Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4 might get delayed due to Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 issues
posted by Peter K. / Dec 04, 2014, 8:35 AM
But that's not the only problem that Qualcomm's 64-bit capable beast is reportedly faced against. Apart from the CPU, the Adreno 430 GPU unit is also said to be problematic due to an error in the drivers. And last, but not least, the application processor's RAM controller is allegedly causing a lot of headaches over at Qualcomm.
These issues might prove to be quite problematic for Qualcomm. It's even speculated that they might be the culprit for a production delay. This can potentially lead to a delay in the production of some of 2015's hottest and much-expected devices that will make use of the Snapdragon 810 – the Samsung Galaxy S6 and the LG G4, among others. Well, Samsung can still resort to its own Exynos chipsets, but LG is yet to release a phone with its own NUCLUN SoC, which is reportedly flawed.
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Qualcomm sort this BS out quickly!
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 8:38 AM 8
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This has happened before & Qualcomm always responds quickly. They know how to handle this. They are a HUGE corporation who work swiftly to fix any issues that come up.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 9:38 AM 3
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This is what happens when 1 company dominates.since they skipped innovation with the 801 which wasn't really a new processor just a new name Qualcomm should be ahead of schedule not behind
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 11:29 AM 1
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Samsung might go with SD808 in S6 and Exynos 7. While LG since it releases its flagship few months after Samsung might hold off for SD810.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 8:42 AM 0
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For all we know, the 808 is suffering similar issues. I wonder if anyone will bother with the 808. It's probably a great chipset, but launching it alongside the 810 makes it look obsolete before it even arrives.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 9:48 AM 0
That's a very bad solution. The GPU in 808 is adreno 418 which is lower than the 420 in sd 805. Also the CPU is cortex a53 based which will be slower than the krait in s805. They'd rather use the 805. Next gen exynos will steam roll the s808 and that will cause buyers remorse.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 4:50 PM 1
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HTC M9, this is your chance. Slap in an 805 SOC. screw 64bit
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 8:49 AM 1
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It's news like this that inches me closer everyday to saying screw it and just getting the 32bit Nexus 6
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 8:54 AM 0
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Ditch Qualcomm.. Go for Next Gen Intel - PowerVR Combo
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 8:57 AM 3
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Lg has made her oun (Odin .. House processor) its faster like Exynos7. (2.3 Quad core and 1.7 Quad core )
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 9:06 AM 0
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Only that Exynos 7 is A57/A53 and Odin (now NUCLUN) is A15/A7, making the Exynos7 the faster processor. We are yet to see how the LG SoCs actually perform, but I don't expect a lot as it's the fisrt generation they are creating.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 10:01 AM 1
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uh huh.. Well, this will at least make me even more comfortable with sticking to my Note 3 and the already legendary Snapdragon 800 chip.. the last high end non-Apple ARM chip that wasn't compromised, that made perfect sense and was fully mature. I'm waiting for its true successor with hopefully four next gen Qualcomm cores
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 9:36 AM 0
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How can Qualcomm have trouble with OFF THE SHELF PARTS. 810 uses STOCK ARM cores. There is no development needed here. More likely they want to delay to use up their massive inventory of 3 year old Krait processors.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 2:29 PM 1
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Using a core and getting that core on die is another story. Considering the market for android is 60% cheap devices, 3yr old kraits will fly into 100-200. Not to mention they have already made their money back on those old chips.
posted on Dec 05, 2014, 8:08 AM 0
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Sd810 is to powerful to put in a phone anyway. The gpu or adreno 430 has about 388 gflops of power. Thats more powerful then that beast tegra k1 gpu. Then they add cortex a57 and a53, even on 20nm its going to be a miracle for qualcomm to make sd810 a battery saver.
posted on Dec 04, 2014, 3:30 PM 0
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no it is not. close but still behind tegra K1 gpu.
posted on Dec 05, 2014, 12:12 AM 0
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that is just raw performance. there is also a matter how efficient the performance translated into real world application (which means how efficient their drivers are). look the GFXbench score (1080p offscreen test): http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp adreno 430 is to be expected around 30% faster than adreno 420. from the list the fastest adreno 420 device capable of outputting 19FPS. add 30% more performance from that number only yield around 24.7FPS. that is still behind 31FPS that nvidia shield capable of. of course qualcomm still not final with adreno 430 spec. now they know how tegra K1 perform they can try to beat that performance.
posted on Dec 05, 2014, 6:13 AM 0
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