Google announces 200 million Android devices activated, 550,000 every day
Those of you with a good memory may recall that Google announced their first 100 million activations at Google I/O back in May, a mere 6 months ago. So you can imagine a heck of a lot of people have activated Android phones on a daily basis. Google has you covered there also, reporting that 550,000 Android devices are activated every day. To put that in perspective, 3000-4000 new Android devices have been activated since you began reading this post.
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1. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Now let's divide this by 20+ android oem's. Oh...Apple still dominates as an individual oem :)
2. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1440; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
congrats wanna cookie? or perhaps an ice cream sammich :)
3. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
actually, Q3 showed Samsung beating them in smartphone sales.
Troll somewhere else, thanks.
9. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@remix. And now let's divide Samsung smartphone sales into different models in different price ranges, lol. Unless of course you can tell us that all Samsung smartphones that have been released in q3 have all the same specs and have the same prices, just different names, lol.
15. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
SGS1 + SGS2 = probably 90% of their smart phone sales for Q3.
17. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Sorry your pride is broken, no biggie you will be able to brag again soon, for now keep them coming
20. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Split Apples profits into the 3.. 3g, 4 and 4s.
22. godsarmylds (Posts: 36; Member since: 05 Mar 2010)
@530 gemini, HAHA okay so are you going to break down iphones different phone types. 3gs 8gig 3 gs 16gig then iphone 4 and all the different gig types. Just how apple markets different iphones for there different customers and discount there older models. Samsungs GsII and exhibit are marketed for different customers. So if you want to make some kind of scenario to make the iphone the number one cell phone go for it.
34. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
@ 530 please think before you type it looks like your head is full of apples
6. MalakiMills (Posts: 255; Member since: 15 Jun 2010)
Not about the phone homes, it's about the os.
8. andro. (Posts: 1926; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Thats beacuse apple are the only fish in a small apple pond.
Android on the other hands with 550,000 a day activations is very spread out with many oems talking a proportional share of the overall spoils. Its just the perception that apple is bigger individually over it being the only possible vendor in the os.
16. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
But you really can't compare the two on this level. Android is a great platform, but until Google starts making phones on their own, you can compare the amount of Androids to the amount of iOS devices because Google doesn't sell phones and Apple doesn't allow other companies to use their OS.
19. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Sharp as always :D now if many people here understood that it will be better for all of us
32. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
And they don't even factor the higher turnover rate in Android lol.
4. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thats.. aaaaa lot of phone in just a few months. Thats 16.5 million phones per month.. every month.. woot. So, should we brag about that? or is anything over 4 million just too much? :)
10. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
And that's aaaaaa lot of oem's as well, and aaaaa lot of models, at aaaaa lot of price points, lol.
23. godsarmylds (Posts: 36; Member since: 05 Mar 2010)
So are you complimenting Google for allowing other manufactures to develope products for their OS? Just because apple hasn't wised up and allowed other manufactures to develop products for their OS doesn't mean its an unfair fight. I say win for business model!!
26. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
gemini.. i just killed a troll in skyrim. It wasnt a relative was it? Sorry.. lol
42. donzere88 (Posts: 6; Member since: 17 Jul 2011)
I bet 85% of those are unstable and probably crashes every other day.
44. networkdood (Posts: 5228; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I could care less about those 85% - there are plenty of choices for an ANDROID phone and most of them best the 4S.
56. s.mrabet (Posts: 117; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I smell jealousy from someone that is stuck to one model......
5. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all :) don't get all Taco on this Gemini.
11. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Oh pardon me, I totally forgot that only android fanboys have the privilege of saying something negative against the iphone. My bad :)
18. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
fanboys.. Such an impolite term :) and no its fine for Apple users to say something negative about Apple too lol.
21. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
If you read books on Disruptive Technology, you will gain insights on how the android movie will play out. Remember the android software is free but MicroSoft is making a killing from it. 550,000 devices a day and assume MS gets $5 a device in theory, then the biggest winners are MS and the consumers.
Every time I see how many adroid devices show up, I know companies like MS are just counting their royalties -- it's money in the bank.
Also, two years from now expect Samsung to lose huge share in the smartphone business since the devices will be commodities and the low cost producer wins. It happened to Motorola, it happened to Nokia, it will happen to Samsung. It won't happen to Apple because Apple is about software and they don't license out their software. Apple already learned their mistake and had a near death experience because of it.
Look in the future where the Android OS is "free", and any OEM can buy chips from Nvidia, TI, Qualcomm, etc, the display is cheap, the battery is also cheap, and the other parts are pennies on the dollar -- you have an environment where consumers want the best bang for their buck. Anything Samsung makes can be copied. Samsung is spending all this RD that its low cost competitors can get for "free".
Google doesn't care if ZTE or Huawei makes the devices versus Samsung so long as more android devices are sold.
25. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I don't think is a as simple as that, Google has its partners, those are known for working Google's front line, new companies will have to earn their badges with both, customers and Google itself if they want to go full force. Unlike last time when Motorola made several important mistakes and was deemed as a company that produced bad quality and expensive stuff. People are looking more into quality and build every day now unless zte and the Other can beat Samsung quality they wont go anywhere, also if companies like zte where to get more and more Android share Samsung always has 2 OS to back them up and as long as they build a nice Rep and keep it that way they won't loose
31. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Is Google compensating HTC or any other android OEM for the royalties being paid MicroSoft?
Did you look at the PC market and see how the two giants like IBM or Compaq are no longer in the PC hardware business? (IBM sold its PC business and Compaq got acquired)
Did you look at the US car market and see how the Japanese took share from the Big 3, and then the Koreans took share from the Japanese, and how in 10 years, the Indians OEMs are going to take share from the Koreans?
I am asking you to look 2 years out and it's clear Samsung will lose share and lose LOTS of share. There isn't a cell phone product that Samsung makes that can't be copied at a lower price -- I dare you to name one Samsung handset that is free from being copied (we all know about how Apple's successful products are being copied left and right!).
In the handset industry, consumers are becoming more price sensitive to a level of $20 or $30 or $50. In the PC industry, DELL got toast (lost major share) because their products were $30 to $60 more expensive than their competitors. These OEMs like Samsung have to become more efficient in these difficult competitive lanscape. If Nvidia chips are too expensive, you go with TI or Qualcomm chips and the performance will be close enough that the majority of consumers won't notice the difference. Again, there are more low end Android users than high end android users. Not everyone who buys an android phone uses the android marketplace. The marketing surveys on prepaid android devices reveal these buyers do not have high disposable incomes.
As for software -- very few companies can write damn good software. Right now, we only have two "software" companies in America -- MicroSoft and Apple. You know what happens when a manufacturer tries to push their software? What do you think will happen to Bada? Just look at what happened to Blackberry OS, Meego, WebOS, Palm OS, Symbian, etc... and the list goes on. Bada will be an expensive white elephant.
Samsung is in a race to make Bada a success or it will get it will get marginalized. Samsung executives knows this and that is why they are hiring programmers like crazy for Bada. These executives knew they fell asleep at the switch with Bada and it may be too late to catch up. iOS destroyed RIM OS and Symbian meaning not all software is created equal.
As for build quality -- last time I checked, the iPhones are being made in mainland China. Get Foxconn to make ZTE handsets and the build quality. If I was a ZTE executive and if it meant that I had to spend $1 more per handset to get something similar to the iPhone build quality, I would do it. Give ZTE 2 years and even you will be amazed at the build quailty. Even Samsung had to work to improve its build quality.
58. protozeloz (Posts: 5284; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
"is Google compensating HTC or any other android OEM for the royalties being paid MicroSoft?"
1. No they don't have to, most of the companies that are paying royalties to MS are also Manufacturing windows phone devices and most of those royalties came as an agreement for them to use IP's from MS not some lawsuit.
2. Google is working on making android less of a reason for other companies to make lawsuits, also Google bought Motorola not only because they where planing on collecting royalties for their IP (Google stooped that from happening) but also because Motorola holds some interesting IP that could help them fight with lawsuits. (HTC is said to be looking forward that) so Google cares for its ecosystem
"Did you look at the PC market and see how the two giants like IBM or Compaq are no longer in the PC hardware business? (IBM sold its PC business and Compaq got acquired)"
IBM failed because they where not producing appealing products their new products looked dated compared with the much fresh products coming from the new market, same could apply to RIM, NOKIA, PALM and the respective OS's all of them made Hardware and software All of them waited valuable time, time is money, lots of money. all the above companies waited too much time believing their numbers wont change or that their popularity was eternal.
how Samsung can avoid dying? they already have lines with different levels and offer competitive prices, for example they have the Galaxy S2, they also have a model that's slightly thicker than the S2 has a smaller camera and sells cheaper while offering Superphone specks. Samsung can simply made their premium lineup for customers that seek them and make a lineup that competes whit ZTE in terms of price/quality, also big markets have standards that will make production much harder for small companies so the fact that you can get cheap parts does not make that arming them properly will be cheap too.
In plain English A company looses when they fall asleep or underestimate their competition most PC history was like that, now that it repeats on smartphone business the same way will depend on how a company sees other, with tech giving companies numbers every month is easy for a company that looks out for that to fix a redirection on their market if they decide to do so. so if they fail its their fault.
for example Acer and DELL are considering leaving android because they though their PC tactic would work the same. they brought low quality products with no backup from their part at the price of high end devices . yet ASUS came with a well priced and highly supported slate with great features and backup and they numbers where good yes people look at those $80 but I think is going backwards this time people are asking "why should I buy a Toshiba thrive when with 80 bux more I can get a transformer."
If I was any of the current manufacturers I would simply look out for small companies and beat them at their own game.
27. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Ardent, you jumbled a few pieces
" It happened to Motorola, it happened to Nokia, it will happen to Samsung. It won't happen to Apple because Apple is about software and they don't license out their software"
--Nokia made its own software with symbian. Moto tried their hand at software and failed miserably. Neither licensed out their software to others.
"Look in the future where the Android OS is "free", and any OEM can buy chips from Nvidia, TI, Qualcomm, etc, the display is cheap, the battery is also cheap, and the other parts are pennies on the dollar -- you have an environment where consumers want the best bang for their buck. Anything Samsung makes can be copied. Samsung is spending all this RD that its low cost competitors can get for "free"."
--- Android is free now. You have to pay to licence the google market and google apps though. Samsung isnt spending a huge amount on software R&D. They let google do that. Samsung is spending their R&D on hardware. Hardware that powers the top devices in the industry.. galaxys and iphones.
Consumers have this environment now, which is why android will continue to outsell iOS at every price point. you get more bang for your dollar on an android phone. you can choose cheap and still get a lot of features. You can choose top end and have a phone that showcases the best of the best in tech at that moment.. or anywhere in the middle.
Competitors cant get samsung quality chips for free. people dont buy premium samsung phones just for android, they buy it for samsung's tech, which is eons ahead of its competitors in android much less outside of android. Without a real market disruption, thats not going to change.
36. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Most people understand not all software is the same. Motorola or Nokia had high costs AND crappy software.
This point is obviously lost on you know who.
39. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and who might that be? the person that pointed out the fallacy in the statement? maybe the point should be a lil sharper next time, eh?
57. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i dont know how you did it, but in your "we only have 2 software companies" comment, you totally forgot this 3rd huge elephant in the room called Google that has more phone marketshare than both MS and apple combined... and doubled.
And BTW, Ardent
I am not trying to start some stupid flame war with you. If you havent noticed, not one of my replies to you have been rude, trolling, or anything of the like. If you cant carry on a civil discourse without resorting to your trolling and name calling, then that is on you.
7. andro. (Posts: 1926; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Amazing,the android success and popularity grows more by the day.
All this with the galaxy s2 only really hitting its launch stride in many markets and new android power houses on their way with ice cream sandwich,hd screens,quad core and much more
12. gallitoking (Posts: 4623; Member since: 17 May 2011)
newsflash.... I have just spoke with the green robot... and confirmed is 550,000 restarts... there is a typo....
14. gallitoking (Posts: 4623; Member since: 17 May 2011)
guess no one here likes jokes...hmmmm party poopers.... later
35. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Gallito I like jokes , like Apple is a joke jajajajajajaja
24. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1440; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
lucky you, i talked to the Apple but it didn't respond :(
13. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Google and phone makers are working very hard, Microsoft do nothing and get paid $15 per phone for licensing. $15x200,000,000=$3 billion.
28. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i think its $5 per set, isnt it? If thats so its only a measily 1 billion. .lol
Hey, what ever. patents were broken and now they are being paid for. thats how the patent system is supposed to work. Everyone is making money, so everyone is happy.
33. ardent1 (Posts: 1968; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
I heard Samsung was being asked to pay $15 a handset, but Samsung cut a deal with MicroSoft and those details are not privvy to the public.
People need to wake up and realize, every android device being sold is money for MicroSoft.
Google gave android for free and didn't realized it could a VERY expensive venture for the android OEMs.
40. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea, thats pretty common information. Every iOS device sold is money for nokia and a dozen other companies. Soon it might be extra money for samsung. They get paid for the hardware... and then maybe soon royalties on the software for the use of their 3g patents. :)
Everyone has their finger in everyone else's pie. If google didnt generally try to play nice with everyone, im sure it could bust out quite a few patents to get money off of MS and Apple as well as a lot of other peeps.
51. SuperEd (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
speak english...or at least try to make a complete sentance.
62. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if you are going to play spelling/grammar Nazi.. make sure your crap is proper before you hit "post comment". lolol
30. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, so here's what I don't get. Android is dominating in overall OS marketshare for smartphones and catching up when smartphones and tablets are added together. Yes, we get that as an individual OEM Apple has been taking the cake (with the exception of this past quarter) and may yet again this upcoming quarter.
But then we have jerks coming in who aren't happy with domination in one category or another. No, on both sides we have people trying to prove that their company/OS/ whatever is the f**king Michael Phelps of whatever, dominating everywhere.
Yes, Gemini. I'm looking at you especially. You didn't have to come in here to try to create reasons why Apple dominates. Give it a rest, man. It's not that critical.
37. toystore (Posts: 14; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
They forgot to mention that out of 200 million, 50 million were returned and 50 million were already dead...LOL
45. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Aren't you so clever. Bet you took all day to come up with a joke about Android's supposed instability.
47. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
He has his blinders lol. I bet you can make an accurate guess in how many high end Android phones he's used.
38. remyrz (Posts: 179; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)
im so proud of being one of them.. :'D.. lov my GS2
41. donzere88 (Posts: 6; Member since: 17 Jul 2011)
I bet 85% of those are unstable and crashing everyday smh
46. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You and Toystore should get together and write a joke book about Android.
48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I read every time an android phone reboots it counts as an activation.
49. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
And I heard every time someone buys an Apple product an Angel loses its wings.
52. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
I read every time an Apple fanboy criticizes another, its because he wants to justify himself for paying the premium price on his inferior product. People that go around bashing others when it isn't defensive, only do it to make themselves feel better.
Sad part is the only thing Apple fanboys really compliment on their company is by how much they paid for their stuff or how much money Apple has. LOL.
53. Sniggly (Posts: 6400; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Jesus, Taco, you can't even get your own bulls**t straight. You used to say that every time an Android ESN is swapped out it counts as an activation. Now you claim it's every time a phone reboots (is power cycled).
When an Android device is turned on and registered for the first time, it's an activation. Google can't call it sales because THEY ARE NOT SELLING THE DEVICES. Why is the idea of Android doing better than iOS such a big f**king deal? Apple fanboys never cried so much about the competition doing better when it was just Macs.
63. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Can you find proof of this taco? if not, quit trolling for once in your life.
When you activate an android phone for the first time, it sends its ESN to google for record keeping purposes. ESNs can only be recorded once.. period.