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Super AMOLED for dummies: Samsung infographic explains why you don't want an LCD screen

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Super AMOLED for dummies: Samsung infographic explains why you don't want an LCD screen
Samsung’s been advocating the benefits of AMOLED displays for years, but it’s doing it more frequently lately - because it recently released its Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and Tab S 8.4, the world’s first high-res Super AMOLED tablets.

Without going into technical details, Samsung posted an infographic that shows why Super AMOLED screens are superior to LCD ones. Among the listed reasons you’ll find a higher contrast ratio, wider viewing angles, and more accurate colors.

With Super AMOLED screens that feature 1600 x 2560 pixel resolutions, the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and Tab S 8.4 certainly have a place among this year’s best tablets. Of course, they offer many other attractive features besides nice displays, including Exynos 5 Octa processors, 3 GB of RAM, expandable internal memory, 8 MP rear cameras, and Android 4.4 KitKat. You can read our Galaxy Tab S 10.5 review here, and our Galaxy Tab S 8.4 review here.

The 8.4-inch Galaxy Tab S can currently be bought for $399, while the 10.5-inch model costs a bit more: $499. Both are widely available around the world, and could become Samsung's best-selling high-end slates yet.


source: Samsung Tomorrow

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posted on 15 Aug 2014, 23:59 24

1. tahnik (Posts: 133; Member since: 17 Jul 2011)


Accurate colors? Their colors might be accurate but nowhere near natural. Completely over saturated.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:35 21

15. Iodine (Posts: 389; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


More accurate than LCD, because samsung takes the oversaturated adobe RGB, used by photographic professionals, as "accurate". But otherwise 99,99% of all things on the internet, videos on you-tube, images on flicker, are in the sRGB color gamut, that LCD's targets and so everything will appear oversaturated, unless coded in Adobe RGB.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:12 13

27. GreekGeek (Posts: 792; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


SAMSUNG wants you to believe that AMOLED produces accurate colors.

It can be frustrating though if you don't fancy NEON colors :-)

And those subtle shadows, can't really tell how intense or light they are since they all look the same

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:33 21

36. Taters (Posts: 3030; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Oleds are more accurate period......

Maybe not Samsung's take but the technology is superior without the mobile constraints of battery life etc. so eventually even you haters will think OLED is superior, which it is....

http://www.medgadget.com/2012/07/sony-unveils-worlds-first-oled-medical-monitor.html

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 02:03 12

48. Shatter (Posts: 2027; Member since: 29 May 2013)


On lcds suck at color, natural is not washed out with poor contrast. Plasmas/CRTs produce more accurate colors than lcds/lcdled.

Oled brings led on par with plasma/CRT color and blacks while keeping the advantages of LCD/led.

Amoled is a subdivision of oled.

Displaymate is the most reliable source for phone displays and they say amoled is the best.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 06:41 1

83. Genza (Posts: 175; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


I don't really trust DisplayMate because all they can do is showing us some numbers and theory.

They said they are the world leader when it comes to display calibration and measurements but why most profesionals is not using their software or method?

PA some other site maybe not display expert but they using the mostly widely used video calibration software in the world for their test.

For me This comparison
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Screen-comparison-G3-vs-Xperia-Z2-vs-Galaxy-S5-vs-One-M8-vs-iPhone-5s_id3747/page/2

is 100x more trusted than some numbers from DisplayMate, because PA can show us real life proof that GS5 screen is not accurate.
If DisplayMate can show us real proof (not just some numbers) and also prove it that their software and method is better i would trust them.

There is no doubt that OLED is the next gen display but samsung pentile amoled is not the best.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 08:18 2

92. Taters (Posts: 3030; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


What a bunch of humans with eyes that get fooled by quickers hands all the time is hardly more proof than solid mathematical measurements.

Especially not coming from phonearena and their retarded reader base.....

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 20:56 1

121. Genza (Posts: 175; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


"solid mathematical measurements." Hahaha maybe you can explain me why their method and software is not widely used by the profesionals?

PA is not the only one who show us that DisplayMate is wrong,
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review

Just like what i said before until this day the best things DisplayMate can do is just show us some magical numbers and talking about their "solid mathematical measurements".

i'm sure if DisplayMate can prove it that their method and software is can do a better job than any other software.
Their software is gonna be the most widely used video calibration software in the world.

posted on 17 Aug 2014, 04:36

124. Ashoaib (Posts: 2111; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


search an article which PA posted as an acceptance of their faulty analysis about GS5... PA already accepted that their analysis was faulty... beside that I dont consider anandtech truely proffesional bcoz most of the time, their reviews are based on the personal liking or personal mindset of the reviewer instead of mathematicle/technical measure... for example, if I used a device and review it, it will be upto my mindset/knowledge that how I am percieving it, so just use anandtech for information only

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 09:39 2

99. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


You trust PA reporting those false numbers over DisplayMate? Man I feel sorry for you. They have highest nits of brightness wrong to begin with and that doesn't raise a red flag to you? They're playing you.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 06:34 6

79. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


ALL THIS AMOLED BASHING WILL STOP , as soon as the prices go down and Samsung is able to produce enough displays, so to sell to Apple.
Period.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 08:30

94. Shatter (Posts: 2027; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Amoled gets better every year, expecting the note 4 screen to blow the g3 away in every aspect.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 09:40

100. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


That's no surprise. ;)

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 14:31 2

109. tedkord (Posts: 4802; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yes, they do want you to believe it. That's why they send samples to Displaymate for testing by a PhD who has decades of experience in testing and developing displays. And his verdict was... Well, you already know what his verdict was, and it gives you a world record case of money butt.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 17:39

117. TheGenius (Posts: 326; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


And YOU want us to believe that YOU know what SAMSUNG wants us to believe but WE know that YOU are a HATER and so WE dont believe YOU.

you are just equally frustrating at all times. :-)

And that name, change it to something like cheapgeek coz you are insulting greek people

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:01 2

23. neela_akaash (Posts: 148; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


Amoled consumes more power than lcd.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:39 6

39. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3317; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


In which way O.o

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 04:32 5

60. avalon2105 (Posts: 81; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)


At full brightness and displaying white color. That's the only situation I can think of where AMOLED uses more energy than LCD. Other than that, AMOLED is more energy efficient.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 08:35 1

95. npaladin2000 (Posts: 134; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


Given that most stuff out there uses a white background, that's a pretty common situation.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:41 13

40. mayur007 (Posts: 426; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


no less because of amoled has deep black which dont emit light

which means only those pixel will emit light which have other than black color

posted on 21 Aug 2014, 15:02

137. sraive (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Aug 2014)


And the AMOLED's deep black is going to have mura effect over time.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 02:32

50. sar44 (Posts: 214; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


oversaturate for srgb content
also
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8258/evaluating-samsungs-qhd-amoled-displays
also watch oled tvs tests

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 05:04 3

63. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2780; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


wtf. Natural and accurate is basically the same thing. And Samsungs AMOLED displays are NOT accurate AT ALL. Not saying they are bad. But stop saying they are accurate THEY ARE NOT.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 17:30

116. TheGenius (Posts: 326; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)


Natural and accurate is NOT the same thing.

Lets say .. you have a picture of a leaf. Now the natural color will be the exact green color of the tree but if I want it in orange and my display shows accurately the right shade of orange I wanted to see.. that would be accurate.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 09:40 2

101. akki20892 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


CRT is best............get a life guys.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:01 17

2. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Ok, let's believe them about color accuracy - for now.

Why don't they mention :
1. pentile arrangement?
2. burn-in problems?
3. quickly degrading quality/color accuracy?
4. inconsistent power consumption?

It looks like a mission impossible for crap'o'led to replace lcd.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:05 20

3. tahnik (Posts: 133; Member since: 17 Jul 2011)


Why do expect someone to advertise their bad sides?

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:08 5

4. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Sammy, ALWAYS looking for victims/preys.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:37 34

16. Ashoaib (Posts: 2111; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


same like apple, right?

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:24 23

31. Taters (Posts: 3030; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


This is the funny thing about you morons. You are acting like they are ripping the consumers off. Hate Samsung all you want but that is the last thing they do. One, they spend the most on R&D out of all tech companies. Two, hate AMOLED all you want but the bottom line is that it's more expensive than LCD so they are hardly ripping people off by giving them a more expensive technology for the same price. Three, they make some of the best LCD screens I have ever seen in the tab 8.4 pro and the Nexus 10 and yet they feel AMOLED is superior.

So what does that say? It says it all actually.

If you want to see a victim look in the mirror. Apple products are the biggest rip offs for the technology that they out in their devices and their R&D costs are pretty damn low for their size.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 14:40 3

111. tedkord (Posts: 4802; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I don't know. Why don't Apple mention having one of the shortest battery lives of a smartphone?

Note, at the resolutions/ppi Samsung is using these days, pentile means nothing. You can't see it.

Burn in is only a problem of you leave the screen on foot long periods with the exact same image. I've had two amoled phones each for over two years as daily drivers. My current phone has over 6 hours screen on time daily, often closer to 8, and not a sign of burn in more than two years later. (And that 6-8 hours screen time is on one charge)

Testing shows that amoled has an energy efficiency nearly the same as LCD, and it's getting better with each generation.

You're a bitter troll, and you've converted no one with your preaching. All that sermonizing over the past few months, and Android and Samsung both still increased their leads. Maybe some fast you'll find something you're good at.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 17:59 2

118. Ninetysix (Posts: 1612; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


I'm just curious if you can link some well known tech sites saying that iPhones have terrible battery lives. Maybe some charts that shows it's at the bottom?

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 18:33 1

119. AlikMalix (Posts: 511; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Why don't Apple mention having one of the shortest battery lives of a smartphone?

Um, probably because a Samsung Ad is really just an Advertisement to make their competition look bad, you know, um... what advertisement supposed to do.... I said this before and I'll say it again, if you believe everything the industry is advertising, then McDonalds is good for your health, Gas Companies do care about our air, and which ever political party you're rooting for is the right one... Common, guys it was an advertisement - a cowardly one, but it's not true.

My iPhone lasts ALL day on regular use, and if I do play games for half a day, I have to charge it, it will be the same on S5 or HTC... At least I dont have to run "Tasker" and clear cache/apps/etc to run my phone efficiently - and I CAN DO AS MUCH AND EVEN MORE THAN ANY ANDROID PHONE!!! so dont tell me it's because it has less functions...

Coming back to the article - iPhone screen shows the most properly reproduced colors than any Samsung screen include S5 which is more saturated and the greens dont show up right at all. Maybe you're like my little cousins who like bright shiny neon stuff (and thaf's fine) but us adults prefer accuracy.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:56 2

21. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 402; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


We're not, but expecting tech websites to point out the things NOT mentioned in the advertisements they write articles about is quite reasonable.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:21 2

6. hassoups (Posts: 345; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)


you get 1/4, do "crap'o'led" screens make you feel all bad inside?

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:23 25

7. Shatter (Posts: 2027; Member since: 29 May 2013)


1. Doesn't matter since 1080p is already overkill for phones.
2. The burn in is considered a defect and they will replace your phone if it happens through normal use. LCDs can suffer burn in too and it is also considered a defect.
3. Quality doesn't degrade, lies from competitors
4. Power consumption is consistent, whites will use more power while blacks/darker use no energy/near none.

The main benefit of amoled is it doesn't need to use tricks/post process to look good.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:32 9

13. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


1. it DOES matter, especially when scrolling.
2. They don't after the warranty expires.
3. It DOES degrade. Blue diodes wear off more than twice as fast as green ones.
4. What you are talking is called inconsistent.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:44 16

19. Ashoaib (Posts: 2111; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


keep on satisfying yourself with android and samsung,s hatred.... keep on finding self satisfying short comings of SAmoled... but the matter of the fact will remain that the SAMOLED is the best display available in the market....
(by the way all your listed short comings are stories of the past, most of these are fixed)

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:05 6

25. YourNickname (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


2subpixel pentile is not fixed, still blurrier than lcd. Over saturation red skinned actors, not fixed.(they over saturate already saturated adobe rgb as well). Poor darkest dark differentiation not fixed. i see entire blobs of shadows on super amoled instead of gradients On lcd. Lcd whites are whiter, still not fixed. I'll give them brightness and that amoled may use less battery, but maybe that wont be true if they use real 3 subpixels. That "report" by displaymate on accuracy was a sell out purchased report by samsung too.

And then person who said 1080p on phones i overkill... just because you have bad near vision, doesnt mean the rest of us need to go on your 720p poor standard. I loves 1440p high definition. I want to see every star, not every rectangle pixel.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 03:56 6

57. Ashoaib (Posts: 2111; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


blurrier? Amoleds are more clearer and sharper for naked eyes... probably you are having glasses of microscope in your spectacles? right?... did you see new SAmoleds in tab S 8 and 10? no you didnt right? go and see and then come out of your bs old mindset... Amoleds have perfect blacks for your kind information, LCDs have light bleeding issues and I can seen some blobs/traces of light on black back ground on my phone,s lcd(even my old phone,s lcd and even on my iphones lcds)... it is lcd which has darkest dark problem, surely you mixed the negatives of Amoled and lcd together and assigned those all negatives to Amoleds only...

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 05:28 1

66. YourNickname (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


I have 20/20 vision. If you have to assume I need microscopes, it's clear you've Never Even had good enough vision to tell the difference between display qualities. All your yappity yap is like the flapping of a vagina in the wind.

Tab S 8 and S 10... S8 has Pentile Super Amoled(2 subpixels). S10 Has 3strip RGB Super Amoled(3 Subpixels). Did you not notice the difference?? So clearly, you have poor near vision, and your arguments are based on your poor near vision. BS old mindset. Lol. Perfect blacks my ass, last 3 gradients of black are the same black, the PROOF is down on my other comments. Not opinions, or mindset, PROOF. Oh god, im wasting my time with a re-tard with bad vision. muted.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 14:44

112. tedkord (Posts: 4802; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


We don't need microscopes. We have a PhD physicist who has decades of experience using and designing displays who has expensive specialized equipment to test out for us, and his results are the source of the severe burn you feel on your posterior.

posted on 17 Aug 2014, 04:56

125. Ashoaib (Posts: 2111; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


WTH in a blue, a $tupid are you... s8 has pentile, s10 has pentile and you mom has penties, shut the f up you 20/20 vision guy... who in this world can see a pentile matrix on such a huge crazy pixels density? 2 sub pixel or 3, for naked eyes it is so jam packed that no 20/20 can clearly identify except your subconcious mind which is telling you, bcoz you already read somewhere on the internet which made you a ligitimate techy.. the PROOF down your other comment, well, write that proof down on an A3 size paper, roll it nice and tightly and sit on it with your pents down... I hope that proof will come up to your throats

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 05:41 4

68. GalaxyS5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


lmao you sound like an old guy favoring plasma tvs over the new curved amoleds just because your iCr@p or nursery home soony or dead blackbetty doesn't use it. calm the f down 0ld man

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 06:46 1

85. gigaraga (Posts: 1040; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


1. What are you on. Pentile matrix affects scrolling. Wow you must have really bad eyesight. Even with pentile it's still sharper than puny 640px
2. Burn ins hardly occur. It's more due to defects rather than being part of AMOLED. Even LCD on Nexus 7 had burn in
3. Degrade? Sure the blue burn in is faster, but an Amoled panel is still reliable after 4~ years, and this is a 2010 phone. If you haven't seen one, don't argue.
4. What are YOU talking about when it is inconsistent...if you happen to read reviews, amoled on S5 mini has best endurance on web browsing...better than xperia c or ur precious iPhone.
Anymore?

posted on 17 Aug 2014, 13:16

127. pkiran1996 (Posts: 165; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


@JakeLee For the second time now you've labelled the battery consumption as 'inconsistent'. So, you want the battery to be consumed at the same rate 24/7 and have your phone die? The 'inconsistent' battery life of AMOLED works as a BENEFIT since power consumption is REDUCED when displaying blacks.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 01:15 4

29. Iodine (Posts: 389; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


1. Does matter for all Pentile low end phones, with 480p displays, and even for mid range with 720p displays and even 1080p Pentile is just barely sharper than an somewhat smaller 720p RGB. From technological standpoint, it points to samsung's inability to produce any RGB displays over 300ppi and that for example means that even though many people will say that full HD note 3 to QHD G3 is unnoticeable difference, in fact the Pentile matrix makes the note display over 3x less dense, than the G3.
2. Never had an amoled, but it's happening around me and Inthink it's rather widespread problem, it's also makes sense
3. Quality does degrade, and quickly. The amoled organic layer is degrading over time and that decreases the brightness of the display. The fastest degrading oled is the blue one, the least is the green one. So after prolonged use, your display will go yellowish and then to lime-ish and green will be stronger and stronger over time, and if you use a black wallpaper with an big blue spot, you will get an burn-in of a yellowish spot on all other content after some time. Overall the brightness will go down as well. So I found this:http://www.sammobile.com/2014/07/24/comparison-galaxy-s5-lte-a-sm-g906s-vs-galaxy-s5-sm-g900f/
They are reporting that the regular GS5 display is yellowish, even though the white point of both of them should be very close as displaymate reports. Then look at the video, we see the degradation of the display in more complex images. The colors are sometimes muted, less saturated and on other occasions, stronger, and overall less bright, white is yellowish and green things are visibly more saturated as blue and red are weaker. They vere put into the same basic mode, with some small differences, but nothing noticeable like we see. So that was the GS5 after 3 or 4 months or so ?
4. Power compustion varies wildly, but I think that web is mostly white, and you won't be able to have fun with a completly black display to save power.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 04:04 1

58. Ashoaib (Posts: 2111; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Well, same issues can be found on LCDs... my phone,s lcd is little blueish/greyish when I choose colder color temperature and when I make the color temperature higher, it becomes yellowish/greenish and there is no perfect white... even black is not a perfect black.... atleast Amoleds have perfect black... p.s my phone,s lcd is from Japan display which I feels inferior to sharp,s lcds

posted on 21 Aug 2014, 14:59

136. sraive (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Aug 2014)


You're talking nonsense. I have my Nokia N82 for 6 years, and it's LCD screen is as good as it was when I bought the phone.

I have an application that turns the N82's TFT-LCD screen brightness to max and keeps the screen on as long as I close that application. It happened a few times that I forgot that app running in the background for hours (or whole night). When I woke up, the battery was on low and warm. But I checked the screen on a full white image, and there is NO burn in.

LCD is superior to AMOLED.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 02:34

51. rd_nest (Posts: 769; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


^^ You see a family trait here - ignorance and illiteracy.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 02:36 2

52. sar44 (Posts: 214; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


facepalm.
1. no because high ppi
2. no if you do not keep a static image for months
3. WHAT?
4. WHAT?

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 02:37

53. sar44 (Posts: 214; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


such stupid noobs with delirium in the head tens of millions, and it is very sad

posted on 21 Aug 2014, 14:53

135. sraive (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Aug 2014)


You are totally right. This is the best comment.

These are serious problems with AMOLED. That's why LCD is much better than Amoled.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:09 11

5. saratew (Posts: 15; Member since: 15 Apr 2012)


I admit that AMOLED is superior to LCD in all aspects while wondering why other manufacturers are going with LCD panels. Is that the price ruing its expansion?

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 00:30 1

10. YourNickname (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Partly that and its newer tech therefore theres still problems mentioned in a previous comment, but mainly its inferior due to its two sub pixel pentile arrangement. Even if its diamond shaped for improved color vs amoled, the problem remains peentile is blurrier than ips lcd. Super lcd > super amoled.

Also although blacks are blacker on a scale of 1 to 10, the last 1&2 gradients are the same shade of black. Meaning its nice... until youre watching a movie and theyre sneaking around in a lights out house, and you cant eifferentiate the blurry bloba of black

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 08:35

96. Shatter (Posts: 2027; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Note 2 has and RGB AMOLED display instead of pentile, hoping they use rgb on the note 4 to piss off fanboys.

posted on 17 Aug 2014, 13:50

130. Iodine (Posts: 389; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Note has S stripe RGB not the true RGB but still 3 subpixels per pixel. And considering samsung is completly unable to make any 300 ppi or more displays with RGB or even S-stripe, you can bet on Pentile. It's marketing- Pentile= you can market higher resolution.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 11:36 1

105. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Because there are not enough such displays yet. New tech, and Samsung have the latest greatest. But even Samsung hardly can produce enough for their own devices.
ALL THIS AMOLED BASHING WILL STOP , as soon as Samsung is able to produce enough displays, so to sell to Apple.

.

posted on 17 Aug 2014, 13:46

129. Iodine (Posts: 389; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Samsung is making more than enough amoleds, but no one wants to buy them, Apple is the least one who would buy something from samsung now.

posted on 16 Aug 2014, 17:06

114. chaoscauser (Posts: 29; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)


Price and yield rate.. Oled is approximately 17% more expensive than LCD Q2 this year.

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