TSMC reportedly turns down Apple and Qualcomm's $1 bln bids for exclusive chip foundry capacity
1. andro. posted on 30 Aug 2012, 05:20 10
They know for certainty that making a deal with apple will not only lose them their flexibility but would make them literally chained by the groin to the floor by domineering Apple. It makes good sense for them in the long run
3. ph00ny posted on 30 Aug 2012, 06:39 8
Not to mention lowball prices apple demands. There were quite a few reports that Apple tends to ask for prices for higher quantity and ends up ordering at a lower quantity which would have warranted a much higher cost per unit from the supplier
5. remixfa posted on 30 Aug 2012, 07:33 14
Its an example of Apple's over litigious ass coming back to bite them. Who wants to get in bed with a company that demands that you make next to no profit on your product so they can make double profits.. and then threaten you with lawsuits at every corner for the trouble. Heck no.
It shows people are no longer jumping at the opportunity to be part of the Apple supply chain. You cant abuse your suppliers and expect the industry to not notice.
11. gallitoking posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:43 0
a lawsuit that they won.. and it show that it was Samsung that did wrong. so what again??
13. remixfa posted on 30 Aug 2012, 14:09 3
yea, thats one lawsuit out of dozens they have filed. They dont have a great winning record actually, but they win enough and throw enough lawyers on the field to keep others nervous.
And besides, This "win" will be over turned on appeal at least partially if not fully. Be careful what you wish for because if any of samsung's patents are found to be infringed upon by the iphone, your looking at a US ban of iphones unless Apple comes to reasonable terms.... which we all know is unlikely.
7. sithvenger (banned) posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:51 0
Why is no one talkin about Qualcomm n these posts? Aren't they involved too?
8. remixfa posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:01 5
because they dont have a reputation of bullying, patent trolling, we can copy but you cant mentality, ect.
9. ph00ny posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:39 0
I think qualcomm was reportedly signing with Samsung on top of their existing relationship with TSMC to meet demands. I guess that means samsung supplies their own qualcomm SoCs and possibly replace apple for the capacity
10. remixfa posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:02 0
Qualcomm uses 28nm wafers, Samsung uses 32nm wafers and a completely separate high gate tech to make them.
If Q was in talks with samsung to increase production, then they were probably looking for something similar.. a dedicated factory just for qualcomm.
14. ph00ny posted on 30 Aug 2012, 17:44 0
Let me know when you're done reading ;)
BTW 32nm HKMG is a more advanced manufacturing method than 28nm polysi which is being used to build the snapdragons
12. jmoita2 posted on 30 Aug 2012, 13:47 2
It's good to see at least some companies not bending over backwards to become Apple's slave.