Judge Koh to Apple lawyers: Are you smoking crack?

Judge Koh to Apple lawyers: Are you smoking crack?
As court began today Judge Lucy Koh was again exhorting the two sides to find a way to make peace with one another, and her patience with both sides is clearly wearing thin. As Samsung winds down its case today, Apple was getting ready to launch its rebuttal witnesses. Despite having a couple short hours left in its allotted time, Apple presented Koh with a 75 page briefing covering more than 20 potential rebuttal witnesses.

Judge Koh was not amused. She responded in total shock that Apple would even pretend that such a large witness list could be called in their remaining time:

"I mean come on. 75 pages! 75 pages! You want me to do an order on 75 pages” Koh said, “Unless you're smoking crack, you know these witnesses aren't going to be called when you have less than four hours!”

While Apple’s lawyer dead-panned "You're honor, I can assure you, I'm not smoking crack,” they may want to reconsider their strategy. Koh has already warned both sides that they are filing too much paperwork, indicating that she and her staff simply can not keep up with the reams of paper filed by both sides’ giant legal teams.

Koh explicitly warned Apple’s lawyers that there may be consequences for this course of action, indicating that "If it turns out I went through 75 pages for people who are not going to be called, I am going to think of a proper tax for that." Regardless of what Apple’s lawyers are or are not smoking, they may want to rethink their filing if they don’t want to end up losing time, possibly from their closing statements.

source: Cnet



1. good2great

Posts: 1042; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

lol yall still dont like her huh?

19. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Our earliest evaluations of her may have been too harsh. While one can't deny some of the dumbass decisions she's made regarding Samsung's case, she has begun to redeem herself as of late.

27. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

If you recall, our early early evaluations of her (months ago, before this trial) were pretty positive, as she seemed to cut through BS and had a bit of an attitude with fillibustering lawyers. Maybe we're seeing that side of her again!

32. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

I believe it's that time of the month and she's at risk of losing her job if she does comply with Apple's wishes.

70. MeoCao unregistered

Haha, best comment evevr about judge Koh, seriously.

77. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

I am just happy the android camp have refrained from (a) making racist remarks because she's asian, (b) making personal attacks on her qualifications (despite having a Harvard Law Degree), etc., etc. I don't have a problem if you disagree with her actions, or just don't like her as a person but can we please refrain from the lynch mob mentality (such as the one p0rkguy is advocating). As I stated before, she has a thankless job. I don't want to be in her shoe.

93. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

yes, because its "the android camp" that always makes racist remarks and personal attacks. Why even write the first bit? really? oi....

100. samystic

Posts: 242; Member since: Mar 25, 2012

just logged in to thank you for one of the most meaningful comment made on PhoneArena - a place for trolls and anti people... samystic

28. jaytai0106

Posts: 1888; Member since: Mar 30, 2011

If I were her, I would throw out the whole case and taken patents from both companies by now. Instead of suing each other, they could have sat down and discuss the matter like grown up. All the money is wasted for nothing really. Why don't they decide to use that money invest in a cell phone battery that can holds 3 times the charge as the current battery. Everyone in this world would be much happier. Form factors look similar? Haven't you realized a lot of cars now these days kind of look alike, and we never hear about any law suit. Give all us a break and give us a better battery!!!!!!!!!!!!!

45. prophet

Posts: 10; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

I was just thinking that the other day. It's like Ford deciding they are going to sue every other manufacturer for having side mirrors, a rectangular glass windscreen and a steering wheel for maneuver control. Apple is taking advantage of an obviously broken patent system because it's the only way they know how to compete. If only they were to take all that money they're throwing at their lawyers and shoved it in their R&D department. And for anyone who's going to respond with "Apple has a legal right to protect their intellectual and physical property" can save their breath. Apple is just as guilty as any other company of "borrowing" ideas and making a profit off them

74. Teejay1100

Posts: 115; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

Well said, was thinking the same exact thing!!

51. SuperMaoriBro

Posts: 533; Member since: Jun 23, 2012

A better example is found in other electronics. look how similar TVs all look - do you see those manufacturers suing each other?

59. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Your analogy is a bit premature - Apple isn't yet in the TV market. Once they start selling their Apple-branded TVs, I expect the lawsuits to fly fast and furious. Even with the same protagonists (Apple and Sammy).

76. Forsaken77

Posts: 553; Member since: Jun 09, 2011

Wait till Apple enters the TV market... you'll see it then.

50. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Interesting how early victories can foster hubris that becomes counter-productive. This is definitely a set-back of consequence for Apple.

58. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Poor Judge Koh trying to reason with the unreasonable. Hope you come to your senses and don't take the whole world down with you.

65. GuiltyBystander

Posts: 199; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

Yes, I still don't like her.

91. SamsungThief

Posts: 3; Member since: Aug 18, 2012

Koh is debilating her image defending a company like Samsung who not only steals the exact merchanddise designs, but also steals the exact actors which Apple uses. Samsung displays behavior of targeting Apple and those ads using the exact actors, advertising a similar product is evidence of a direct and veiled attack against Apple. Koh can never be a judge because she is already showing bias toward the claimant. You can't decide a case before it starts, or you are abusing the power trustingly given to you and that, is illegal. Those who believe Samsung's Google Android products are cheap knockoffs of Apple's iPhone and iPad were given more ammo this week when it emerged that Samsung hired the same exact child actress as Apple to star in the ads for its new tablet. Samsung Hires Exact actress as Apple did to Star In Their Ad for the Same Product Samsung Displays Intent to Imitate and Copy Every Aspect of Applehttp://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/who-is- little-miss-tablet-samsung-accused-of-acting-up-in -battle-with-apple-20120103-1piwy.html

92. ncv144

Posts: 126; Member since: May 04, 2012

This guy is smoking more crack than apple lawyers, actors can be hired by anyone for any purpose, their job is to act.

95. Googlethis

Posts: 179; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

ncv has a point but like verizon did with the guy that says "can you hear me now" they patented the charracter he played. so no other company can use him as the same characters or apear in similar clothing with simliar props that would make them apear simlilar in the new ad at least thats my understanding and i am not saying that samsung products look like apples so they would be fine for use in the adds. granted thats up to the judge to deside

102. newscollector

Posts: 2; Member since: Aug 22, 2012

You're retarded. These actresses and actors which Samsung stole are advertising a similar, if not exact product which Apple is trying to sell, in this case a cell phone. ncv144 Shut up. You are so worthless. Everyone spread the word and ignore useless trolls like ncv144 read “Apple has produced images of Samsung products and other evidence that provide a reasonable basis for Apple’s belief that Samsung’s new products are designed to mimic Apple’s products,” said Koh. http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/24/apple-steals-a-glance-at-five-upcoming-samsung-products-legally/ shut up

104. Googlethis

Posts: 179; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

As long as apple didn't patent the charracter of each person they use.(wich they probably did. God forbid they don't patent every thing they think or do.) Samsung can use the actors still use the actors they can't be dressed they same or resemble apple commercials (wich i am sure some of the apple fans out there will say "Well all cell phone companies are copying apple because there are people in there commercial using smartphones to help sell there products"). Of course apple could of made them sighn a contract stating they can't work for other companies for a set amount of years. Then it would be the actors at fault and possibly the company that hired them. or at least thats my understanding of commercial advertisment laws work. I am sure there close thousands of loop holes.

103. newscollector

Posts: 2; Member since: Aug 22, 2012

This Koh woman is egoistic and mindlessly inconsiderate for a person who is paid with taxpayers' money for residing in a case involving a company from Korea who deceiveth and snatches away Apple patents. Koh is a criminal who is breaking the moral standards of business conduct, the defense Samsung clearly stole from Apple. We have read that Samsung even steals actors and actresses Apple Apple iPhone commercials. Koh Attempts to defend Samsung also in the midst of these daunting tests can be classified as malicious scam the general public for profit and self-preservation. Those who believe Google Android products are cheap imitations of Apple's iPhone and iPad were given more ammo this week when it emerged that Samsung hired the same child actress as Apple to star exactly advertising its new tablet. When Samsung was discovered and caught stealing the same exact actors for their commercials like a bent-over thief, Samsung started quickly erasing all the videos off of Youtube in an attempt to suppress evidence. Koh is smoking crack. Apple is simply fed up with Samsung and Koh's tactics of media manipulation, Koh and Samsung refuse to play by the rules set forth in agreement by every businessman/woman. Please note that not all Asians are as bad as the Koreans, the Chinese and Japanese are kind and normal people, and accordingly all of Asia are independent minded thoughtful people, and are your allies. They won’t act like Koreans and copy every single aspect of Apple the same exact actors. They won’t lie like the Koreans after they are discovered stealing. Samsung Hires Exact actress as Apple did to Star In Their Ad for the Same Product Samsung Displays Intent to Imitate and Copy Every Aspect of Applehttp://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/who-is-little-miss-tablet-samsung-accused-of-acting-up-in-battle-with-apple-20120103-1piwy.html Samsung steals iPhone ad actress for Galaxy Tab commercialhttp://9to5mac.com/2012/01/02/samsung-steals-iphone-ad-actress-for-galaxy-tab-commercial/ Samsung Accused of Stealing Apple Acting Talent, Samsung Then Quickly Pulls Adhttp://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/samsung_accused_of_stealing_apple_acting_talent_pulls_ad/

2. SGSatlantis

Posts: 227; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

With the money Apple throws around on lawsuits, seems likely.

3. smdeezy

Posts: 66; Member since: Jun 17, 2011

She's starting to grow on me.

4. techguy22

Posts: 227; Member since: Aug 09, 2012

"You're honor, I can assure you, I'm not smoking crack,” priceless

34. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

I love the picture in the article. xD

52. StringCheese01

Posts: 64; Member since: Jan 27, 2012

me too


Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Nice Avatar.

37. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

Course no. The drug of choice for expensive high profile attorneys is, you guessed it, cocaine...lol!!!

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