First Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 graphical benchmark score appears
1. AhmadAlsayegh (Posts: 257; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)
i dont know if this is an engineering sample, but I think the results are a bit disappointing...my 2 cents
9. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Its not disappointing. this isnt an A-15 chip yet. At least its finally not last place, though it did have to clock up to 1500 to get there. They are comparing it to the exynos at 1.2ghz. Compared to the lousy S3 chips, its a pretty fair jump in performance and its right where they said it would be. 50% more than the S3 is a smidge above an Exynos in performance. They promised, and delivered.
Problem is the exynos is promising a 50% bump as well, which will blow this out of the water. :)
12. AhmadAlsayegh (Posts: 257; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)
hmmmm, according to link below, the S4 is supposed to be showing up with the 3xx series of the Adreno?
it is not mentioned though whether it is a dual or quad?
edit: the link above is not working properly, here is a shortened link:
13. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
there are going to be 2 generations of the S4. One is just die shrank.. the one they just benched. The next iteration is running A15 and probably with the 3xx series of adreno, but we wont be seeing that one until probably end of the year at the earliest.
This is just the "we are tired of being last place so here's a performance bump" chip.
15. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4489; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Hey they are saying the S4 with the Adreno 3xx is supposed to come out before Q4. The Adreno 3xx is supposed to be the best when it comes out, better than anything else.
The dual-core S4 Adreno 225 is already on par with NVIDIA's Tegra 3 which happens to be quad-core. That is pretty impressive.
17. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, most Chip OEMs seem to believe more advanced dual-cores are the way to go than quad-core.
18. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
You are wrong. The Snapdragon S4's first iteration is going to run their all new core design that should be equivalent to the Cortex A15. The GPU is an upgraded version of the Adreno 220, with much better drivers and much more memory bandwidth to support it. This will probably run at a max of 1.8 GHz. This is enough to destroy the Tegra 3 in every metric, especially with Qualcomm's integrated basebands for huge power savings on LTE and DC-HSPA+.
The next step comes in 2013, when they shrink the die, amp up the clockrate to 2+ GHz, and introduce an all-new generation of GPU that should improve at least as much in performance from the Adreno 220 to the 225 as it will from the 225 to the 305.
20. moosa.mahsoom (Posts: 22; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
qualcomm does not use ARM architectures. They use their own architectures. S4 has the Krait architecture which is A-15 Class.
2. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
What's great is that there is a chance it could be supported in future Windows Phones.
3. btbotimtim (Posts: 150; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
Galaxy S II with mali-400 debuted about a year ago....
4. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
well, this can't hold a candle to the new the OMAP 5..I mean it's PowerVR GPU was stated to run Nenea Mark AT 130 FRAMES PER SECOND ON A 1280X800 SCREEN!!
check the demonstration video:
5. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, that's impressive in the here and now but i'll bet this'll earn the 4th Gen Crapdragon status when this gets compared to Samsung's Exynos5250 and TI's OMAP5.
10. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ha! i got you saying it now too :)
they hit 50% improvement like they promised. but yea, its going to be last place again. the 5xxx exynos is going to be a monster, especially if its really an a15 chip. this crapdragon still is not an a15.
14. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
you've had me saying it for a while. xD
yeah, it's too bad they didn't come out with this sooner. i was almost certain phones like the Rezound was going to use an 8960.
19. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Yes, TI OMAP 5's GPU and the 5xxx Exynos should be amazing. However, they'll probably be neck and neck on CPU, and trade blows in GPU.
None of this, however, matters when you're already going to see phones running this SoC that blows the Tegra 3 into bits while Samsung and TI has to watch Qualcomm gobble up marketshare because Qualcomm got there first.
Sure, it's going to be slower. But it doesn't matter.
6. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
..only hope for snapdragon to compete in the high end phones will be in releasing the promised quad core 2.5 Ghz chips with adreno 320, in time.
adreno 320 should be up to hundred percent faster than this 225 here.
anyway, by the end of year phones will be able to match and even beat ps3 in graphic processing power ..hook them to the tv and say goodbye to consoles.
21. moosa.mahsoom (Posts: 22; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
Adreno 225 should beat PSVITA and maybe XBOX 360. if qualcomm is lucky, PS3. he he. just kidding.
7. tushar.nayyer (Posts: 1; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Atleast give me the credit and not Gsmarena for the link. I had tipped both of you at the same time.
11. Vrils (Posts: 29; Member since: 17 Sep 2011)
these processors are ready since october 2011
i want to see the phones...
16. k1ng617 (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Just posted a 44.2 on my stock frequency GNote which runs @ 800x1280. How's that compare? I'm not totally sure if this is an appropriate approach but here goes nothing.