Smartphone displays need a bezel. Here's why
46. gkquiambao posted on 15 Mar 2012, 22:34 0
imagine this: a phone with no bezel on top/bottom and left/right but the part where the bezel should had been is not sensitive to touch.
32. ledbetterp3 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 18:48 11
Actually, it's more like a phone with no bezel..
3. josephnero posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:19 21
i dont mind bezel on my phone as long as its not too big
4. kmix1987 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:26 9
I think another problem that we will see without having a bezel will be the phone case issue. I mean usually phone cases clip on to the area on the left and the right side of the phone, so without the bezel, it would just be on top or bottom, depending on how the phone is created.
42. yourfather posted on 13 Mar 2012, 13:43 1
Well, if there was no bezel on the sides, but there is on the top and bottom, than there would definitely be cases and clips specifically designed to fit that/those phone(s). It's the similar principal to most of the cell phone accessories at say Wal-Mart being mostly iPhone integrated. In conclusion, there wouldn't be a problem anyway.
5. jamrockjones posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:26 9
I don’t totally agree. If the screen was huge than yes you’d accidentally touch the screen, but I just tried it on my Marquee and I didn’t touch the sides when reaching my hand over. Plus if the frame part were true why are manufactures now making televisions with now bezel, cause it’s feakin sweet. I think the concept of a big screen with less bezel means that it fits better in my pocket and in my hand is awesome, hope they at least try it.
14. tomn1ce posted on 12 Mar 2012, 11:14 3
I touched the opposite side of my G-Nexus just using my thumb and I didn't come close in touching the screen for the lower part of my thumb. I don't think that the bezel has to completely disapear from the phone but make it smaller. A 1mm to 2mm side bezels should be good enough for those of us who put a protective case on our devices. At the same time the screen size can increase with the extra space that the bezel would give up. The top and bottom bezel can be reduced as well. As it stands right now the G-Nexus has about 12.7mm on the top and bottom of the screen. If that area gets reduces to about half the length, the screen can be made bigger in the same 4.65" screen size chasis.
15. Jimstar posted on 12 Mar 2012, 11:25 0
If the screen was huge...or your hands were. The way I hold my Bionic, I'd definitely get accidental presses if it weren't for the bezel.
And those bezel-less TV's are still unproven, how about we wait for them to make a dent in the sales department before using them as justification.
21. Fallout09 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 14:03 5
Bezel-less TVs rock. I currently have a 55" Samsung LED tv with the razor thin clear bezel and it look awsome on my living room wall. I love the look of a floating piture.
25. deago78 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 14:25 2
Thats on the background of a white (or some other solid color) wall though. It may be easy to differentiate between the picture and the background there, but not so easy in the case of the smart phone where the background is changing every second based on where you're holding your phone
6. remixfa posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:26 16
"bezel free" gets tossed out alot, but in reality its just "greatly reduced bezel" it will aways be there.. otherwise we would be able to hold the phone to the side and see the internal parts. :)
I enjoyed the article. The answer to the accidental touch question has already been answered. The outter edges of the screen are "less sensitive" to touch than the center parts in displays like this, making accidental skin brushes b y the flesh of your thumb on the side less likely.
Also, if you use samsung's flexible OLED technology, that reduces the amount of damage that the phone will take without the bezel. With a screen that no longer needs to be fixed tightly, breaks from accidental bumps are also reduced.. with or without the bezel. We've all seen the samsung development test where they bash the thing with a hammer and it doesnt take a mark.
If samsung uses both techs (that theyve developed) in the upcoming SGS3 with its severely reduced bezel, i think its going to be all gravy. Apple could not have pulled it off as samsung isnt about to give them their best screen tech.. they turned them down for Amoled use, and im sure they are not about to change that. Without samsung's tech advances in this very field, every one of your points would be 100% true... and the phone would be about as breakable as eggshell china.
10. remixfa posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:35 3
Also, i felt i should throw in that looking at a picture with a bezel and a screen with the bezel are not the same. Generally the picture is lit with the same light as in the rest of the room. The bezel gives it a focus for our brains as we thus are able to reduce the noise from the rest of the field of vision (aka, everything but that picture is pretty much ignored by the brain). On a monitor/tv/phone, that does not happen the same as these sources are backlit and generally brighter than everything else around it. Our mind automatically picks up the screen area and reduces that "background noise" with or without a frame. The cones and rods in our eyes adjust to the light and everything else is darkened slightly. Its like when you first walk outside and everything is bright as hell, but after a minute it stops hurting because your eyes adjust. It just happens on a more focused scale.
7. jan25 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:27 1
i guess every phone manufacturer wants to revolutionize their phone designs but surely a bezel-less phones is impractical.
8. Captain_Doug posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:31 0
The bezel on the Razr kills me. Just too much. I do agree that a phone needs a protecting layer of rubber or metal or whatever around the edge but i hate the part of the screen around the edges that's still glass but isn't part of the display. I would very much like to have a 5" screen in a 4.3" chassis and it's totally possible with a 16X9 AR and on screen buttons. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. So far the G-nex and D quad have come closest but everything else feels/looks too massive to be of use with one hand.
28. Cwebb posted on 12 Mar 2012, 16:50 0
Yea, when I first say the Razr I thought of how big and bad the bezel looks on it, and then the horrid dimensions.
38. u-suck-more posted on 13 Mar 2012, 03:02 0
Have you met the Optimus Sol? lol. thr is wayyyyyyy too much bezel on the Sol
9. andro. posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:33 11
We don't want bezel free just minimal bezel. Especially massive unnecessary bezel top and bottom of the screen,this google has aimed to remove by having no physical menu buttons and no doubt the galaxy s3 will have a reduced top and bottom bezel The iphone top and bottom bezel is huge for instance and will continue to be so because of the screen being stuck in the old non widescreen format.
11. tward291 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 10:37 2
the only form that a bezel-less would be impractical is on a tablet
13. VJo003 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 11:09 1
May be they will use some industrial strength toughened glass which will negate the need of having a bezel
16. VebbX posted on 12 Mar 2012, 11:36 0
Soz, but they have to go, the new thing will be smart covers over the screen. Like a liquid!
Soulja Boy, super solve it!
17. Jeromeo posted on 12 Mar 2012, 11:55 2
Could someone please create a design that doesn't leave a gap which traps finger oils, dust, dirt, and gunk in between the edge of the bezel and the screen glass?
18. gallitoking posted on 12 Mar 2012, 12:05 0
remember when I said that no bezel. no way... this supports my theory... in a way
30. gallitoking posted on 12 Mar 2012, 16:57 0
even better that way i have the liberty to say what i pleased.. thanks for the heads up
29. Cwebb posted on 12 Mar 2012, 16:53 0
This just in, Apple announces the iPhone 4$2 will have no bezel... Your thoughts?
33. remixfa posted on 12 Mar 2012, 21:52 0
I'll remember that when the i5 bezel free rumors start coming in..
19. JoshuaSailor posted on 12 Mar 2012, 13:02 1
What I'd like to see is a tablet with the entire front surface being the screen. No bezel AT ALL ANYWHERE. Edge to edge like a boss. Then just leave a black boarder all the way around that would be reserved for navigation/task management/etc.
Kind of like the Galaxy Nexus except have one side dedicated to navigation (Back/Forward/Home/Stop/Reload/Whatev is needed), have one side be reserved for task switching, have side reserved for App specific menus/features, etc. The idea isn't perfect and would require more thought from a design/use perspective, but it seems like it'd be easy to follow, easy to use, and hard to mess up. Plus, it'd get rid of a whole bunch of layering that tends to occur, hiding useful features. Another option would be to allow customization of the sides. IE widget type apps. Make the top bezel contain stock quotes or a volume slider, etc. Maybe add multitouch swiping to allow switching between apps.
Make it, prefereably, with a super amoled screen so that it could be ink black and any relevant buttons white. Have them automatically turn off after 30 seconds or something and bring them back by swiping left to right/top to bottom/whatev depending on user preference. If you want to hide them but don't want to wait 30 seconds, swipe the opposite way. This would prevent any accidental interaction, as tends to be one of the primary defenses for keeping the bezel.
Obviously, I feel this would be most useful on tablets and not phones as there is much less precious screen real estate on phones. I feel like this could eliminate buttons entirely. (Though there will be some who will espouse the convenience of certain physical buttons, so maybe keep the power/lock buttons and such.) Another argument would be that it's a waste of pixels. There's no arguing this one. You either think it's a good use of pixels or you don't. Personally, I'd rather vastly increase my ability to multitask and use my tablet as a legitimate computer than be able to watch a video with an additional 1/2 inch of picture on each side. Finally, there's power consumption. Frankly, I find it hard to believe that the technology doesn't exist to make this pipe dream a reality with minimal battery drain. I mean, for all intents and purposes, even with all 4 bezels active, we'd be talking 25% of the pixels lit up and, for the majority of use, all 4 bezels would be off.
20. Leo_MC posted on 12 Mar 2012, 14:02 0
Did anyone see Nokia concept phones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovqDMvsWuvc)?
Ok, we are not there yet but we can ask for 1-2 mm bezels instead of 7-8 mm.
23. DIYguy posted on 12 Mar 2012, 14:10 1
I'd say that the human form phone doesn't need bezels because it also has some kind of pressure sensitivity which would allow to eliminate unwanted touches with f.ex. your lower thumb.
35. Leo_MC posted on 13 Mar 2012, 02:15 0
Install a "pressure sensitivity" in normal phones to eliminate unwanted touches... lool.
24. djg71087 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 14:18 0
well im all about pushing the bar, and i think Samsung is looking "outside the box" in design. Now with flexible screens and technology advances in glass (like Gorrilla Glass 2), why not design something different. For example, we go from cluncky PC's to All-in-One PC's and iMac's, its just the lastest advancement in the tech world.
27. jjjsong posted on 12 Mar 2012, 16:39 1
I disagree. I would like to see bezel-less phones myself (my own opinion of course).
In terms of bezel protecting the screen. We've already seen flexible OLED screens being tested by hammers. I think that showed enough that the screen seems even more durable than the metalic/plastic bezels.
I believe when most people hold their phones, the entire front side of the phone is actually visible - meaning nothing is blocked by the fingers and bezels are only there to waste space.
31. ajoshi06 posted on 12 Mar 2012, 17:10 1
they definitely dont have to remove bezel.. but defenitily have to minimize it!!! specially on top, they use too much space for names of manufacturer.. still can be there but be minimized
34. TechnoTechyes posted on 13 Mar 2012, 01:46 0
Many samsung's TVs are relatively bezel free, I think they look great. I see other TVs with a 2" bezel and I don't think it helps the experience, it look smaller and the drastic contrast makes it look more like a TV than an image. Compare 55" TVs, Samsung has a smaller total frame, but the picture looks bigger (at least to me). As far as phones go, it is a matter of how it works in your hand, and until I see and feel one, I will never know.
36. Nathan_ingx posted on 13 Mar 2012, 02:50 0
Why the hell are you guys talking about bezel-less TV? Sure it looks cool, but do you hold your TV on your palm?
Think about it...
The bezel has a purpose...it can be done without, but it definitely is a protection.
37. Nathan_ingx posted on 13 Mar 2012, 02:53 0
...and yes, the bezel size should be minimized. It looks sick with thick lines on the sides.
39. u-suck-more posted on 13 Mar 2012, 03:09 0
For me i wouldn't want a phone with no bezel. it might look cool and all tt but it would also have a load of problems for sure. At the same time, i also wouldn't want a phone with too much bezel. it would be too ugly. take a look at the Optimus Sol. TOO MUCH BEZEL! I cant believe LG marketed it as a fashion phone here in Singapore.
40. aakashram2001 posted on 13 Mar 2012, 03:35 1
its realy funny,when there was a rumour saying that apple iphone 5 to come with edge to edge screen people were praising it like anything,but same thing when samsung brings it in reality then it becomes a very negative aspect why. already nokia has this tecnology posted on the video clips in nokia 700 models pls go through and please be sportive guys
41. phoneguru posted on 13 Mar 2012, 07:54 1
Any sizable bezel is just wasted area that could be screen space. There is no reason to have a half inch of bezel at the top and bottom of the phone just so the manufacturer can put their logo on the front of the phone. The side bezel should be no more than 1milimeter. This is the way of the future and premium manufacturing. All of you with no vision for the future will see what you're missing out on in the next few months.
43. W.P._Android_in_that_Order posted on 13 Mar 2012, 23:25 0
I disagree. I think that whole "bezel looks nice" thing this is the perception of the person seeing it. PeoPle got use to it, they would like it
44. Philipb posted on 14 Mar 2012, 06:45 1
i like bezel, helps the screen from getting surface scratches
45. rallyguy posted on 15 Mar 2012, 00:43 1
So why is this not a problem when speculation was the Iphone would have no bezel? Now that the Iphone does have a bezeel, but it's competition does not, suddenly it is a nwgative. I'm getting tired of this crap.
What ever the Iphone has is good, and what ever it doesn't have is not needed.
47. -box- posted on 16 Mar 2012, 14:34 0
Bezel should take up at most 10% of the front of the phone. When I look at older phones and/or iphones, all I see is wasted space
48. Asphyxiation posted on 19 Mar 2012, 08:27 0
First of all, there will always be a bezel. Even on those fancy televisions, there is a bezel. Even on futuristic technology, you see a bezel. The only thing that will change is that the bezel will be reduced to the smallest possible amount. It might possibly be made transparent, as well. It is still there, though.
Second of all, viewing a "bezel-less," or, as I stated before, near "bezel-less," display would not be hard to focus on. Here are the reasons why: I. The screen is alive with colours, II. The screen is constantly changing, III. The eye is an amazing thing -- say you were walking down the sidewalk, looking down at your phone. What would your eyes focus on? The phone. It would not focus on the sidewalk unless you looked past your phone at the sidewalk. It is very easy for our eyes to focus on one particular thing instead of anything else. Ever try to find Waldo? Whenever you are looking for Waldo, even though there is so much clutter, you are still able to find him because you know what you want to look for and as soon as you see what you want, you focus on it. So imagine looking at your vivid phone screen that is most likely changing because you are fidgeting with it and tell me that you cannot focus on it due to there being no frame around the edges.