Windows 8 expectations 'overwhelmingly negative' with suppliers
The reason? On his travels to Asia meeting with suppliers, White reports on overwhelmingly negative sentiment. After October and November’s ramp up in device manufacturing, facilities are expected to go nearly idle in December.
Expectations are actually for late 2013 to be the time when Windows 8 might start getting more traction. The report is mostly centered on PC shipments, but this general sentiment carries over to mobile devices running on Microsoft’s platform as well. Check out the report below:
source: Business Insider
14. DetroitTech posted on 15 Oct 2012, 10:21 9 3
The OS or the post? As a IT professional for over 10 years heavily invested in M$ products I personally think Windows 8 RT is just Windows Phone on a big screen. Kind of like the iPad. What annoys me(but I understand) is most people aren't really technical and don't think the need for a REAL operating system like Windows 7 is needed anymore. LOL. Do people realize you can NOT make an app for Android or iOS on Android or IOS?!!! LOL. Cut out Windows and OSX and you've got no more apps. HAHAHAHA.
Also in the business world, the world that actually drives the economy, full blown operating system are still the only way to operate. How the hell are you going to run your in house mail servers on a Transformer Prime? How? You're not. How the hell is the person in accounting going to balance s**t for a huge corp on an iPad. LOL. "What, can't they use "Mint"". Frickin hilarious.
With that said I think Windows 8 is a weak attempt at trying to stay "relative". There is no start button on the pro version. What?!!! Every single user(non technical) who upgrades to Windows 8 from Windows 7 is going to freak out. LOL. Every single one...This was a stupid move on M$ part. IMHO.
16. pokharkarsaga posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:02 1 0
Windows 8 looks like the combination of windows phone 8 & windows 7.it will take time for windows 8 to be stable in the market,till then windows 7 will eat windows XP usage share.
25. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:39 0 1
i are right it normaly happens when something is changed from the ground up to total new but in time it becomes new trend so people today are crying why why this new home screen year latter they wont bother crying over it, it is simply mind doesnot except new stuff on spot
28. speckledapple posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:43 3 1
Thankfully there are many people that which disagree with you and for good reason. You look at it from a view of an IT professional so your priorities are automatically different. What you fail to realize is that though business sales are important they are no longer the driving force in the market. The consumer market is. And for that market this OS will make sense and provide some great enhancements and shakeup to a two part universe.
The things you mention from a business perspective are just the more specific things that still require direct computer interaction that is beyond something like an iPad, which is by definition a device that consumes not so much creates.
Win 8 is built for consumption but it is also built with creation in mind and that is where it will flourish. So, an analyst talking to PC makers about their shipments, which is not a surprise since they have been struggling anyway, is not so much an issue of Microsoft and Win 8 but an issue for those pc guys. This is probably why Microsoft has decided to create their own hardware because these vendors seem to be incapable of holding it together and producing something that is compelling.
32. Rydsmith posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:49 6 0
I'm sorry but I'm going to call bull on this one. As an IT professional you typed like a late teens individual that has a need to be heard on the internet.
Back to the matter on hand. You realize that in Window 8 you have the original desktop environment and that the "Metro UI" (or whatever they choose to call it) is really just a glorified start menu.
For example, when you start typing the choices appear instantly, such that you can look in your explorer for the file, or launch an app with that term searched.
I honestly do not believe that you have used or tried Windows 8 and instead you're looking at it, talking out of your ass and just using a large amount of exclamation points (which are the crutch of the English language) in order to validate your opinion.
45. maxican16 posted on 15 Oct 2012, 15:58 1 0
Haha, was thinking the same things. If he truly has invested in MS, he better hope he's wrong.
42. lubba posted on 15 Oct 2012, 13:13 4 0
Have you used windows8 IT guy? f**k I love it! Faster and much easier. So simple to use once you get the hang of it. Move with the times IT guy. Big change doesn't happen over night. It will happen. Frankly it does not Take IT brains to use w8. And start button is not necessary.
2. VJo003 posted on 15 Oct 2012, 08:33 9 4
I don't subscribe to this...
As a consumer I feel Windows 8 has already built lot of "traction"
15. Commentator posted on 15 Oct 2012, 10:26 3 2
As a consumer who obviously follows tech trends fairly closely and knows quite a bit about Windows 8 even before it launches. Unfortunately, that kind of consumer is in the vast minority. I'd wager that, as DetroitTech posted above, many mainstream consumers are going to have a WTF moment when they first try out Windows 8.
47. lubba posted on 15 Oct 2012, 17:13 0 0
MS has taken the first steps to change, a change for the future of the new millennia. Others remain stagnant, two reasons, money and fear. I predict that many will migrate towards change than stagnation.
52. Commentator posted on 15 Oct 2012, 23:00 0 0
"Millennium." And it's not new any more, we're 12+ years into it. And I doubt the future outlined by Windows 8 will last a thousand years. Maybe ten tops.
Anyhow, I don't disagree that it's a welcome change that Microsoft needs to make, but they seem to be placing all their eggs in the tablet market when a huge desktop presence remains. Using Windows 8 on a laptop is a nightmare (at least the pre-production version.) I dread any time I have to move my cursor to the bottom corner of the screen and bumble my way through gigantic boxes that, let's face it, have no business being on a point-and-click, non-touchscreen device. I use the classic home screen 99% of the time.
3. raunak posted on 15 Oct 2012, 08:42 17 7
this is crap...everyone i know likes w8/wp8 and is exited over it
23. Ruckus posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:31 0 0
I can't say everyone I know is excited (my grandma for one with her tracfone lol) about wp8, but it does have a huge increase in excitement over wp7. I expect big things from this os in the next couple of years to come. With u.s. carriers supporting it now (like Verizon), it will get a much bigger foothold.
5. ilia1986 posted on 15 Oct 2012, 09:13 3 3
I think that with the global shift to mobile lightweight smart platforms - the Windows (And WP8) ecosystem will be just another PC plarform - delegated to a niche role - the same niche role iOS and BB10 will be delegated to - as the latter two are closed platforms, while the former is a semi-closed -to-be-completely-closed one. Platforms like Linux and mostly Android of course will have the dominant market share - people will want the most for their cash - and an OS without the ability to adapt to changes to the environment without official firmware updates simply doesn't cut it in 2012/2013.
11. FireDragon posted on 15 Oct 2012, 10:03 4 1
I am an Android user (and dealing with it, really), while it is slightly better than other available jokes called mobile OSes, (I haven't use WindowsPhone yet but I am including 7.5 in those joke OSes however I hope WP8 would be better) but saying that Android is the future for full computing, no I don't think so.
It will be staying for long time that's for sure, but if Windows start hitting the right slots, consumers will take it on, for tablets. Price yes would be the issue
27. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:42 0 0
he didnt got idea what this article was about let him live in ignorance
26. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:41 0 0
ROLF u gonna run android on desktop PC well u are wellcome to go ahead with it, it will be more painful then slow death. windows is heaven on desktop android will be hell just like linux isnt as easy the windows is.
7. Snoobab posted on 15 Oct 2012, 09:30 1 0
Sorry what??? I'm not a huge MS fan but since when has a new Windows release never done well? It's the world's default OS. Pffttt analysts...
9. TylerGrunter posted on 15 Oct 2012, 09:41 0 0
Either you are really young or have a bad memory... Have you ever heard or Windows Millenium edition? What about Windows Vista?
I had to suffer both, with Vista I just uninstalled it and installed a copy of XP I had lying around.
24. Snoobab posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:36 0 0
Totally agree, not every release of Windows has been great but they've all sold by the truckload. Windows 8 will be no different.
31. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:47 1 0
lol u still dont get it even millium vista failed windows is still running on more PC is the world then other OS windows7 was the answer to vista flaws and XP always ruled. and sure linux is the not up to the mark to challenge windows for end user not advanced users like developers and apple MacOS cant run on all systems except their own which are way to over priced so in the end good or not windows is the only option in the wolrd that tops everything
10. rusticguy posted on 15 Oct 2012, 10:00 0 1
WIN98 was the begining ...
And to recap a few others:
8. rusticguy posted on 15 Oct 2012, 09:33 1 4
Look at how IIS has fallen on netcraft survey over the years as compared to open source web servers. That's also indicative of how LINUX as OS has maintained stronghold despite all FUD by M$ and also a campaign to fool the innocent way back on around 2006 (IIRC) when they ahd some deal with godaddy to have parked domains pointing to Windows servers so that world buys into argument that M$ is gaining popularity and that time they suddenly shot in the 30% range within a month or so.
As that scam subsided the real pricture is that now it is15% of market share on web --
Closed source can never win against Open soruce come what may as closed source is based on foundations of being evil (call it monopoly if you want to) right from Day one. M$ has sponsored many seminars and researches on how M$ is more secure than LINUX but to no avail :)
33. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:51 0 0
in any case windows is better in many ways the eaisiness and simplicity or windows is totally unavailable in linux
17. darac posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:03 0 6
Haha.. well, I will enjoy watching yet another reality check for dumb windows and Nokia fans..I think that unthinkable will finally start to materialize in the next few years - Linux turning into a serious desktop alternative, and eventually taking over
30. Rydsmith posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:44 2 1
"Linux turning into a serious desktop alternative, and eventually taking over"
That made literally laugh. If the biggest complain about Windows 8 is the lack of a start menu, then please explain to me how Linux is gaining traction with its lack of start menu.
Maybe you're the one in dire need of a reality check here =\
38. darac posted on 15 Oct 2012, 12:51 0 2
It's not about the Ul, but the way Microsoft is heading - more and more closed system.
In case you missed, OEMs and many software developers (even gaming studios )are already seriously starting to mention Linux support
40. darac posted on 15 Oct 2012, 12:57 0 1
34. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:57 1 0
lol linux is a complex crap no new user can get use to unless forced to learn :\ in atlest some months and lack of many many cool stuff of windows and softwares that make life eaiser. so windows is parhaps far more better option and who say it is not available for free u know Crack it
20. lyndon420 posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:15 1 0
Won't be long before we can do everything on Android that (up until now) had to be done on a pc. Google will find a way, because they want happy customers, and they actually care about what they want.
36. chaoticrazor posted on 15 Oct 2012, 12:17 2 0
ok although i like android, you cant think for one second android will end windows and desktops etc android isnt a all in one OS for everything
And although google do show more effort in giving the customers more no company actually care about you, they want ways to make money.
21. Nathan_ingx posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:16 2 0
I tried a beta version of the 8 and yes, i freaked out the first time to find that there was no start button. I just didn't know where to go...
I was lost...but got used to it. It's not so difficult if you know where to find what.
22. tgtftw posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:27 0 2
That will be the biggest issue. The average user will just stop using the product if they cannot navigate it. Look at the older generation who is afraid they are going to break something if they click on the wrong icon, the majority of folks will not dive deep into a OS trying to find/do everything possible on it. About as far as the average W8 user is going to get is choosing the big E to get to the internet because thats about the only logo they are going to recognize.
35. haseebzahid posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:58 1 0
i think to learn windows8 will take less then a day but to learn linux u need a month :P
41. rusticguy posted on 15 Oct 2012, 13:01 2 2
This is going to be easier than WIN8:
51. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 15 Oct 2012, 22:26 0 0
Thank for the link, bookmarked for later consumption to see if it's a direction I want to go.
54. haseebzahid posted on 16 Oct 2012, 03:00 0 0
in windows8 u need to know the write location and gestures in linux u must know whole lot of commands with a lot of /t /x -t -l and God knows what else and s**t likes these i bet no one is gonna like this for normal usage
48. papss posted on 15 Oct 2012, 17:19 1 0
so you honestly think W8 will be too difficult for the average user that has had W7 and prior Windows products? A company that is software based firm? Now I know people are reaching. Stop with all the doom for M$ and just understand they are going to be the major player like always in the pc market and may do well with WP8 too.Linux is s**t or it would have taken off 10 years ago. Only a VERY select few want completely open source. As you can see the vast majority prefers a more structured closed source. How is Apple doing with there structure? I just curious..
29. speckledapple posted on 15 Oct 2012, 11:44 1 0
All I know is that I already have this OS and i certainly plan to download it for every computer I own when its released and utilize it in every way I know; especially for my business.
37. mihaidenis posted on 15 Oct 2012, 12:18 0 6
Windows 8 ceetainly will be like
Sorry,like Elop for Nokia.
Anyway,here's the story
when Elop will be dead:
Elop:God I'm here.
God:Who are you?
Elop:I'm the guy who
Elop:I'm here to serve you,
I can be your CEO.
God:And with Steve what
I'm suppose to do?
Elop:Send him to...
55. haseebzahid posted on 16 Oct 2012, 03:01 0 0
lame story and doesnt have any point u know u better start making sense
46. CWBAlfredo posted on 15 Oct 2012, 16:09 0 1
Call me wierd but I tried the windows 8 consumer preview and hated it but I LOVE windows phone 8.
49. Paximos posted on 15 Oct 2012, 21:08 0 0
Soooooo, you seriously expect this guy to tell the truth...We all know Brian White!!!!
50. Wissenschaft posted on 15 Oct 2012, 21:52 1 0
i have already been using windows 8 on my PC. Its a revolution. The tiles make you feel alive and connected. and compared to the dead icons on Android OS and IOS, Windows 8 is way beyond
Every icon is like a live widget, and its beautiful
53. pikapowerize (banned) posted on 16 Oct 2012, 02:06 0 1
it is really difficult to love the new windows especially that tiles and everything!!
but im not saying that its ugly... but i found it weird... its really optimize for touch devices... how about the users who love to use mouse pad?
i like the interface of Windows Mobile better! :)