HP Spectre 13 x2 is the first fanless tablet with Haswell, runs Win 8 on the hush
1. boosook (Posts: 1413; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Really can't see the point. It's too big to be a tablet, and not powerful enough to be a notebook.
2. muhsen (Posts: 280; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
u probably didn't read the title well enough , it runs on haswell i.e the 4th gen core processors (i3/i5/i7)...isn't that powerful enough ???????!!!
3. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Forgive him. He lives in a the past, like 5 years ago.
10. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Nah i wouldn't forgive people who never do research. I came to this article expecting someone to get upset at the haswell architecture and that's what always ALWAYS happens in windows 8 tablet pc articles. It never fails...
6. boosook (Posts: 1413; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I didn't say that it wasn't powerful enough, but that it wasn't powerful enough to be considered a notebook replacement. And if you consider it as a tablet, it's too expensive and and too big.
First of all, the storage is limited to 64 or 128gb, with a considerable amount of space that will be used by windows, given that it's the full windows 8. That's ok for a tablet or an ultraportable, but this thing is expensive, if the 64gb version will cost $1100.
Next, it will be powered by Haswell... which Haswell? There will be many versions of Haswell-based chips, and if the battery will last 7,5 hours (with a 13'' screen to power), you can be sure that they'll choose a low-power solution, and it's obvious, because this thing must become a tablet and the battery should last all day. So, even if it's clear that a new architecture brings better performance and less power consumption, miracles are still our Lord's prerogative. It will never have the performance of a desktop or even of a notebook, that can pack a much heavier and capable battery and thus use a more powerful (Haswell) processor.
Bottom line: this object won't be as powerful as a notebook yet it will have a very high price and won't be portable and cheap as a tablet. The market has already left 900 million dollars of Surface tablets on the shelves, when will Microsoft understand that people are not interested in this tablet/pc mixing that is not good neither as a tablet nor as a pc?
8. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
wowowow slow dont panic try to think positive like atlest they are moving the technology in correct direction. its powerfull or not but soon this is the trend thats gonna be dominant so let it grow
9. duder52 (Posts: 27; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
There is a market for tablet/pc hybrids. That is the future and is what I want. Although I'm not sure if this model is the exact format I need. I do some basic graphics work and this is something that suits me. It is plenty powerful to be a notebook as not everyone one is an intense gamer or video editor where they need the best chips out there. For my needs old core 2 duo's from 6+ years ago do just fine, and that is how it is for the majority of and the average person. These new chips will be far superior in speed and battery performance regardless of which version goes in this device.
11. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
It's too big to be a tablet for YOU; it's not powerful enough to be a notebook for YOU. Really, that's just what it is for you.
I agree on the expensive part, but we should all wait and see for when they start introducing more variations to compete. I'm not digging the ridiculous price on low memory SSDs/flash memories on everything coming out lately, though.
15. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)
"First of all, the storage is limited to 64 or 128gb"
With 128GB version plus SD and micro SD, you can have 256GB total (ssd)
With 64GB version - 192GB
14. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)
It's as powerful as MBAir , and tablet option is great feature fo touch screen.
7.5h battery is only for the tablet. How much is with keybord battery is unknown yet.
No fans, is amazing, if works well.
And the price for all that, it is great too. (for now)
16. derylrobinson (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Sep 2013)
The popularity of iPad and the way they have replaced PC's for a lot of people proves to me that most people who owned PC's never really needed the power of a PC because all they were doing was email and web surfing. There are many more of us who do need more than a giant phone (ie, the iPad) but don't need the power that someone like a graphics designer or a gamer needs. I for one have a Surface Pro and find it perfect for my needs. I am a heavy user of the whole Windows Office suite and need the full versions of them, not the work-arounds you can get on ios or Droid. I also use a powerful pdf viewer called Bluebeam Revu and use it to mark up plans, specifications, and contracts. Something like an iPad can't do this, but since I am always on the run it's limiting to have to wait to get back to my desk to do a lot of things. So a tablet-sized PC is an awesome solution for me. The Surface Pro does it. Granted the battery life is a drawback, so I eagerly anticipate what they will do with the new chip. For large plan review projects small screen size is limiting, but that's one of the ways that the Surface is superior to an Ipad. With the HDMI port I can plug right into a monitor for those tasks. As for memory, it's not a problem. Between the microSD port, the USB port, and cloud back up, it's just not an issue.
17. derylrobinson (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Sep 2013)
I think the reason Microsoft has not moved the Surface Pro's is they did a crappy job of getting the word out to the right people. The original ad campaign was aimed and kids and gamers. Sorry guys, but most kids are too focused on goofing off and playing to get the value of a Surface Pro. For those of us who actually need to produce all day and need to multi-task to stay ahead of the competition, the PC tablet is one of the best tools to ever come along.
Windows also should have never let anyone ship a non-touch screen PC with Windows 8. That was plain stupid, because people with only keyboard/mouse interface just don't get it and have only frustration.
4. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
Well most certainly, a bigger news is that it is the first loop motion integrated laptop.
5. McLTE (Posts: 804; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
love the concept.. but ouch at 1099 to start. MS needs to bring this pricepoint down to sell many
12. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I don't think MS has a saying on the price of this hybrid. Wouldn't it be HP as it is their product? I'm curious now.
7. valapsp (Posts: 552; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
The question is: This one or the Acer Aspire S7?
13. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Aspire S7 is a full laptop, screen isn't detachable or rotatable like a convertible or tablet with a dock. As such, it's more expensive.