Huawei confident that Kirin 980 will be better than Apple's A12 Bionic processor

Huawei confident that Kirin 980 will be better than Apple's A12 Bionic processor
Apple introduced its next-generation A12 Bionic chip less than two weeks ago, and one of the company's rivals, Huawei is already contesting its performance. When Apple announced the A12 Bionic SoC (system-on-chip), it said that it's the smartest and most powerful processor to ever be included inside an iPhone and that it's the first 7nm chip to be available on the market.

Now, Huawei is pretty confident that its new Kirin 980 chipset will be better than Apple's A12 Bionic processor, said an official during a keynote held in Dubai. The Chinese handset maker has been working on the Kirin 980, its first 7nm chipset, for about three years now, focusing on three major aspects: Power and Efficiency, Intelligence, and Connectivity.

Even though both A12 Bionic and Kirin 980 chipsets include the same number of transistors – 6.9 billion, Huawei says that its processor is 75% faster than the previous generation, while the GPU should be “only” 46% faster.

When it comes to power efficiency, the Kirin 980 is 57% more efficient than Huawei's previous top-tier processor, whereas the GPU is 178% more efficient. Not to mention that Kirin 980 will be the world's first CPU to support LTE Cat.21 with peak download speeds on 1.4Gbps, Huawei claims.

It's true that Huawei compared the Kirin 980 with the previous generation of Kirin chipsets, but even so, the new SoC does seem very powerful and efficient on paper. We'll see how it fares against Apple's A12 Bionic once the Mate 20 hits the shelves.

source: TechRadar

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46 Comments

1. peace247 unregistered

meh...845 in poco already defeating ip xs in speed tests... not that i like those kind of tests but still.

7. AmashAziz

Posts: 2873; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

That in no way means the 845 is more powerful than A12. The latter is arguably the most powerful chip on the market right now. It's the different os, optimization, lack of the need of power, etc. that allow the poco f1 to win. And truthfully, winning is all that matters. But I am just saying don't base your conclusions on these speed tests only.

15. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

*grab popcorn*

8. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Poco it’s crap disposable phone that comes with serious touchscreen issue.

12. Papa_Ji

Posts: 779; Member since: Jun 27, 2016

22. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

https://youtu.be/74VP5nucApw By the way try out the phone and touch screen are bad keyboard to slow compare it to Samsung Galaxy, lg g and v serious.

30. Papa_Ji

Posts: 779; Member since: Jun 27, 2016

This may be defective unit... I have used Poco ... That was perfectly fine.

41. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Most like defective unit.. All those phone reviewers should find this bug, and write it in their reviews if their units also affected. But I haven't seen any tech news write about this issue.

13. cmdacos

Posts: 3818; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Yet a this crap disposable phone competes with the highest end iPhone in usage speed tests. These tests are subjective of course but if the A12 is so phenomenal and far ahead of the competition, then something is inherently wrong with Apple software.

16. AmashAziz

Posts: 2873; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Possibly. And also, the software and apps might not be using all the power of the A12 at one due to which we aren't witnessing the iPhone crushing the competition. Except in 4k video exporting

24. cmdacos

Posts: 3818; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

We all know how often we render and export 4k videos...

26. Fred3

Posts: 342; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

The reason why Poco haves so many issue cause their company buys the bad batch of everything and that's why they're able to make it so cheap.

39. drifter77

Posts: 400; Member since: Jun 12, 2015

I bought the 6/128GB Poco a week ago and it performs brilliantly. No touch screen issues, no bleeding, and no keyboard lag... in fact no lag whatsoever, no matter how many apps you throw at it. Considering you don't own one I believe these might be issues with the Indian version, not global. Overall great package with latest SoC, huge storage and big battery that last two days.

21. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

No it doesn't. Phones that beat the iPhone X do it thanks to their better ram management, but none of them beat the iPhone in the 1st round, which showcases which phones load apps faster. Still, for me, I don't base my purchases on phones opening apps few milliseconds than another phone.

31. yalokiy

Posts: 884; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

32. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

The iPhone was beating the S9+ with 4 apps ahead until they reached the video editing app that majority of us don't even use. If it wasn't for this specific app, the iPhone would have won the 1st round by 10+ seconds.

34. yalokiy

Posts: 884; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

Ok, but in second link, OP6 was pretty much even and got to video editing app first.

36. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I honestly didn't notice that there is a second link, I'll make sure I also watch it when I get home.

2. OneLove123

Posts: 792; Member since: Aug 28, 2018

Of course it should, since the A12 is only a minimal upgrade over the A11.

3. DolmioMan

Posts: 291; Member since: Jan 08, 2018

Yeah but the previous generation Kirin was released as a competitor to the snapdragon 835/ Exynos 8895/A10. Huawei skipped a year so they damn well better have huge improvements.

11. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

And it's kinda overused too. They use it on their $2000 Mate RS, down to $300 Honor Play. They better make a nice performance gap between this new flagship and that Kirin 970 powered $300 smartphone

5. japkoslav

Posts: 1373; Member since: Feb 19, 2017

Of course, they will defeat A12, with their +100% power in benchmarks cheating :-D

14. cmdacos

Posts: 3818; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Recent benchmarking comparisons show the iPhone eks cutting resources during benchmark tests where the screen is darkened pointing to throttling resources going on. Seems new but multiple reviewers saw the same. Seems just as shady to me.

18. Aruminiumaian

Posts: 209; Member since: Jul 22, 2017

Screen dimming occurs whenever the phone gets hot or the display is continuously driven at maximum brightness for a while. I have iPhone 6s and when I'm using it with maxed out screen brightness, I occasionally see the brightness level gradually dropping then going back to normal again after few minutes.

28. cmdacos

Posts: 3818; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Right. So loads aren't handled effectively if resources are cut which is my point.

40. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1161; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

But it can also be used to redistribute power to the CPU and GPU under heavy load. Apple's A series performance cores are known to use a lot of power when running at 100% and are directly responsible for killing the batteries in the older models because of this. Dimming the screen to free up energy for the CPU would technically constitute cheating as well, since you deliberately limit one function's power availability to boost another's.

35. yalokiy

Posts: 884; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

You can't sideload anticheat versions of benchmark apps on iphone, so apple may cheat as much as it wants.

6. AmashAziz

Posts: 2873; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

That is a stupid logic mate....

4. Budhainthemood

Posts: 64; Member since: Mar 03, 2018

Chinese chip is like Swedish beach equipment - absurd.

10. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

You mean bench lol.

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