Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4 might get delayed due to Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 issues

Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4 might get delayed due to Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 issues
It seems that the Snapdragon 810, Qualcomm's “flagship” chipset that will power some of the more-anticipated devices of the upcoming year, might reportedly get delayed due to a series of most unfortunate issues. As per certain rumors that are circulating in the air, the CPU on board the Snapdragon 810 chipset (the clock speeds of which got revealed earlier today) is experiencing overheating problems at certain voltage levels, which leads to under-performance.

But that's not the only problem that Qualcomm's 64-bit capable beast is reportedly faced against. Apart from the CPU, the Adreno 430 GPU unit is also said to be problematic due to an error in the drivers. And last, but not least, the application processor's RAM controller is allegedly causing a lot of headaches over at Qualcomm.

These issues might prove to be quite problematic for Qualcomm. It's even speculated that they might be the culprit for a production delay. This can potentially lead to a delay in the production of some of 2015's hottest and much-expected devices that will make use of the Snapdragon 810 – the Samsung Galaxy S6 and the LG G4, among others. Well, Samsung can still resort to its own Exynos chipsets, but LG is yet to release a phone with its own NUCLUN SoC, which is reportedly flawed

source: BusinessKorea via G4Games



1. FoneAddict

Posts: 263; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

Qualcomm sort this BS out quickly!

10. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

This has happened before & Qualcomm always responds quickly. They know how to handle this. They are a HUGE corporation who work swiftly to fix any issues that come up.

13. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

True. Qualcomm is a powerhouse in the industry. They will not roll over and let the competition take advantage. Better that this gets caught now than when 810 phones arrive next spring.

15. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

This is what happens when 1 company dominates.since they skipped innovation with the 801 which wasn't really a new processor just a new name Qualcomm should be ahead of schedule not behind

16. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I have more of an issue with them rebranding the S4 Pro as the 600. 800 and 801 are only a digit apart.

23. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

Lol yeah so I guess whatever comes after the 810 will still be the 810

28. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

Snapdragon 811: But this one goes to 11.

17. torr310

Posts: 1659; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Samsung is not necessary to delay if they use their own CPU.

2. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Samsung might go with SD808 in S6 and Exynos 7. While LG since it releases its flagship few months after Samsung might hold off for SD810.

11. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

For all we know, the 808 is suffering similar issues. I wonder if anyone will bother with the 808. It's probably a great chipset, but launching it alongside the 810 makes it look obsolete before it even arrives.

25. TyrionLannister unregistered

That's a very bad solution. The GPU in 808 is adreno 418 which is lower than the 420 in sd 805. Also the CPU is cortex a53 based which will be slower than the krait in s805. They'd rather use the 805. Next gen exynos will steam roll the s808 and that will cause buyers remorse.

3. kamejoko

Posts: 252; Member since: Nov 10, 2011

Current Exynos 7 (5433) work very fast and cooler than before. I think SS no need wait qualcomm S810.

4. xtroid2k

Posts: 601; Member since: Jan 11, 2010

HTC M9, this is your chance. Slap in an 805 SOC. screw 64bit

14. RaKithAPeiRiZ

Posts: 1488; Member since: Dec 29, 2011

and wait for Samsung , Sony Lg to run rings around it once their 810's are ready ?

5. Micah007

Posts: 266; Member since: Oct 09, 2014

It's news like this that inches me closer everyday to saying screw it and just getting the 32bit Nexus 6

22. DillWeed

Posts: 150; Member since: Mar 14, 2014

It's hard to guess how fast 64 bit specific applications will leave you left out.

6. aayupanday

Posts: 582; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

Ditch Qualcomm.. Go for Next Gen Intel - PowerVR Combo

19. Micah007

Posts: 266; Member since: Oct 09, 2014

I'll consider.

24. DillWeed

Posts: 150; Member since: Mar 14, 2014

you selling? 14nm- yeah, I'd buy the s**t out of that s**t. Also, gimme intel HD, I'd like to finish up playing Skyrim on a 6" dual boot phone with win 10 64 bit and android 6.

7. zachki17

Posts: 294; Member since: Sep 14, 2014

Lg has made her oun (Odin .. House processor) its faster like Exynos7. (2.3 Quad core and 1.7 Quad core )

8. jayd3n

Posts: 33; Member since: Apr 15, 2014

its NUCLUN they canceled the Odin name.

12. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Only that Exynos 7 is A57/A53 and Odin (now NUCLUN) is A15/A7, making the Exynos7 the faster processor. We are yet to see how the LG SoCs actually perform, but I don't expect a lot as it's the fisrt generation they are creating.

9. livyatan

Posts: 867; Member since: Jun 19, 2013

uh huh.. Well, this will at least make me even more comfortable with sticking to my Note 3 and the already legendary Snapdragon 800 chip.. the last high end non-Apple ARM chip that wasn't compromised, that made perfect sense and was fully mature. I'm waiting for its true successor with hopefully four next gen Qualcomm cores

18. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

isn't that Qualcomm already starts selling MDP device for SD810? if this is true then the problem might also happen to those device. maybe developer that owning the kit can make some explanation?

20. strudelz100

Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

How can Qualcomm have trouble with OFF THE SHELF PARTS. 810 uses STOCK ARM cores. There is no development needed here. More likely they want to delay to use up their massive inventory of 3 year old Krait processors.

40. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Using a core and getting that core on die is another story. Considering the market for android is 60% cheap devices, 3yr old kraits will fly into 100-200. Not to mention they have already made their money back on those old chips.

21. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

Sd810 is to powerful to put in a phone anyway. The gpu or adreno 430 has about 388 gflops of power. Thats more powerful then that beast tegra k1 gpu. Then they add cortex a57 and a53, even on 20nm its going to be a miracle for qualcomm to make sd810 a battery saver.

30. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

no it is not. close but still behind tegra K1 gpu.

32. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

Actually the tegra k1 produces 364 gflops at 950 mhz. Adreno 430 is more efficient then tegra k1, adreno 430 produces 324 gflops at 500 mhz and 388 gflops at 600 mhz. Adreno 430 also has 288 ALUs.

37. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

that is just raw performance. there is also a matter how efficient the performance translated into real world application (which means how efficient their drivers are). look the GFXbench score (1080p offscreen test): adreno 430 is to be expected around 30% faster than adreno 420. from the list the fastest adreno 420 device capable of outputting 19FPS. add 30% more performance from that number only yield around 24.7FPS. that is still behind 31FPS that nvidia shield capable of. of course qualcomm still not final with adreno 430 spec. now they know how tegra K1 perform they can try to beat that performance.

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