After Microsoft, it's Nokia's turn to scare the Android masses over the Google-Motorola deal

After Microsoft, it's Nokia's turn to scare the Android masses over the Google-Motorola deal
After Microsoft's Andy Lees said the other day that Windows Phone is now the only "equal opportunity"  platform, referring to the Google-Motorola deal, it is a turn of the company that actually stand to enjoy preferable treatment by Redmond to chime in.

Nokia's CEO Stephen Elop, speaking at a seminar in Helsinki, tried to make the other Android manufacturers worried in his turn. "If I happened to be someone who was an Android manufacturer or an operator, or anyone with a stake in that environment, I would be picking up my phone and calling certain executives at Google and say 'I see signs of danger ahead'", said Mr Elop.

The only thing left to add was that Windows Phone can welcome them all in its warm hugging embrace, wipe their tears, and feed them some Mango. Nokia's CEO avoided that temptation, but didn't miss the opportunity to pat himself on the back:

"The very first reaction I had was very clearly the importance of the third ecosystem and the importance of the partnership that we announced on February 11, it is more clear than ever before", he said, referring to the premature Nokia Windows Phone announcement, which made the company report a loss last quarter from its handset division.

It is still too early to tell how Google will treat Motorola, but the scouts are already circling the rest of the Android makers to try and lure them more into the Windows Phone realm. If some of it happens, we might really have three smartphone platforms in a viable competition, despite that Android seems poised to remain the leader by a large margin, unless Google decides to do something silly, which is highly doubtful.

source: Reuters



1. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

Haha, mr. elop is so funny. But he is partly right, the manufacturers should switch from Android to other OSes now, like MeeGo WebOS (and of course bada for Samsung). But They should not switch to WP7 as MS probably will do the same thing as Google has done.

3. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Dude, Google hasn't done ANYTHING yet. They haven't completed the purchase, they haven't shown any preference to Moto, they haven't shown an unwillingness to work with other manufacturers, they haven't done a single solitary thing to even HINT Motorola will be anything but a source of patents to help secure the Android OS users from litigation. Sure, owning Motorola will change the landscape some. It may make the OS Google owns better in that they do not have to worry about violations as much. I am very much a W7 fan, and even I can see this is just P.R. from a company that wants to show stability by stirring the pot and making the landscape look more unstable than it is. Why not wait until we see how Google uses the Motorola purchase before we worry about bailing on them. Sheesh.

5. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

Google wont spend 12,5 billion $$$ to buy Moto and only use their patents. Everyone knows that Google will start making their own hardware. It's a no brainer.

7. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

1 I agree that Elliott its spilling BS here. You don't "partner with other" to get an even field. That just showed how much of an Hippocratic person he turn out to be.... if he was on another company that company would be already broke..... 2 well 12 big ones but when you check it compared with other bids done by Google you see something interesting that makes some things less likely

11. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

No, really, it is not. As between 1.0 and 1.5 Billion dollars in add streams into Google's pockets every year directly from Android, which is PROFIT after the development and support they put into pour into it, there is NO WAY Google stops or even slows down their support for Samsung, LG, HTC, Kyrocera, or any of the other of dozens of sources that produce that revenue stream. What would be the advantage??? They can leave Motorola completely alone, and they would recoup the 12.5 Bill purchase price with a few years. Motorola is not loosing money in their mobility division, it is just not turning enough profit for them to recoup losses from operating expenses over the life of the division. In return, Google gets a blanket of stability for the rest of Androids producing life they do not have now. THAT is the no brainer.

17. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

Motorola could end up meaning money for google in other ways that do not involve trying to outdo manufacturers here is an example

31. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

peter, that is EXACTLY what google did. if you look at the other article that was just posted about the patents for sale, google payed the exact amount of the average price per patent to buy motorola. As even the article states "google bought a patent library and got a cell manufacturer for free". everyone knows not a darn thing. Google said they were gonna keep it fair, and unlike other companies (cough cough apple) they are relatively good at sticking to their word. If they have a more direct influence in motorola handset building or not doesn't change the fact that they've sworn it will have zero impact on any other facet of Android other than a huge defense shield.

23. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

Boy, that Bada Kool-Aid has you drunk, kid.

2. Mehha

Posts: 26; Member since: May 25, 2011

Wow, man i liked the challenging tone of Mr.Elop :)

4. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

You can criticize his plans, but one thing is for sure: He does not lack confidence. He is going all in on Windows, and if he is going to fail, it will be fighting all the way down. No going out with a whimper.

6. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

I very much do believe Elop will go down as the worst Ceo Nokia has had in history. Nokia's stock gone down more than 50 % in 4 months since elop announced WP7 was the way to go. And Elop has been killing Symbian sales, and it seems that he does not want to sell much of the N9 either... I just bought the Nokia X7 yesterday to check it out (no, i have not forsaken bada, i'm just trying out the X7) and i think that it is the best Symbian phone so far. _Had Elop not killed symbian the X7 would have been selling som smör i solsken (that's swedish and means selling like butter in sunshine. And has the meaning that it is selling really, really good).

10. HTCiscool

Posts: 449; Member since: Jul 16, 2011

Sorry Peter but the reason the X7 isn't selling is that it uses outdated parts and software. Where I live you can get the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play and Neo for the same price as the X7 and I'd rather take one of those instead :( Sorry but hell, I'd rather take the LG Optimus Black over the X7 (Both cost the same) which is made of plastic.

12. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

If W7 doesn't sell extremely well, you are right, Peter. Elop will be out and Nokia will be a has been.If W7 runs like a leopard to good sales and Nokia's profits improve without having to spend billions on the software ecosystem, than your wrong. We will know in about 12 - 18 months.

24. Eingild

Posts: 203; Member since: Apr 19, 2011

Leopards don't run. They sprint. Just sayin'.

29. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Okay, my bad. Back to Animal Channel 101 for me!! :-D

8. pong unregistered

Even there is MeeGo or WebOS or Bada, Unfortunately I think manufacturers will now look into Windows due to those stupid patents. Google may be buying those Motorola patents to protect their ecosystem but looks like it back fired somehow. Manufacturers need a troll to fend of another troll

9. MattKind unregistered

If Google decides to use android for there sole products ( i think in near future they will have there own smartphones ) , they leave HTC and Samsung behind . If this happens Windows phone 7 will gain a lot more . This is HD-DVD vs Blu ray all over again

13. Mehha

Posts: 26; Member since: May 25, 2011

People here are giving their premature conclusions with lots of IFs & BUTs. I, on the other hand feel that there's definetly a third Eco system emerging in the near future 'cause people are starting to feel the need of it, Android's boom has just started to calm down a bit. So i strongly beleive that WP will mark its point and really will stand against not android but iOS.

32. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

calmed down? they add 550k subscribers+ a day.. every month the number goes up. the only ecosystem that is cooling is iOS which is barely maintaining marketshare when its not losing it.

14. Roberto Lim unregistered

Mr. Elop should just release a WP7 phone NOW. With partners like Nokia (taking their sweet time), it is no wonder MS is looking at other manufacturers.

15. digicon

Posts: 121; Member since: Aug 11, 2011

Who would stay on Android's bandwagon when they just bought one of your handset competitors ? It seems the manufacturers split OS's on their phones(Android and WP7), as well as making their own OS, just incase something like this were to happen. Motorola's name will certainly change to Google(or Android). If not, they will have to sway other manufacturers to stay. Otherwise you're going to have another BlackBerry phone, BlackBerry OS; Apple phone, iOS; and now Google phone, Android OS . What about that !

21. dandirk

Posts: 187; Member since: Aug 04, 2011

Because there is little Google actually benefits from doing so. Google knows just as MS knew back in the 90's market share is king. Especially so since Google makes money off Ads. There is no way hardware sales would re-coupe lost ad sales by closing their OS ecosystem like Apple. Sure you could make an argument that Google just "used" their partners to get the market share and will close up the ecosystem when done. It could happen but really would that be any worse then paying for MS licensing an an ALREADY closed system. Me I would take that chance, I would rather risk loosing, then just admit defeat.

16. TKFox007

Posts: 303; Member since: Nov 02, 2010

So says the guy who's running Nokia into the ground...

20. QUAD-CORE unregistered

Exactly what I was thinking. Nokia was about to go out of business! They just had to force one of their CEOs (Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo) to step down because they were doing such a s**tty job. They had to partner with Microsoft as a last effort! And they don't even have Windows Phone out yet! They have been making cell phones for decades and have not been able to innovate to the degree of Microsoft, Google or Apple. What does that say about them?

18. JayRaj

Posts: 54; Member since: Oct 31, 2010

Guess there's a difference between a buyout and a strategic partnership. So we can't compare Google-Moto deal with Nokia-MS partnership. What WP7 will get from Nokia, will be available to all manufacturers (but we are about to see what Moto will get from the buyout). The scene will be same when Microsoft goes for hardware manufacturing or buys some manufacturer. Until then its a different story. . .

22. dandirk

Posts: 187; Member since: Aug 04, 2011

Competitors are just trying to put doubt into the market. Steal the lime light, slow down Google etc.

25. shaider unregistered

Elop is talking like he represents Microsoft and not Nokia.

26. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

I think this could be a big turn in the mobile phone industry. Samsung, LG and HTC arent' going to want all their eggs in one basket now because of the threat of Motorola getting preferential treatment with android. We'll see more investment in Windows 7 and I actually do think Samsung will push bada more while other manufacturers may look into making their own OS as well. This will make the cell industry marketshare a lot more balanced and competitive which makes the consumer the winner. Right now iOS and android have about 68% market share in the US.

30. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

With the exception of Apple, I can't see the advantage of trying to keep software and hardware under one roof. The mobile industry is changing so fast that Android saved so many companies tons of cash in the development of the software. It is the direction the winds are blowing: Google, Microsoft provide the OS, the manufacturers provide the hardware. I really think Blackberry will have to make this kind of decision soon. They cannot keep up doing both. Nokia was the largest device maker in the world, and they couldn't do it. Bada is fine for Samsung to develop as a side OS. But it is Android that drives their profits. HP will either open WeBOS to manufacturers, or simply use it for PC's, laptops, and Tablets. As I said earlier, I realize Apple is the exception right now. But, Google will not turn away from the huge cash from supplying Android to who wants it.

33. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

agreed, google only loses money if they try to push motorola phones. Google makes money off of advertisement, not software. Can it make some side money on hardware now too? absolutely. But the biggest player in the android game right now is samsung followed by HTC with moto a distant 3rd. Only a retard like Elop would push hard on a 3rd place guy and piss off the 2 guys that contribute the most to the ecosystem. This is nothing but propaganda and scare tactics. Nothing is changing. The last thing Google is going to do is piss off the guys that make 3/4ths of their phones. Motorola is a shield and nothing more.

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