Research firm ITG says that HTC ThunderBolt outsells the Apple iPhone 4 to be number one at Verizon
ITG says that Verizon's sales of Apple's touchscreen phone should come in at 2 million units for the first quarter. The handset did not go on sale at the carrier until February 10th, about 5 weeks after the start of the quarter.
This research dovetails with a couple of other reports. As we had already reported, BTIG did a survey among Verizon reps that showed that in many Verizon stores the HTC device was outselling the iPhone 4. SocialNuggets, a firm that uses the web to determine sentiment, says that in the latest reading of its smartphone index, the HTC ThunderBolt moved to the top spot, up from number 8. The Apple iPhone, on the other hand, dropped to number 10 from number 6.
The next LTE enabled handset for Verizon customers is expected to be the Samsung Droid Charge which could be launched possibly by the end of this month.
source: NYPost via BGR
1. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
*Sits down and patiently waits for the iFanboys to show up and start crying, or start quoting overall sales figures for the iPhone 4, or say "it's just ONE phone against so many!" or to blame the carrier instead of the fact that the phone is 1 year old, or to ignore that even the next iPhone won't be LTE either, and to throw around a bunch of otherwise useless taunts and insults about fragmentation or poor battery life (a problem suffered by the iPhone) or connectivity issues (soon to be resolved) or how HTC copies Apple (LOL)... have I covered everything?
Oh, and yes, also patiently waiting for the iFanboys and their sock accounts to give me and my compatriots OVER 9000 downthumbs, especially if anyone dares thumb me up.*
34. Scroat (unregistered)
Numbers were out yesterday and they don't add up. iPhone was on sale 50 days feb 10- mar 31 2.2 million sold that's 44000 a day avg. T-bolt march 17-31 14 days 260000 sold that's 18571 a day avg. For the T-bolt to outsell the iPhone the iPhone would have had to sell 1.94 million from feb10-mar17 and then only sell 260000 like t-bolt did from mar17-mar31. Just doesn't make sense.
36. Starfleet Captain (unregistered)
That's because you are looking at it the wrong way. Verizon did not sell 44,000 iphones a day as you suggested. When the iphone first came to Verizon, Something like a million was sold during the first few weeks. As with any new product, sales start strong, then decline into stabilization. A large portion of that 2.2 million phones sold was sold during its initial release (Basically the Verizon customers that were itching to trade out their old phones for the iphone, but did not want AT&T). What this report is saying is that the Thunderbolt is now selling more than the iPhone CURRENTLY, not that they have sold more than the iPhone in total.
2. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 409; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
I agree with you sniggly...come on steve jobs boys on your little 3.7 screen
3. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 409; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
No future lte.. no flash... Pay for everthing in the market when its free in android... Same user interface since 2007.
5. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and the latest report says the iphone5 will be as dissapointing as the ipad2. add a dual core processor, go back to aluminum, and call it a day. not even a bigger screen or any major revisions..
Ibots have plenty to cry about these days..lol
18. vantenkiest (Posts: 308; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)
I am an android user.. i do have to say.. they never NEVER get force closes... only thing i wish we had with android is that flawless stability... i am talking about stock options not the modded or jailbroke devices.
but i do like the internal storage being its a nice solid state hdd. where we get expandable formattable memory :D
umm did i miss any of their power points.. we can customize use widgets and FLASH BABY
19. reddragonusmc20 (Posts: 1; Member since: 11 May 2010)
having an android phone i know it force closes but its nice that we can take the battery out versus going to an apple store. that saves time in itself instead having a useless phone until your able to see a rep
24. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I only see a program occasionally force close.
27. Rich (unregistered)
acutally... this is not true. i have an ipod and it force closes...
well ok i lied... it doesnt say "FORCE CLOSE" like my phone... but here and there the app just mysteriosly closes to the home screen and i have to reopen it. they just dont let u know that somethign force closed (like it never happened)
"what do u meen u were in a program? u prolly were just imagining that! no problems here!"
6. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2842; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Can't say I am shocked. The people are looking forward to the future and 4G LTE is where its at.
7. AndroidTroll (Posts: 359; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Keep in mind that Verizon pushed the TBolt's release date back by about a month in order to give the spotlight to iPhone 4 and to place it out far enough that customers who bought iPhone 4 on launch week wouldn't be able to swap it for the superior TBolt. Even after all that BS, the creme has risen to the top!!!!
In my book, this is the best win for Android to date. Years of hype about iPhone coming to Big Red and then this happens..... lololololol suck it iBitches!!!!
8. urdaddi (Posts: 18; Member since: 27 Jun 2010)
I think that the reason it is selling at all is because it is the ONLY LTE phone that they have right now. I would love to have an LTE phone, but I am not paying what Verizon is asking for a phone where you need to but an extended battery right out of the gate (the extended battery should have been included with it at no additional cost.) One of the methods suggested to try and conserve power is to turn off the LTE. Why would I want to do that on a phone that is supposed to be LTE?
9. KParks23 (Posts: 395; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
battery is fine dude dont get cought up in the hype im in 4g 24/7 and this phone is awesome im a heavy user and only have to charge everynight... TBOLT gets the same battery life as the DX
13. downphoenix (Posts: 2134; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
no kidding, since its basically just an Evo with updated snapdragon clocked at same speed and LTE instead of Wimax. Verizon getting sprint's leftovers dressed up with some new fixins.
20. KParks23 (Posts: 395; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
the evo dont touch the TBolt. TBolt better in every aspect.. camera, faster network, 4G actually works more memory more ram and so on. and the 4G dont jump in and out every 5 seconds. its improved over the evo in every way and thats what company's set out to do... would u say for example the iphone 4 is that much different than the 3 cuz i wouldnt or the droid 1 from the droid 2??? stop reaching to find stuff to b!tch about for real ppl...
10. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
More Data traffic on LTE :O!!! Verizon better buy more spectrum then!
11. S_CREN (unregistered)
i think some of this has to do with the way sales reps get payed on the iPhone i know at a Verizon dealers in Columbus,OH when they ring one out the cant see what they make on it due to the agreement with apple and Verizon also it doesn't go towards there new activation quotas when they sell one. Ive spoken with a few who say they don't even show the iPhone because of those things.
12. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
AT&T dealers get screwed too. I sold a 3GS today and made a grand total of four bucks commission. iPhone can't be insured so you can't make any money off in store insurance, and the iphone data makes you no money and doesn't count toward features. And of course the payout that Apple gives sucks too.
14. downphoenix (Posts: 2134; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Iphones sell themselves though, you could have a vending machine that was constantly on fire vending them and the sheeple will still be buying them. $4 commission on something that prints money is pretty darn generous.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
It sells itself to an extent. Not everyone who comes in is bleating for an iphone, and I even get the pleasure of selling them on other, better products. And four dollars commission is pretty weak when you consider that I can actually BE A SALESMAN and get them into an Android, and suddenly my commission is 30 bucks or more.
17. AndroidTroll (Posts: 359; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)
Nice...be a salesman...talk them out of iphone...I like you!
23. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
A clerk sells an iPhone. A lesser clerk/greater salesman sells an Inspire (good phone, but not the highest profit). A better salesman sells the Captivate (high profit, easy sell due to its price and direct compatibility to an iPhone) and the best salesman sells the Bravo (mid range offering comparable to the 3GS) or the Atrix ("It's really a hundred bucks more?!"). The only phone I have yet to personally sell is the Atrix, though I almost did (and I suspect the only reason the customer ended up not taking it was because she came in to complete her upgrade on my day off and I therefore wasn't there to guide the sale).
22. trin (Posts: 88; Member since: 11 May 2010)
lol. China: the only place where you can buy poisoned antidote.
25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Verizon announced Q1 results today. 2.2 million iPhones sold. 260,000 Thunderbolts. It's not even a competition. iPhone sold more than 260,000 just during it's Pre sale orders. Fandroids eat another crushing defeat. Hopefully one day someone will make a google phone that can compete.
28. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Difference is, the iPhone has been out longer, the iPhone was incredibly hyped, and the iPhone gets sold pretty much everywhere, including Apple stores. The Thunderbolt is pulling ahead of the iPhone, though, and once again, as more models come out which are already ahead of whatever the iPhone 5 will offer BEFORE the iPhone 5 is released (Targa/BIONIC anyone?) the combined effort of the Android resistance will continue to hang like an albatross on Apple.
26. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Oh and that's not counting the 3.6 million iPhones sold by AT&T for a total of 5.8 million.
29. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Just remember, iFanboy, that success or failure is not dependent on beating the iPhone in sales. If enough devices are sold to make the venture profitable for the company selling them, then they are successful. This is something you and your circle jerking friends have never understood and will never understand.
30. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So profit is where it's at which Apple leads in by a large margin. Do you even think your arguments through?
31. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You still aren't listening. I'm saying that all that matters for any company to succeed is for it to make its own profit.
32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
You posted first in this thread gloating about the t-bolt outselling the iPhone. Now that the facts came out you changed your tune. It's no longer about beating Apple. It's about profit? Remember your patiently waiting post on page 1?
35. Sniggly (Posts: 6404; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
This report is about the Bolt selling higher than the iPhone over the past month, an analysis which is entirely plausible considering the top heavy sales of the iphone. Overall the bolt hasn't outsold the iphone...yet. and if it never does, that's okay.
33. future (unregistered)
2007: iPhone -> the rest
2011: iPhone -> HTC,Samsung
2014: HTC,Samsung -> iPhone
LOL! : )