Murtazin: BlackBerry Venice will be an Android phone with BlackBerry services

Murtazin: BlackBerry Venice will be an Android phone with BlackBerry services
Russian blogger Eldar Murtazin swings for the fences. Sometimes he whiffs, other times he connects for a Home Run. We might not know what happens with this story right away, but here is the pitch. Last week, a rumor suggested that BlackBerry would be releasing an Android powered slider this fall. A phone codenamed the BlackBerry Venice was displayed at MWC with a top-down sliding QWERTY that harkens back to the BlackBerry Torch. Even though the Venice has been shown with BlackBerry 10 inside, Murtazin says that this will be the Android driven model coming from the Canadian company.

And there is more. In a tweet that he recently sent, Murtazin wrote "Samsung + BlackBerry = Android-smartphone with Lollipop + services BlackBerry." A look at the curved screen and the rumored specs of the BlackBerry Venice reveal similarities to the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge. Specifically, the 'Berry slider will supposedly feature a 5.1-inch screen with a 1440 x 2560 resolution, powered by an octa-core processor with a back and front camera combo of 16MP/5MP. Sound familiar?

Could Samsung be involved with BlackBerry's rumored Android device? Both companies have been working together on other projects including an encryption algorithm that BlackBerry is providing to Samsung for the KNOX secure "sandbox." Additionally, the SecuTablet is a secure slate for the enterprise that is a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 with BlackBerry's corporate OS installed. In January, there were rumors that Samsung was going to purchase BlackBerry, which were later denied.

Considering the similarity between the rumored specs for the BlackBerry Venice and seeing how closely the two companies have been working together, Murtazin's thoughts might not be totally far-fetched. An Android powered phone carrying BlackBerry's beloved physical keyboard could be just the thing to kickstart a new era for the company. And for those who love the BlackBerry OS, perhaps a model powered by the latest version of BlackBerry 10 will also be made available.

We recommend that you open up the ol' spice rack and take this story with a grain of salt. Heck, for something this big, better make it two grains.

source: (translated)



3. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

Murtazin has definitely been known to get it wrong on several occasions. I remeber when he used to "predict" things about Nokia. That being said: If this turns out to be true, that's a pretty well spec'd handset! If it gains BlackBerry more sales and market share, then I'm all for it. Originally, in a similar article here on PA, I was totally against it. I'm still not completely sold on the idea of an "Android 'Berry", to be honest. Besides the keyboard and the security, what would make Android fans buy this over their favorite Android OEM? That's my concern. Hopefully, it will sell like hotcakes. Now, put BB10 on it, and I'm all over it! But that's just my preference.

6. BobbyBuster

Posts: 854; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

Sammy + BB = EPIC FAIL

10. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

You + intelligence = EPIC FAIL.

30. -ARTE-

Posts: 80; Member since: Jun 14, 2015

Bobbybuster = Jakelee = Troll. Lmao.

11. bendgate unregistered

BobbyBuster + Trolling = EPIC FAIL

19. BobbyDigital

Posts: 2125; Member since: May 29, 2014

BobbyBuster + Groupie = WIN. You jock me like no other.

13. bendgate unregistered

Agreed. Not everything need to be Android. Plus they supports Android apps. They just need to make a full touch flagship with passport like specs and not squarish with good pricing. Plus a solid good spec'd budget beast midranger. And some good advertising. Just my wishlist.

23. Doakie

Posts: 2478; Member since: May 06, 2009

Not everything NEEDS to be Android. However the only way to even stand a chance against the iPhone is by using Android. Look at Microsoft, they have DEEP POCKETS yet they can't even give a serious third place showing. If Blackberry wants to be taken seriously they need access to the Google Play Store and it's wealth of apps. Developers aren't going to code for a third platform, look at Windows Phone...

24. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

I disagree. Android is not the only way to stand against the iPhone, especially when Samsung commands the the majority of Android sales. If that were the case, Sony and HTC wouldn't be in the trouble that they're in today, and Motorola would never have been sold. Twice. Android is obviously not the answer for everyone's woes. Even with those three aforementioned companies using Android, developers coding for it and all, they're still in the red. Even Samsung has seen a slump in sales.

25. hound.master

Posts: 1044; Member since: Feb 27, 2015

Yeah Android is a bad choice since there are all those Chinese phone with top specs and low price. I just hope that BB make a flagship full touch handsets I'm not a fan of qwerty keyboard.

28. Phonewbie

Posts: 44; Member since: Feb 15, 2015

You make some good points but it is not Android's fault that they are in the red. You can also say if they didn't have Android, they wouldn't have the small share they have now. To me, it's over for Blackberry as it stands. This may not save them but its worth a shot, even if they only get back the ones who abandoned them for iOS/Android I would call that a win.

29. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

Then who's fault is it? They are using Android. They offer comparable specs to the other Android flagships. And yet, Android fans overwhelmingly choose Samsung, leaving others like Sony and HTC to wither away. It's not over for BlackBerry in enterprise and government. Those are the most important markets for BlackBerry. Not the consumer space. Their software is what is going to really propel them forward. You have to stop thinking of BlackBerry as just a handset manufacturer. They are much more than that. BBM, BES, QNX, Movirtu, Secusmart...BlackBerry has many cards left to play.

37. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

When Samsung, HTC, LG do WP phones and they barely make a bleep.....Android is the only chance right now. Motorola was bought because I believe Google didnt want Moto to start suing ANdroid OEMs (there was a rumor about that happening right before Google bought them.) Google sold Motorola because they didnt want the heat of having a OEM and doing a Nexus with them or chowing preferantial treatment. (which is wild because isnt that what MS is doing with Nokia?) They also sold Motorola to a company that gave Motorola a chance to grow. Android isnt the answer? Then what else is? We are heading into 2016....Android launched as a baby in 2008 and is dominating the marketshare charts, popularity since 2010. Thats 5+ years running at the top. They did what no one else could when competing with the iPhone. If Android isnt the answer...I would really like to know what is.....

38. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

Clearly Android isn't the answer if only Samsung is making money using it. And even their sales have slumped the last couple of quarters. I don't understand why Android fans think that Android is the "savior" OS. It isn't. Google bought Motorola for the patents. Period. When they couldn't make any money with Motorola, they sold it off. Androids growth is due to every OEM and their momma (just about) using it. It's FREE. If it weren't, you wouldn't see so many Android OEM's. But is ANYONE making any MONEY with Android besides SAMSUNG? No. And even their profits have been falling now. I don't know why you keep on bringing up Window Phone, because I haven't mentioned it one time, nor do I think BlackBerry should go the Windows route. BlackBerry needs to stay with BB10 and continue making handsets with that OS. They need to continue to focus on their strengths: Software and services, government and enterprise, and continue developing QNX. They can continue to sell BlackBerry's to the niche market of consumers that want them until they shore up enough cash to make a good push in the consumer market again. The ONLY way they should do Android is make a separate, low end handset. The only place Android is growing now is at the low end. BY NO MEANS should they dump BB10 for Android.

39. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

It isnt the savior.....but what other option is there? Make no money at all? It isnt about Android fans thinking Android is the savoir...but logic. Lets see where any of the Android OEMS would be if they only did WP or tries some other OS like Bada, uBuntu, etc. Right now Android is the logical choice. Not fanboyism....just logic. "Google bought Motorola for the patents. Period. When they couldn't make any money with Motorola, they sold it off. " You do realize when the Moto G was launched...Moto was still part of Google right? For that phone to be the best selling phone in Moto's history...I believe Google saw some money from that. Or could have. Like I wasnt just for the patents. It was to stop some boneheaded decision by the then CEO or whoever he was. That former exec also saw the release of several too similar Moto phones that kinda hurt Moto.

42. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

What makes you think BlackBerry would make money with Android? Does Motorola? Sony? HTC? No. Should BlackBerry make cheap Android phones with razor thin profit margins? No. That is not a sustainable business plan. What you're saying about Android being the only logical choice is pure fanboyism. As I said, hardly anyone makes money on Android besides Samsung. Maybe LG. Pull the blinders from your eyes. BlackBerry makes a profit on every handset they sell. Their ASP's were UP last quarter. Not everyone wants Android, either. Android doesn't have the certificates necessary to be used by the DoD and the military. Heads of state DON'T use Android due to it not being anywhere near as secure as BB10. Why do you think Samsung went to BlackBerry to help make Knox secure? Why do you think Google went to BlackBerry and other MDM providers to secure their own enterprise offering? BlackBerry going Android would mean that BlackBerry would have to give up all of those contracts from organizations that rely on security first. Why should they do that, when security is what BlackBerry has ALWAYS been about?

40. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

And how does Google selling Moto to Lenovo and not entering into a partnership with Lenovo mean Google couldnt make money with Moto? I believe Google was trying to avoid anti trust lawsuits. Making money wasnt really the problem IMO. It was win/win for Motorola either way because they were turning the ship around after the release of the Moto G. Google also sold off the cable/set top box division of Motorola. How much you wanna bet that Google TV is finding its way into those set top boxes soon? If not already there? Or in smart TV's? All without any anti trust issues. Never underestimate a company's way to make money off a division, dept. they sell. And please dont sound like the other mis informed folks that claim Samsung is the only one making money with Android. If that really was the case.....the others woulda been jumped all in with WP. Last time I checked they are all in with Android.

41. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

Google bought Motorola for the patents. That's all they really wanted from Motorola, just like Microsoft only wanted Nokia for its phone division and access to its patents. I'm not concerned with cable/set top boxes. You're definitely speaking to the wrong person if you're referring to me as misinformed. Between Samsung and Apple, about 93% of the profits in smartphones goes to them. How much money are the other Android vendors really making after that? The Chinese vendors have razor thin profit margins. Motorola, HTC and Sony are all still in the red. LG is the only one that made a LITTLE BIT of money. They wouldn't all jump to Windows due to lack of apps and developer support. Also because of the locked down nature of Windows vs the freedom to do whatever you want with Android.

32. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2528; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I was looking at some other sites that posted the article and in the comment section of one I saw this: "Sources, have been reliable in the past, are telling me that there is NO android model, however the slider will have 10.4 which will have fully functional Google Play Services so Android apps will run on BB10 as desigend. Lets hope that they are right. If I wanted Android I would by a Galaxy. Like my Z30 way too much." We shall see what the reality turns out to be.

33. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

Agreed. I hope they are right. As you said, if I wanted Android, I'd by a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge. Or a Note 4. Or any one of the many Android vendors handsets.

7. sam_tek

Posts: 105; Member since: Feb 18, 2011

Beauty of Android + Security of BB + PKB of BB + Spec Demon of Samsung = Too good to be true! But if it were to pan out, it'd be my dream phone! edit: my dream would still pitch for a BB10 OS (although I miss Android in a few ways)

8. BobbyBuster

Posts: 854; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

What beauty?

9. sam_tek

Posts: 105; Member since: Feb 18, 2011

I guess it's not for you then, eh? No problem!

12. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

You must really be eager to get banned again, JakeLee aka Happysocks.

14. bendgate unregistered

It amazes me that he's not banned even after 493 ret@rded posts.

16. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

I know, right? BobbyLackluster should have been out of here a long time ago.

31. -ARTE-

Posts: 80; Member since: Jun 14, 2015

What beauty does iOs have? A subpar Toys-R-Us kiddish platform, made for OAP and little kids.

15. jellmoo

Posts: 2679; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

While interesting, I'd still prefer to see a Blackberry handset running BB 10, but having access to the Play Store and Play Services. The OS is such a delight to use, I think that just bridging the app gap and having those baked in Google services is all they really need.

17. meanestgenius

Posts: 22865; Member since: May 28, 2014

Totally agree. +1.

18. Elijah29

Posts: 6; Member since: Jun 03, 2015

Pretty nice looking render. I'm banking on this to be a rumor though to boost the stock up a bit for BB again.

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