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1080p high-end smartphones will be the norm by mid-2013

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1080p high-end smartphones will be the norm by mid-2013
The HTC Droid DNA started the 5-inch 1080p screen era in the United States just last week, but it is just the first of many devices with such insanely detailed screens coming up. And it won’t take too long - by mid-2013 high-end smartphones with 1080p displays will be common, according to a research note by British bank Barclays.

That is not a huge surprise as we are all expecting the newest crop of Android smartphones to indeed feature 5-inch 1080p displays, but it’s reassuring to hear that by the middle of next year the technology will be commonplace. We expect Samsung, LG and others to unveil their new 2013 devices at CES and MWC, the two biggest tech shows, held in January and February.

All rumors agree that upcoming state-of-the-art smartphones will have that very same size and resolution of 5 inches at 1080p, and that works out at 441ppi.

Additionally, Barclays shared its expectations for HTC to post sales of 8.8 million smartphones in Q4 2012, more than the 7 million devices it sold in the same period last year. Still, the company will face some tough challenges in 2013.

"We (see) better-than-expected (HTC) sales and margins in the first half of 2013 on new product launches, including the 5-inch Butterfly models and the next-generation models to be announced at the Mobile World Congress. However, we are still cautious on the second half of 2013, expecting competition to be intensified from Apple, Samsung,” Barclays analyst Dale Gai concluded.

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posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:23 11

1. tedkord (Posts: 5259; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Nice that tech is progressing, but is 1080p necessary for a 5 inch screen? Its just that many more pixels your GPU/CPU will need to render, potentially slowing it down. And for what? Will there human eye even be able to detect the difference?

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:27 3

3. jove39 (Posts: 1330; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


You got a point...but then may I ask you...do we need smartphones at all? People have been living 10 years ago as well...most of them without smartphones! Just saying :)

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:40 7

7. Lawliet (Posts: 160; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


But we notice differences when we have smartphones and when we don't.

However, the same thing can probably not be said with 1080p screen.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:39 2

30. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 382; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


You say that you can't distinguish between 300 and 400 ppi but have you seen the HTC 1080p display? I haven't... so I don't have much to account for... but I am sure that 1080p videos will be looking much better :)

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:56 2

20. infernal88 (Posts: 113; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


do we need cars at all ? ppl havebeen living 100 years ago as well ..mosth of them without cars !

just change " car " put any invention and it will work :P

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:58 3

12. MeoCao (unregistered)


Almost all reviews say DNA/Butterfly's screen is a huge improvement.

Don't buy into what Apple's tries to sell with their "Retina" garbage.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:12 1

26. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


I do not think Retina is garbage. It just was the state of art of its time. Now it is Androids mobile phone era and they set new standarts.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:38 1

29. MeoCao (unregistered)


I don't say about the technology per se but about Apple's marketing tactics.

Apple tries to make people believe that iPhone pixel density is the maximum quality that humans can perceive. Anything more is waste. iPhone is never surpassed by law of nature.

Many believe in it and Retina exists in many people's minds.

But now it's proved not true, and even 440 ppi may not be the limit.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 07:12 1

33. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


It goes fine for the mass-market.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 13:02 1

40. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)


retina is just a term used for screens with 300+ppi
its not something only apple has!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 19:25

42. MeoCao (unregistered)


Retina is Apple's trademark dude, and the idea behind Retina is wrong.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:34 1

16. SherlockHolmes (Posts: 125; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


Have you seen that video of Htc Droid Dna vs LG Optimus G ?
Bith have Same specs then also Droid DNa is much faster in all the Benchmark tests ~~!!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:02 1

23. redmd (Posts: 909; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


software optimization should also be included in that "same specs".

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:10

25. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


You are right, tedkord, but as long as technology (performance and battery life) can handle it, why not?

High-end Android phones are there to fullfill the dreams of tech fans like us, after all!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:47 1

31. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


I agree. I would like them to start working on battery technology, honestly. Double the battery, but keep it at the same size. I mean, if they can manage to go from four cores to eight, and from 250 ppi to 441 ppi, then I'm sure they can improve the battery. The focus on it just isn't there.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 12:54 1

37. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)


No is the answer
as steve jobs said, above 300ppi the huamn eye can't detect individual pixels(no, not even if it's pentile) so pushing it beyond 400 seems a bit insane
like, its just detected by a microscope and youare putting that for show off? just coz the competition has it? or you haven't got anything "new" to offer? which can actually be classified as innovation?
else even apple can put together a 5"FHD screen,3GB RAM, octa core processor, 16MP camera, 5MP front camera and the likes
just sayin.....

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:30 2

6. jove39 (Posts: 1330; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Love the way technology is moving in phone world...bring 1080p on 6" Note-III

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:56 1

19. redmd (Posts: 909; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


I want that! But rumour is just 5.8 inches 1080p screen. for sure the battery is upped again. and Samsung will take my money once again.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:41 8

8. rocketlog (Posts: 26; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)


This means 300+ ppi smartphones will get cheaper so I don't see why anyone should be complaining when this becomes the norm.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:55 3

9. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1162; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


FOR SCIENCE!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:57

10. mahmoodh (Posts: 17; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)


if 5 inch full HD screen is gonna be the norm in 2013, then that would include iphone too ryt? or are they still gonna stick with their 4 inch 326 ppi retina display?

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:58

21. redmd (Posts: 909; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


and it's called iPhone 5S.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:02 2

24. dickwyn (Posts: 601; Member since: 07 May 2012)


Apple is just going to double the resolution

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:58 2

11. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 850; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Awesome stuff :) cant wait to get my 5inch HD1080P smartphone next year, gotta love how Androids are always pushing the boundaries, i remember how a certain group of fans of a certain phone blabbered on about high PPI in their Jesusphone, now Androids have shot right passed it headed to +400PPI. :D

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:36

28. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


And there goes the last of the jesusphone's advantage

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 10:28 1

36. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6734; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


That's what I'm waiting for also. I'm skipping ALL 2012 phones for a 2013 FULL HD PHONES 5" CAN'T WAIT

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 03:59 1

13. Bozzor (Posts: 145; Member since: 02 May 2012)


I can see Apple now seriously looking at an iPhone Pro, with 4.5-5.0 inch screen, 2272 x 1280 screen. It would be similar choice to the iPad and iPad mini...

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:35

27. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


perhaps two years later...

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:05

14. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1162; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


im waiting for a 1080p phone display that can last atleast for two days....

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:49 2

17. kainy (Posts: 165; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)


I need to see a real life comparison between 720p and 1080p displays to justify the need for the more pixel density... I personally think that bigger resolution is just an overkill, we have 720p screens and we cannot notice any pixels... why do we need more? Bigger screen = sucking more battery, without the need of it, that's all that i can say. We have some pixel density as a standard now... so if a tablet needs 1080p display or more it's ok... but a phone?

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 04:54

18. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Meanwhile in the laptop world, they are still releasing "HD ready" screens of garbage quality for $ 1000

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:00

22. redmd (Posts: 909; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


if it will work properly then I welcome advances in technology. by then manufacturers will know how to mitigate battery consumption.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:52

32. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I think the 1080p screens are great. However, I think that my 720p screen from the galaxy note 2 is just fine for now. Its a bump up yes but not so much where I feel I would have to jump at an upgrade. I would look forward more to after that as screen tech might stick at 1080p for at least another year until either something higher spec comes (like it will matter as our eyes cannot tell the difference) or huge boosts in battery and pen tech. That probably will not happen with the next upgrade. I figure I have about 2 maybe 3 years before something like that comes out.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 10:15

34. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6734; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


This is the time I've been waiting for. I'm waiting for a FULL HD 1080P ANDROID PHONE probably will wait till 5.0 KEY LIME comes out. While the iphone still doesn't want to use the TERM HD or won't have 1080P on their phones.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 16:45

41. JulianGT (Posts: 83; Member since: 15 Oct 2012)


The only bad thing is that there are not many apps optimized for this kind of displays. I have a 1080p tablet and some apps look bad.

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