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Samsung and Apple exploring dual-camera phone tech, to the joy of component suppliers

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Samsung and Apple exploring dual-camera phone tech, to the joy of component suppliers
Both Samsung and Apple are rumored to be exploring dual-camera setups for upcoming smartphone usage, and a report from Korean media reconfirms this from a supplier's' perspective - the two mobile juggernauts' camera orders are now expected to be a significant boost for the camera module components industry.

Dual-camera phones can present numerous advantages over the single module ones, which might already be pushing their limits, given that we have 16 MP or 20 MP cameras with OIS in thin and light phones now. If implemented properly, two lens and sensor systems can improve depth perception, brightness, and color presentation significantly, thus serving as the next frontier in mobile camera advancements. The thin smartphones of today preclude from using huge sensors and bulkier modules to collect more light, so adding a second sensor/lens combo would solve the camera advancement puzzle. 

Now, as to what phones will Samsung or Apple issue with dual-camera setup eventually, remains to be seen, but we already have such phones on the market from makers like HTC and Huawei, so it is not some far-fetched idea that the world's two most popular phone makers are also looking into it. Apple even bought LinX last year - a company that specialized in using an array of sensors that can capture multiple images at the same time, with proprietary algorithms to determine depth with them, or create fuller, 3D image maps. From this, to using a dual camera setup in a future iPhone, as rumored, there are only a few steps to make, which, for companies with the rank of Apple or Samsung, wouldn't be hard to do.

source: ETNews

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posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:15 1

1. gaming64 (unregistered)


The Honor 6 Plus has a great phone but when adjusted to near focus and far focus, the image gets completely downscaled. Apple and Samsung needs to fix this issue.

http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-dual-cameras-like-on-the-Huawei-Honor-6-Plus-and-the-HTC-One-M8-What-would-a-triple-camera-be-like-on-a-future-Smartphone

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:24 1

3. gaming64 (unregistered)


*great camera

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:41 2

15. Simona (unregistered)


Exactly
Everybody copying Huawei now .. bcos they are innovatie

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:55 3

19. brunelian92 (Posts: 79; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)


Sharp did this first, even HTC and LG did this before huawei. So who is copying who?

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 06:30 1

26. Simona (unregistered)


yeah but they did it completely in useless way as honor 6 plus has great feature in camera app

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 07:06 1

27. brunelian92 (Posts: 79; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)


So they didn't copy any one because they did it better than the people did before them....

I think you just have a hard one for huawei and that is just funny really :) Such a fanboy!

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 07:55

29. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


No, actually he is right in some respect... Huawei's better implementation of dual camera does spark the interest of Big Guys...
Samsung and apple are in that position where they can utilize the full potential of dual camera set up... both have great expertise to optimize the camera for good results... you can take apple as an example that how they are taking good results from age old 8mp camera and many other OEMs cant... but I hate apple for their greediness, they have expertise to optimize the camera but to earn more profit they dont go for high end Sony's sensors. Can you imagine if apple is putting 16mp IMX230 in iphone, how much great results their phones will be producing? But greediness is the biggest constraint/bottle neck they have...
So my trust and hopes are currently from Sammy only

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 07:53 3

28. Ruturaj (Posts: 1341; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


By that rule apple/Samsung or someone else would do better than Huawei, so they won't copy too.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 09:38

32. justrt (Posts: 391; Member since: 10 Jul 2014)


Once Apple does it, they will be "the first one", since their dual camera will be fully functional and all.
Heaven forbid that happens ;)

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 21:11

35. iushnt (Posts: 1709; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


So, since Huawei did it better than Sharp and HTC, it's not regarded as copying. Once, Apple and Sammy does it, it is highly likely that it will be far better than Huawei. In that case, will u take it as copying or what? If u take it as copying then you are also accepting that Huawei copied Sharp and HTC. By the way, I am seeing Huawei fan for a first time so it quite interesting.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 09:31

31. waddup121 (unregistered)


I wonder if tahts gonna happen lol

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:19 7

2. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 1133; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)


If this rumor is true, rest in peace HTC, your inferior camera makes me sick

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:27 2

4. gaming64 (unregistered)


Their issue is that they think Ultrapixel technology would help them but it wont.It can only help in low-light shots, nothing more.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:52 10

9. Genza (Posts: 539; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


Ultrapixel is nothing but marketing BS, it just normal BSI sensors (not even Stacked BSI) what they have done is just reducing the MP count to get bigger pixel size and called it a technology what a joke + instead using the best in class Sony sensor they prefer the one from Omnivision.

If they do what Nokia have done with 920 series it would be different story for HTC (I'm pretty sure a better one).

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:59 1

20. vergil9 (banned) (Posts: 517; Member since: 06 Apr 2015)


Well, there were actually times when the One M8 beat the S5 in low light photography.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 05:57 3

22. Genza (Posts: 539; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


Yeah but there is a logical reason for that.
1. Pixel size 2 micron on the M8 vs 1.12 micro on S5.

2. Aperture F2.0 for the M8 vs F2.2 for the S5.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 21:02

34. iushnt (Posts: 1709; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


I was expecting ultrapixel to improve. Now S6 has Aperture F1.9 and UP has been shifted to front camera.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:45 3

16. Simona (unregistered)


please forget crappy htc .. they ar DONE

posted on 12 Jun 2015, 17:15

37. Niva. (Posts: 423; Member since: 05 Jan 2015)


I'd still rather have an HTC over a Huawei, I hope you're on payroll.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:39 6

5. bur60 (Posts: 848; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)


If Apple and Sammy use it everyone will suddenly say that dual cam is a must and is extremely awesome lol

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:14 1

11. gaming64 (unregistered)


Because they made it more awesome. And it's good too for other OEMs. The popularity of the latter would help give more publicity to the tech.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:32 1

13. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)


Of course, this is how the tech world goes. Whatever big brands do, it will get approved. Well, Huawei and HTC are big brands too, so not sure if "big brands" does make sense at all.

But even if Samsung make a smart bra, everyone will say it's awesome. Well, smart bra do sound awesome though.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:47 1

17. Simona (unregistered)


exactly but honor 6 plus has it ad everybody say what for .. you know people are asholes and stupid idiots like enstein said what is unlimited in this existence ? universe and human naivety/stupidity ..

if applecwould make smartphone with big dick sticking out from screen everybody will love it .. they will say well it is iphone so it is awesome.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:40 3

6. carlemillward (unregistered)


To think dual camera's came into existence because of 3D screens from LG Optimus 3D and HTC EVO 3D in 2011. Hopefully the big names will make it worthwhile.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:42 1

7. Krjal (Posts: 230; Member since: 19 Dec 2013)


That's twice the photoshopping Apple's marketing department will have to do so their phones look thinner ;)

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 03:47 1

8. raky_b (Posts: 102; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


how inovating of them!
who would epect that they do something new!?
HTC have it 2 years now, Nokia invests in project Pelican,and i guess it will be biggest inovation for iPhone since moving from 4 to 4,7' screen, and implementing curved screen for Sammy.
of corse haters and funboy will stop saying how it's s**tty idea, like they do in case of HTC until now

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:06 2

10. gaming64 (unregistered)


Wanna stick to crappy dual-cameras from HTC?

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:55 5

18. joey_sfb (Posts: 5757; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


When its put on the iPhone is will instantly become revolutionary! The best innovation in camera technology. Exceeding every camera that have ever been made.

I like to watch the WWDC because it made me laugh when every presenter use superlative.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 08:44 2

30. gaming64 (unregistered)


There is a reason why.
1. Publicity is focused on Apple. Most people dont even know dual cameras exist so when Apple invents one, there would be oohs and ahhs!
2. Better implementation of the tech. Just like what they did to their 8 MP camera.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 05:14

21. raky_b (Posts: 102; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


crappy!?
ok when you say so...i know it's not like ones at S5 and far from nokia's pureview, but still it have some futures that others dont, tnx to dual cameras.
and still, for most users they were more then fine, as 90% of them use that photos only for social network, not to print it.
and let me remind you, that we are yet to se same from apple and sammy, HTC now have 2 years of advantige over them.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:28

12. pyradark (Posts: 857; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)


Then more money for sony!! Thanks

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 04:37 2

14. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)


Not sure if Sony has even started to explore dual camera tech yet, they still can't get their camera on their phones right yet.

I expect big changes on their next flagship, hope they won't disappoint. Their IMX sensors are perfect, but their image processing engine sucks.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 06:06 1

23. Genza (Posts: 539; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


Sony never done any dual camera tech on their smartphone yet, but if we talking about Sony Imaging Division you can find Sony Digital Binoculars with dual camera and 3D video.

http://www.sony-asia.com/product/dev-5

http://www.sony-asia.com/product/dev-50v

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 06:22

24. Genza (Posts: 539; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


At CES 2011 Sony also annouced Bloggie 3D MHS-FS3 camcorder with dual lenses and dual sensors that can record video in 3D HD at 1080p with stereo audio. It can also take 3D stills. It is compatible with 3D TVs, and can display on non-3D TVs as 3D with classic red-blue images visible with the traditional 3D glasses.

http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/MHS-FS3

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 06:24 1

25. Genza (Posts: 539; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


So i think Sony has more than enough tech for dual camera.

posted on 11 Jun 2015, 20:39

33. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


What I don't get is this. Most phones have dual cameras, one on the front and one on the back. Why didn't they all explore using those 2, to get better shots.

Example - I am in a room or outside where there is low light. However the light behind me is better than in front. So the person I take a picture of could stand in the darker area that looks cooler and when I snap a picture, it will use the light behind coming in from the front camera to give the actual shot a brighter clearer picture.

Do they have to be side by side to do what they are saying they will do?

posted on 12 Jun 2015, 01:35

36. azene (unregistered)


dat dual camera look weird on iphone , like eyes ._.

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