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One more try: Apple and Samsung hold final patent settlement talks today

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One more try: Apple and Samsung hold final patent settlement talks today
Monday is sort of the eye of the storm when it comes to the Apple v. Samsung trial. Testimony concluded last Friday, and closing statements are scheduled for tomorrow ahead of jury deliberations starting Wednesday. But that doesn’t mean that nothing important is happening today, as Bloomberg is reporting that Kwon Oh Hyun, CEO of Samsung, will be discussing things with Apple’s Tim Cook in a last ditch effort to reach a settlement before things are in the hands of the jury.

The meeting was asked for last week by Judge Koh, who urged the companies to make one last effort at a settlement. Koh referred to herself as “pathologically optimistic” about the possibility of an agreement - we should know by the end of today if Koh’s optimism was warranted, as the two sides have to report the results in court later today.

That won’t be the only topic of discussion in court today – the jury may be getting the day off, but no one else is. Both sides have been hashing out the instructions that are to be read to the jury when they head into deliberations. Both legal teams were reportedly working overtime this weekend, reportedly still filing paperwork until the wee morning hours today. Judge Joh has already warned both sides about the excessive amounts of paperwork they are filing (that was what triggered Koh’s own outburst when she asked if Apple’s lawyers were “smoking crack”), so we think things might get a little testy inside the courthouse today.

Apparently Apple and Samsung have their legal team standing by to hash out the terms of a settlement if the two CEOs can come to an agreement in the generalities; we would like to see this issue get settled (preferably without significantly harming the fans and users of either company’s products) but our optimism doesn’t extend as far as Judge Koh’s.

source: Bloomberg via The Verge

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posted on 20 Aug 2012, 10:43 5

1. ricodroid (Posts: 16; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


well .. it seems this bull**** series is getting over ..

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:27 4

10. tedkord (Posts: 4973; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Wishful thinking. This will be in appeals for years. Not to mention all the new suits to come after.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:27 2

25. snowgator (Posts: 3245; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Sigh..... Unfortunately, I can't find one stinking reason to disagree with you, tedkord. That really depresses me.....

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 10:46 7

2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5876; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


All that overtime billing.... At $750/hour. Lotsa attorneys making coin off this lawsuit.

Hope Apple and Sammy can settle this. Just not holding my breath.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 10:50

4. MeoCao (unregistered)


There's no compromise possible, this is turf war no1 wants to concede.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 10:56 7

5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5876; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Only rarely does a jury vote entirely for one party. If this goes to the jury, expect a mixed result (Apple wins some and Sammy wins some). And the damages will be mixed as well. This could be a really muddy result that neither Apple or Sammy are happy with. This is what judge Koh is stressing to Apple and Sammy - cut a deal that you control, rather than have a deal cut for you that you don't like.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:38 2

13. MeoCao (unregistered)


Problem is both sides think they'll win more than lose, and both sides want to hold high moral ground.

We all know that wars are bad but they happen still, and very often.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:32 2

26. snowgator (Posts: 3245; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Common sense, Doug?? During the Patent wars? From THESE two monoliths? If there were any of that to be found, we would never have gotten to this point and would still have no idea who Judge Koh is.....

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:50 1

29. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5876; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 10:49 4

3. Hammerfest (Posts: 369; Member since: 12 May 2012)


Remember folks, Samsung's $14 per device is nothing like the $30-40 per device Apple wants, and yet Samsung's requested amount is "ridiculous".

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:51 3

18. structureman116 (Posts: 135; Member since: 14 Sep 2010)


Not to mention the fact that supposedly, without Samsung's technology, criphones would be an overpriced paperweight and not just an overpriced smartphone!

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:07 5

6. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


in my country indonesia, there's a local cellphone company named NEXIAN which stands for "Next Generation" they have an iPhone clone called Nexian Magic, the design of that phone is 90% the same as iPhone LOL, i wonder how it was going to be like if apple see this phone

http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0006.jpg

http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0008.jpg

http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0016.jpg

http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0020.jpg

http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0022.jpg

lol what do you think about this ?

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:11 4

7. quakan (Posts: 1199; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


They're just not seen as a threat in Apple's eyes, but if this company starts making some real traction then you can expect a lawsuit. I doubt they ever will make any real traction though.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:14

8. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


oh seriously i laughed until i cry after i saw this phone for the first time......it sells for $170

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:49 3

17. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Why is every-1 Xeroxing iP4 design? It aint all that. Even SONY phones
look much better than iPhone4. Rectangle with ugly curves.
If you look at the Concept iP4 italian or the German designs, they
are all Edge2Edge design; Slick. Stylish. Modern. Contempt. Looking
piece of Art.....

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:20

9. JessJess (unregistered)


Is it the kind of settlement talk where Tim Cook sits down, looks at Kwon Oh Hyun and says "How about a magic trick?"

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:32 4

11. tedkord (Posts: 4973; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


More likely its the kind where Tim Cook looks his opponent right in the eye, and says, "Alright, in the name of peace, I'm authorized to up our offer for your 3g patents from one tenth of a penny per device to one fifth of a penny per device, if you agree to pay us $30 per device for our shapes."

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:33 1

12. gallitolimitededition (banned) (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


at first I wanted this to end, but not anymore as this will carry into the phones making them more competetive

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:44

15. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Gallitoking is that u.... Aha another acount?

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:48 1

16. gallitolimitededition (banned) (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


yes is me.. just chillin not trying to troll, just killing time until I came back from being limited lol

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:56 2

20. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


i new it was you! Where is Taco? How come hes, he dosent post! LMAO "not trying to TROLL" Its a bit booring with out you and Taco commenting, along with your other convoys. How is you?

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:05 3

22. gallitolimitededition (banned) (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


Taco is not limited so we will hear from him as for me I am doing well getting to come back on Thursday hope you are doing good as well

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:23 1

24. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Im cool Galli.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 15:03 1

30. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


what up G?

yeah its been pretty lame in here with you TROLL remixfa Snigg and Taco limited...

good to see you all slowly coming back...

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 22:02

31. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)


gallito, are you really an apple fan, or just an android fan trolling...

it would be funny both ways

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:42 3

14. MartyK (Posts: 716; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Samsung would be a fool to settle with them.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:52 1

19. Aeires (unregistered)


Jesse Jackson to the rescue!

On a serious note, appeals are probably on the way.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 11:58

21. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


I wish, hope they settle this instead ov knowing the out-come!

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:23 2

23. Savage (unregistered)


Haven't they sat before and tried to negotiate before numerous times? And that didn't achieve anything.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:36 2

27. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


Yes, they have. The working hypothesis here is that as it becomes obvious that neither side is going to win everything they want that there is more pressure to come to an agreement, as going before a jury could (and probably will) result in a ruling that neither side is particularly happy with.

posted on 20 Aug 2012, 12:46 1

28. Savage (unregistered)


So one is actually winning over the other. Neither side can stop the growth of other. All it's coming down to is compensation.

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