Google is making a 5.9-inch Nexus X because your opinion doesn't matter
What the Nexus is not
Nexus devices are not designed to cater to consumer wishes. You may not want a 5.9-inch Nexus X, but I'm sorry to say, that opinion doesn't factor in to Google's plans.Android Silver will have dedicated sections in all carrier stores, including Verizon and AT&T; and, employees of those stores will be specially trained by Google to help customers understand what it is. Android Silver will likely feature devices that would otherwise be Google Play edition, meaning it will be much easier for consumers to see how the Silver variant differs from the manufacturer customized model because both will be available in the same store. Imagine a customer being able to see the Android Silver version of the Galaxy S5 (which is not a device known to exist, but will for the purpose of this hypothetical) running Android L well before the TouchWiz S5 gets the same update. That is a powerful thing for Google in helping average consumers understand a more complex issue in the Android world, and its efforts to push manufacturers towards lighter skins and faster updates. On the other hand, while Nexus phones are often based on or closely related to certain manufacturer devices, it doesn't have the same impact in the comparison.
What the Nexus is, and why Google thinks we need a larger Nexus phone
- To be a developer reference device, and
- To highlight features/trends in the ecosystem, or those that Google wants to push.
1. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1475; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
With a 5.9" Nexus phone, you can skip to get a Nexus tablet. But you'll have to get a larger pants just for the phone to fit in your pocket...
29. DevilsAdvocate (Posts: 11; Member since: 28 Jun 2014)
No matter what you say . . .But this is "goddamnit" well written article. Thumbs Up for the writer.
47. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4438; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Dude Michael H. has been writing GREAT articles on PhoneArena.com for YEARS!!!
Best articles in my honest opinion!
59. cezarepc (Posts: 610; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
Yeah only those who have stayed long enough get to know what kind of quality Michael H articles have.
74. domfonusr (Posts: 372; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
Certainly this is one among the great articles... not because of popular views, but because of cold hard facts about the evolving world of mobile. Thank you once again, Michael H. Classy work!
76. register (unregistered)
Best writer here.
101. remixfa (Posts: 14188; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Im new here.. Who is this Micheal H fellow? He sounds like one of those Bostonians! :)
104. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1655; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
remixfa! where ya been? I miss those days of you owning Taco50 :P
105. LastSun (Posts: 2; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)
I read this "Mordecai" voice, because of 'Dude' at the beginning.
92. hortizano (Posts: 49; Member since: 22 May 2013)
Yeah, it is well written, but still looks like a bashing of Google.. He could have made his facts come across without the "Google don´t care about you" and "What you want doesn't really matter".. How can it not matter if WE are the ones who give our hard-earned money for THEM to subsist? He´s making Google look like an evil corporation... like Umbrella.. 0=D
97. Fellwalker (Posts: 73; Member since: 04 Apr 2014)
As a 4 time nexus user, rooted, I would like to bash google too! Yes, I far prefer the clean ui, or I did. Recently it has changed and Google is choosing more of its own plans on us. I used to be able to connect my phone to my car, but 4.4.4 took that away. My nexus 5 battery now barely lasts a day, and regularly needs a top up. Both my current 5 and 7-2013 have full memories (without music or film) , and local mobile networks are inadequate. (I live in a city with a strong student population in the north east of England, not in the wilds ) cloud storage and streaming are utterly impossible except on home wifi. What works on Google campus barely works in most other places in the world - that majority need storage options. If Google cared about us they would encrypt SD cards by default, and put them on developer devices so developers could learn to use them properly.
Android L interface is a solution to a non problem ;there is enough already broken that they would be better fixing rather than making it look prettier!
Have you looked at the many google plus threads on complaints about what google has not fixed or has broken within Android? Honestly, how can you think they do care?
98. semo. (unregistered)
I had to sign up in support of this post and to add that the Nexus IS all about the consumer. The author mentions this in the article:
1. To be a developer reference device, and
2. To highlight features/trends in the ecosystem, or those that Google wants to push.
A reference device that developers then use to create CONSUMER devices. So what goes in the Nexus then finds its way onto other devices. Is it any surprise that the trend these days is for bigger screens, sealed batteries and no SD or microSD slots? This wasn't the case before Google thought it was a great idea.
Unfortunately, good things like Qi don't seem to be finding their way in consumer devices though.
41. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4438; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
I am OFFICIALLY drooling. If it looks like that & it comes to Verizon "F" the Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
61. marcski07 (Posts: 575; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
correct me if i'm wrong, nexus is for developers right? so for me, as an a average joe, who just want an up-to-date specs, would you recommend this nexus to me? or should I get other flagship phones? I prefer camera + design by the way and android of course..
75. register (unregistered)
Nexus is for developers but it offers great specs at such a low price compared to others which makes non-developers to buy it. Only problem is battery.
91. tokuzumi (Posts: 351; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
You'll be getting the Note 4. After the Galaxy Nexus debacle, I don't see Verizon getting any more Nexus devices. Now, they should be getting Android Silver devices. One of those devices may fit your phablet needs. But they will most likely be released after the Note 4. So, enjoy your Note.
93. ePoch270 (Posts: 113; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)
I agree, you will hopefully find a Note 4 "Silver Edition" in verizon stores/ outlets etc...
But IIRC, Google has vowed to NEVER make another CDMA Nexus. Don't know about VoLTE though. I'm not sure if the issue is with CDMA or Verizon.
43. Ashoaib (Posts: 2436; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
very nice article, now I know nexus is not intended for me(general user) rather it is intended for developers.... beside that they are going to put QHD display so I think may be 5.9inch is a perfect size for developers to optimize applications for QHD display and see/check the results/optimizations, as the critics of QHD says there is no benefit of QHD on small screen and human eye cannot notice any difference
2. AfterShock (Posts: 2997; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Great piece but.
I don't care about the size much so that is not a deal breaker, the chip maybe.
I doubt devs need to have a bigger screen to visualize a bigger rendition of their apps though, sorry that seems a bit outlandish to myself and far reached.
6. Bjray (Posts: 105; Member since: 29 May 2014)
"I doubt devs need to have a bigger screen to visualize a bigger rendition of their apps though"
No, but there are huge amounts of phablets on the market now and it would nice to have a dedicated fully developer friendly phablet to reference with.
11. AfterShock (Posts: 2997; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
What makes the difference though, .7 in screen size, is that justifiable to you to make or not make an app?
That seems odd to me, I'm no dev though so I can't rule that out completely.
19. Bjray (Posts: 105; Member since: 29 May 2014)
Oh I agree, just saying that it's nice having more developer device options.
63. timepilot84 (Posts: 97; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
As a phablet fan, I can say that there are no big phone options out there that don't come with the manufacturer feature crap that seems to be all the rage amongst phone producers these days. This will be a welcome replacement for my Galaxy Note 3.
95. stevenswall (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Aug 2014)
The OnePlus One should be right up your alley... Near stock Android with CyanogenMod, and no crapware and ugly front logos.
35. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1058; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
It´s not really to make or not an app, but more to check how it looks, play with it, make optimizations depending on the screen size, etc
46. Finalflash (Posts: 1913; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
No, its about having more devices that are cheap to test on. Emulators are useless for testing largely because they run on simulated hardware. But, for example, my own app measures screen resolution and puts certain bitmaps in place to show the best possible results for the resolution and pixel density. The fact that this is done dynamically means I have to make sure that the system remains smooth while all the numbers are being crunched and having an actual device really helps that. Currently I own a N4, N7, S4, PFI+dock, G3, G Pad 8.3 and G Nexus to test on. I would definitely like a cheap but high end phablet to add to that mix to literally cover almost all ranges of devices (just need 12 inch tab after that I think).
3. Mrmark (Posts: 164; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)
Finally just what I wanted a 5.9 Nexus ...now I can get rid of my HTC Max ... FYI I do like the screen real estate on phones
4. TheRequiem (Posts: 164; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)
I'm a developer and I don't want a 5.9 inch Nexus. It's too big and with most android's being around 4-5 inches, it's unreasonable to make developers work with just 5.9 inches... and guess what, my opinion matters! I'll stick with my Nexus 5 if this is the case.
17. xfire99 (Posts: 570; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
Which way is it unreasonable? Google doesnt force all devs to buy and develops apps to it. Its free choice for all devs if wanna develop apps and earn cash.
18. AfterShock (Posts: 2997; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Unreasonable by size I think.
Maybe devs want to use these phones too as well as dev for them, forcing them down a path they may or may not want to go seems odd.
84. techspace (Posts: 791; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Exactly, there is nothing new in the article....we know that nexuses are for the developers and they are used to highlight the trends in the ecosystem but that doesn't mean that they are not for the regular users, they are also marketed as consumer oriented devices....even the developers are consumers, they are not robots, they would also like to have things that a regular customer likes.
Google is working hard to make the nexuses as user friendly as possible and they are doing a great job.
21. aba71983 (Posts: 539; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)
Just like what Google said that the Nexuz X 5.9 inch is not for you.
There is many variety that fit for you. As simple as that!
28. SellPhones82 (Posts: 565; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Then the rumored 5.2 inch Nexus should be up your ally, or like you said, just stick with the N5.
48. Ashoaib (Posts: 2436; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
TheRequiem... as I remember the reports that 5.9inch display will be QHD and I also remember reading many comments everyday that there is no benefit of Qhd on small screen... may be this is the reason they made it 5.9".... soon most of the flagships will be launching with Qhd and in future Qhd will become a stard for flagships, so google must optimize android & applications keeping Qhd in mind... probably, this can be a reason for 5.9"... what do you think?
79. blitzkreig (Posts: 103; Member since: 18 Aug 2014)
"and with most android's being around 4-5 inches"
Err.. Sorry, but thats not true. Millions of phablets (more than the total no. of phones sold in North America & Europe combined) are used & continue to be sold in China, India & other south and south east asian countries. Granted that a majority of them are entry & midrange phones from local (read chinese) OEMs.
But that doesn't change the fact that they run android & play a huge part in promoting Google's OS. Even entry level phones come with a dual core cpu & 1 gig ram. You don't need that configuration to check emails, listen to music or for basic web surfing.
Phones these days are used to shoot pics, watch videos & play games. And doing all this makes sense only if the screen us atleast 5.5 inches. Even something as mundane as web browsing becomes an exercise in frustration on a sub 5 inch screen.
Ok.. So you have your Sony DSLR for capturing photos, a wide screen 65 inch smart TV for watching videos/movies & even surfing the web. You also have a water cooled alienware gaming rig plus an xbox. Plus games look so much more stunning on the PC.
Then why do we have octa core & 64 bit cpus? Why is apple of all companies feeling the pinch to out a slightly bigger iphone? Why do we even have smartphones, android & ios? We were getting along pretty well with our good old nokia symbian phones.
If you don't want a "big" screen, use a feature phone. It doesn't make sense to unload hard earned $$ on the latest powerpacked phone, if it can't do justice to the few activities that can actually utilize all that power.
80. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1279; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
White box phones out of Asia do not promote Google or their OS. The only thing they do for Google is count toward Android activations and marketshare. If the device doesn't have Play services on it, it might as well be Symbian, for all the benefit Google realizes from them.
90. Ashoaib (Posts: 2436; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
well sorry! I must have to say that your comment is totally out of context regarding Nexus X's 5.9" display and feels like just pushing your general insight instead of a particular point... if we consider your point of 4-5inch size of most android phones then they are already there and android is already pretty optimized for that segment bcoz usually there is no new technology in midrange or low end devices, whereas, Qhd is a pretty new technology and slowly taking traction, android has to be optimized for new technologies instead of midrange or low end old technology(which android is already)...
well 64 bit is a point to discuss which is also important for near future, I think google did'nt put 64bit cpu in nexus x bcoz it is not available in high end segment at the moment... only midrange CPUs like snapdragon 615/610 or apple A7(which apple will not sell) are ready at the moment... no high end CPU like snapdragon 810 or nvidia k1 are ready for show time...
7. promise7 (Posts: 480; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Interesting article, but why do PA writers section off their pieces like their turning in a high school term paper?
40. YourNickname (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)
Michael just writes at a highschool level.
8. nh1402 (Posts: 9; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)
So the trend that Google are trying to force is, have a terrible camera, and have bad battery life :P
9. thelivingdead44 (Posts: 1; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)
This article is very stupid for the reason that it states in almost every sentence that the next Nexus phone is a 5.9' device which is just based upon rumour.I'm pretty sure there is no concrete evidences until the phone is released and could prove this article baseless in case they decide to go for less than 5.9'.But for what it's worth I hope it keeps along the lines of 5.2'.
45. alrightihatepickingusernames (Posts: 444; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
The first 5.9" Nexus leak I thought the same thing: "There's no way Google wants that for Android! I'll wait for more leaks." Then as more and more leaks come out pointing towards a 5.9" Nexus it gets kind of hard to deny it. If Michael based this article off of a single leak he'd be a moron, but he (like myself and many others) knows how to filter out the BS leaks and see the more probable ones.
10. toushiro (Posts: 5; Member since: 25 Jun 2014)
5.9 is ok but only with very small bezels, like aquos crystal
25. aba71983 (Posts: 539; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)
Yes, small bezels like the Nexus 5 for sure.
53. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
Anything but those atrocious tablet bezels.
12. kramersmash (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I'll take one
*throws money at the screen*
13. imnotascammer (Posts: 74; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
Hmm.. "Because your opinion doesnt matter"
This article is based on your opinion about what you think Google is opinion on making 5.9 device.
Im afraid there's a lot of people who would fall into this. Really PA? Its not even materialized yet. And so what if it really 5'9? Didnt you just post that there could be 2 Nexus this year?
..And does this mean that Samsung (who tries to cater each possible market) also doesnt care about our opinion in making the Note series???
sigh. this to me, sounds bashing.
14. aba71983 (Posts: 539; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)
I agree with the expandable storage especially using SD card. For example, you have game into your S4 and then you buy new Z2 and you used the SD card into your new Z2. Do you think it will compatible and can run smooth.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 7183; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Excellent Op Ed as usual, Michael. I'm agreed too; for a long time now the Nexus phones have only aligned with general customer choices when those needs happen to line up with what Google wants.
16. ryan5609 (Posts: 99; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)
I am more concerned with the overall size. My OnePlus One is 5.5 inches and it is probably as big as I am willing to go. The OnePlus One's size can can become uncomfortable in my pants pocket, I do not wear tight or "skinny" jeans, this is in very normal everyday jeans and shorts. If they can somehow cram a 5.9" screen into the same size body, I will have no problem picking it up.
24. aba71983 (Posts: 539; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)
Just like what Google said that the Nexuz X 5.9 inch is not for you.
There is many variety that fit for you. As simple as that!
20. _Bone_ (Posts: 2140; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Why the hell not, gimme the 5,9 Nexus 9 with the QHD screen and Adreno 420, and I'll skip buying a Tab S.
22. TreyTreyTaylor (Posts: 356; Member since: 21 Dec 2010)
Great Read. I understand developers might be put off by the size, But we dont even know what it looks like yet. And honestly i think bigger is better. Maybe the my Notes have me a little biased but seriously, phones with big screens are awesome. I think the market speaks volumes about that. You don't know how good it is until you take the chance. A note sized Nexus phone will be outstanding. You watch lol.
69. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 916; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
So far one developer is against this not all developers. Some will some won't so what! I personally want a bigger screen, and was opting for a Note until this came to light. A nice up to date screen with real estate size, and faster updates....I am all in.
72. Professor (Posts: 192; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)
I also like big screens... But I hate all the bs software that manufacturers and carriers add to their phones. That's the main reason I buy and like Nexus phones. Although the idea of a platinum Note 4, or a platinum LG G3, or even a platinum LG Pro 2 (or GPE) is really a great option that I am willing to consider if the price is aceptable (compared to real Nexus phones).
73. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 916; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
My Nexus 5 gets updates 1st, and way longer than proprietary software like touch wiz or, Sense. Google does a good job of making current software available to it's Nexus line. Software support goes a long ways now. This is why I will take this over the Note 4, because I was going to buy a Note 4 because of the size and the integration of software suite. However; a large phone was my goal and the Note was the king of that genre.
Now this 5.9" phone with pure Google is the only thing to pry the Note 4 out of my hand.