Sculley: If anyone can fix BlackBerry, it's John Chen
Sculley had a televised chat on Bloomberg TV during which he said "if anybody has a chance to turnaround BlackBerry, it's John Chen." Sculley also talks about the hidden value in BlackBerry, BES. This is the one division at BlackBerry that has been making money, although John Chen recently said that BES has lost users since the retirement of BlackBerry 7 OS.
Those fearing about the future of BlackBerry should take a gander at the video below.
1. amirlukmanhisyam (Posts: 43; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)
Why can't Nokia get a good CEO like John Chen?
2. sianto (Posts: 65; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
Because they were invaded with Microsofts trojan horse.
12. Finalflash (Posts: 2347; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Yea, they were always going for that plan, to sink the ship and buy the salvageable reckage. But it remains to be seen if he can actually save BB and then we can call him "good". He has the right attitude but hopes and dreams don't often save sinking ships.
4. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Nokia has already turned a corner, and will likely post a (small) profit for this earnings report. Selling their devices & services division to Microsoft was a smart move on their behalf, and they are now a telecom company, similiar to ERIC or ALU, but with a massive 30,000 patent collection that has the capacity to generate some serious bucks...
There's no point bragging about Blackberry surviving and prospering at this point; even with somebody capable like John Chen at the helm, renewed success for this floundering company has yet to materialize.
Did Elop sell out the future for Nokia? I don't think so - but for those who liked the quality of their smartphones, I guess it does suck that they will no longer be part of this business.
5. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 382; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
Microsoft may produce the same phones with different branding.. It's always possible
14. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Chen hasn't even been there a year. So how can you say success has yet to materialize? Was it supposed to happen instantly? Let's be realistic shall we? The man said give him six quarters to turn it around. Let's give him those six quarters.
And if you don't think that Elop sold Nokia out and caused the company to plunge so low that M$ bought its devices division for far, far less than what is was actually worth, than I really don't know what to tell you.
16. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Tell me...how many Android smartphone vendors make a significant profit selling their devices? As far as I know, only Samsung makes money that is worth bragging about. The rest barely get by (including LG, SONY, HTC, MOT, etc).
Do you honestly believe that Nokia would have done any better than the rest? Their reluctance to adopt Android OS during it's early stages basically sealed their fate, and that happened before Elop joined up with Nokia. It is true that Elop didn't need to abandon Symbian as quickly as he did, but the outcome would have been the same, regardless.
However, Nokia still owns all of it's patents, HERE, and hung onto their advanced technologies division. They now have a viable future now as a telecom company, versus going bankrupt. I'd call that a happy ending...
17. nokia12 (Posts: 452; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)
stop believing that eflop lie that only Samsung can make profit..
look at htc,huwaei,ZTE,LENOVO .. htc used to make good money before Samsung ..
LG and Sony are beautifully marching ahead and are profitable.. htc is stuck with its own problems with marketing and overpriced products
Nokia was the world leader.. Samsung was pretty small back then .. Nokia could have easily by any standard have remained no 1 if they had android .. worst scenario a no 2 company behind Samsung.. but still profitable and healthy.. Samsung is world leader today because eflop gave away their share to Sammy as a gift .. stupid ms mole..
20. nokia12 (Posts: 452; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)
don't assume that I am saying Nokia was all well and good before elop... Nokia was in a big problem with sticking to symbian.. but at that point end of 2010 ... they could have easily turned around and remained no 1 ..
think of like this ..
a sick patient comes to a doctor .. all a doctor needs to give him is a pill and he would be healthy again.. instead the doctor gives him poison..
that's what happened.. you want any proof ? in 2011 Nokia n9 was only sold in 3-4 minor market countries and at ridiculous high price with no marketing,it sold more than entire lumia lineup of that year..
19. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
People who say Nokia wouldn't have made money with Android don't know the rich history and quality that Nokia has. Nokia could have been with Android BEFORE Samsung ran away with it, it's really that simple. Samsung had little competition so they took the lion's share. Had Nokia jumped in with Android early on, Samsung would have had a much, much harder time at gaining dominance, if even at all. IMO, Nokia could have made a far bigger profit with Android than what they've made with WP.
24. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
I made absolutely no mention of Android so I don't know why that was directed at me. But since you've brought it up... LG is actually making a profit, albeit a small one. They've even gained in market share. The Chinese OEM's are also gaining market share and making a profit.
And Nokia was actually making a profit and gaining market share in 2010. Even when Elop first joined the company. True, Symbian needed an overhaul, but they were going with Meego and the N9 was widely heralded as the smartphone to compete with the iPhone back in 2010. Them not adopting Android didn't seal their fate. Elop purposely lambasting his own product then abandoning it did. Do you honestly believe Android would have saved Nokia? Going by your first paragraph I'd say no. But then you go all split personality and suggest otherwise. Which is it?
27. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
X2, there is nothing contradictory about my belief that Nokia could have saved itself if it had been willing to adopt Android OS at an earlier stage. There was a window of opportunity to do this (excuse the pun), but Nokia's previous CEO and board of directors didn't bother to pursue this option, and stayed with Symbian and Meego instead. The company was already falling apart by the time Elop joined them, and they had very few options left by that time. The rest is now history, but please don't pretend that Elop took a healthy and prosperous company and ran it into the ground. That would be an outright lie, even if he did work to secure for Microsoft Nokia's D&S at a bargin price.
Would Android have saved Nokia? Yeah, maybe, but who knows for sure. Same might have been said for BBRY/RIMM, although in their case they simply did not understand how to mass market their products in ways that would make them popular with consumers. I remember the Playbook needed a blackberry phone in order to operate - idiots! BBRY is in a league of it's own in terms of past and present marking blunders and catastrophic stupidity, and there was no Elop involved. Rarely is a single person responsible for destroying a company. It's usually a combined effort, sustained incompetence and collective lack of vision or stagnation. I hope that BBRY will survive, but something tells me that they're going to be bought out, sooner or later.
6. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch. Chen has yet to perform his miracle. Retiring BBOS7 isn't exactly the way to turn around the sales, revenue and profit charts. BBOS7 devices outsold BBOS10 devices this past quarter/year.
11. Alan01 (Posts: 302; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)
The actual numbers, which still boggle my mind, showed 4.3 million BlackBerry units sold in the last quarter. 3.2 million were BlackBerry 7 OS models.
Check out the story athttp://www.phonearena.com/news
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
And Chen is going to give the middle-fingered wave to the 3.2 million BBOS7 users who signed up in just the last quarter? He sounds like he is hooked on stupid pills.
25. x78_nothing (Posts: 53; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
do you know that BES10 can support BB10, IOS and Android? which is more potential than BB7 it self? do you know next update from BB10 (10.2.1) has abilitiy to instal apk direct on BB10? ...its transition, hard period ever, but i think BB can survive under chen.
8. Ashoaib (Posts: 2979; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
In 2007 I have seen black berry physically for the first time when my brother purchased one... I used it for a while and said, this phone is bound to doom soon and my brother replied, this is the best phone in the world... I dont remember why I said that but it is happening now...
3. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 7751; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Nothing can save RIM. They're dead along with BlackBerry.
7. rangaha (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 05 Dec 2013)
RIM renamed itself to Blackberry; they're not separate entities.
13. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Forgive him. The person behind the screen-name doesn't know anything beyond
A for Apple,
B for Big Apple,
C for Cheap Apple
D for Dirty Apple ...
21. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 7751; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Oh you know the first four letters of your ABC's. It's a start.
22. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 7751; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I meant the phone and the DOA z10. Not the name RIM is calling themselves.
26. x78_nothing (Posts: 53; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
obviously you living in the past, i ever heard such silly statement back in 2011-2012, but hey its 2014 now, BB has already plan to build 3 new Bb10 phones this year, BB Jakarta, BB Ontario and Windermere. Means 7 series in two years BBZ10, Q10, Q5 and Z30, not bad huh?
29. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It would be nice if BB were making profits from the sales of all those new handsets. Unfortunately, profits have not been in BB's vocabulary for a while. At some point, financial Darwinism takes over and the company shuts down.
9. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
John Chen definitely has the ability, I believe, to turn this company around. And should he do just that, I would love to see what all the BlackBerry doubters on this site and others have to say then. Question: Have any of you BlackBerry doubters ever used BB10? And I'm not talking about taking it for a quick spin at your local cell phone shop. I'm talking about really used it, day in and day out for at least a month. If you haven't, you really should. You will be amazed at how good this OS actually is.
10. Sauce (unregistered)
Off topic: Why, of all sites/blogs, doesn't Phone Arena have it's own mobile app? I will gladly pay 99¢, $1.99, or even $2.99 for a Phone Arena application.
23. yodelmonk (Posts: 4; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
I happily type this post with my q10. I gave up and s4 for BB10. It is way faster and more efficient than my s4. I love it. And there are no ads on my phone and nothing eating my data. I have control with BB10. AT&T took all my control away with the last android update. Google is starting to be like apple. Take a chance on BB10. It's really a great OS.
30. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I happily am typing this response on my Droid Maxx running KitKat. The UI of BBOS10 is challenging in the extreme. If the only choice in a smartphone that I could buy was a BB, I would buy a BBOS7 handset (like about 3 million other BB purchasers did last quarter).
Fortunately, I have a choice, and don't have to suffer the BBOS10 UI.
31. yodelmonk (Posts: 4; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
It only takes a few minutes to learn BB10. Most people bought the legacy phones because they were free from every carrier. Android like IOS has been dumbed down for the masses and they are geared to eat data. How do you think AT&T and Verizon can afford such huge profit models. It's in the data. Thankfully I have control of my data with BB10.