product differentiation and some more competition in the SoC scene will make for better products and more diversity between manufacturers.

Exynos has already gotten the ball rolling, fuelling devices such as Meizu's MX flagship series, ORIGEN 4 Dual and Quad variants, the Lenovo K860 , Lenovo P700i, Hyndai T7 Tablet and other inhabitants of the asian markets.

source: DigiTimes

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24 Comments

1. Ashoaib

Posts: 3276; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

huawei's hisilicon kirin is not as powerful as qualcomm... they sit between mediatek and qualcomm

18. mistertimi

Posts: 77; Member since: May 28, 2014

As do the Exynos chips. It's just hugh number of cores and high CPU frequency, but the equivalent Qualcomm chips usually outpace them. As I always say.. Intel = Qualcomm, AMD = Samsung. Numbers don't beat performance, no matter how big they are!

21. ph00ny

Posts: 2026; Member since: May 26, 2011

Seeing how Samsung actually owns fabs and Qualcomm doesn't, it may be the other way around. Exynos was quicker than snapdragon in the previous gen and the new version seems to be kicking some ass

24. iushnt

Posts: 3086; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

I disagree with your post. Exynos gives same performance as SD even with lower clock speed. When benchmarked, it shows higher scores. .

2. Iodine

Posts: 1478; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

"...both now having 64-bit models..." Oh I didn't caught that.... Where they have 64-bit models ?

6. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

I was going to comment the same... The correct sentence would be "both now having 64-bits models in their pipeline.." As far as I know there is no 64 bits in the ultramobile market except for the Apple A7 and the Intel BayTrail.

12. The-Sailor-Man

Posts: 1095; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

They have it. Ready for mass production. Simply , not yet "magic" enthusiasts like Apple. Samsung will start to use them , when there is real benefit of 64 bit for smartphones(may be soon). Samsung is not so desperate for useless "magic" like Apple, because have enough real things to offer.

3. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

Wow, ADDITIONAL base for Android's fragmentation and Androtakus' excuses. Qualcomm has been doing well so far with their custom optimizations over stock AOSP, but with this kind of new pressure they'll be too busy with other things than optimizing/updating AOSP. Qualcomm has been the major merit behind Android's improved update rates over the time, but chaos awaits now.

7. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Competition is always good for the consumer. Qualcomm has been sleeping and has been releasing a slightly modified version of their Krait cores for 2 years now. The new A17s fro ARM can eat out on Krait (Mediatek, Rockchip), and Exynos can have the first ARMv8 SoC with A57 cores.

8. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

It's not Qualcomm's fault. It's mainly Google's for being lazy with the transition to 64bit. And you should be aware of the fact that ARM's big.LITTLE configuration lead mostly to benchmark cheating instead of distributing workloads reasonably. Qualcomm did the right thing by ditching LITTLE in this sense.

11. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

It's smart Cpu processing, not cheating where the program detects intense loads that's when it reaches maximum load. Big little was a fail due to A7 can be clocked upto maximum 2.0ghz, but Samsung relied on clocking at 1.5ghz where it started to lag. They should've gone for straight 4xA15 instead of 4x4 Cpu. That's where you would see the mighty power of A15 kicking in. Samsung made a mistake using rubbish batteries at 2800mah instead of 3500mah, due to A15 draws 9watts of power vs S800 at 4watts, that shows how weak and less powerful S800 was. Exynos always ruled the Cpu market. Even Apple were relying and using Exynos socs, but Apple had to pay Samsung patent fees to Samsung to have their logo stamped on it, instead of Exynos.

15. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

Where do this crapload come from? Why don't you just STFU if you don't know anything? A single CA15 consumes more power than three CA7s together in action. Both Apple and Qualcomm did amazing jobs in increasing power efficiency of their custom CA15-like cores, thus ditching CA7 altogether. Apple's A5, A6 were rebranded Exynos? What are you smoking? The thing you might call "knowledge" seems to be nothing else than a collection of full of garbage like AOSP. If you want to continue pretending to be a tech-savvy, learn first how ARM SoCs are licensed.

17. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Use your brain, common sense And what's your problem? People are complaining they want S805, S801, S810, they want more speed. You won't complain when Oems start to use 4000mah batteries, and having A15 clocked at 2.5ghz, when there enough battery juice. Wth is wrong with you.who gives a toss about power efficient. Do you see users give a toss when they drive V8!v10 engines, nagging about petrol. Maybe your a nagging about saving battery. Do you hear Intel i7 users ever complaining about their battery life. Lmao

13. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

I agree they DID the right thing, two years ago. The problem is that after doing it they did little more. So I'm happy that there is some more competition in the market, at the very least that will push Qualcomm to think of something again.

9. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Yeap modifying an A9 and taking half of implementation of A15 The joke thing is that it's been over a year and qualcoom even don't have an A15 yet. Still relying on old A9. While Tegra4and Samsung already have an A15. Lmao. Even Silvermont, Baytrail, Atom Cpu are much better than rubbish Snapdragon. A typical social used by every Oems.Snapdragon. There are way much better Cpus than Snapdragon.

16. JakeLee

Posts: 1021; Member since: Nov 02, 2013

Your are a complete joke of a person. It's amazing to see how much BS one can post with comments. BayTrail and Atom? Do you think they are different CPUs? It's just like Krait and SnapDragon. You suck.

4. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Subpar processor. Suicide to those who will buy it.

5. dratomic

Posts: 483; Member since: Oct 09, 2013

so finally a powerful exynos should arrive soon

10. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Exynos was always powerful and always buttkicked Snapdragon. The problem was LTE socs were not used, due to stingy Samsung didn't wanted to pay extra $15 to due to extra costs.

14. dratomic

Posts: 483; Member since: Oct 09, 2013

exynos was way better than everybody else in s2. but after that the victory was marginal. i want something that puts others in its dust

19. TheGenius

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

S5 exynos is more powerful than snapdragon.! They can put others in dust anyday.. only if samsung didn't have to produce 2 versions of their phone .. now they NEED TO under power their exynos version to match snapdragon so that users of either version wont complain.!

20. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

That's what I was trying to explain to Jakelee Exynos needed to underclock the Cpu to match Krait cores, by 700Ghz, orelse Exynos destroys kraits if clocked the same as the S801.

22. ph00ny

Posts: 2026; Member since: May 26, 2011

They would have if they could do it safely Hopefully newer fab tech/capability they can do so in the near future

23. TheGenius

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

Do some reading. It would help :)

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