Apple stays away and one step ahead of Samsung with A13 chip production for 2019 iPhones

Apple stays away and one step ahead of Samsung with A13 chip production for 2019 iPhones
Apple’s 2019 iPhones are undoubtedly still many months away, but that can’t stop the rumor mill from already churning at full speed in regards to names, differences between models, camera specifications, possible camera layouts, ports and various other details.

One of the very few tidbits you can probably take to the bank is the manufacturer of the Apple A13 SoC. For the fourth year in a row, the Cupertino-based tech giant is expected to join forces with semiconductor behemoth TSMC on a smartphone chipset likely to give the competition a run for its money in terms of both raw speed and energy efficiency.

TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company) was first rumored to be exclusively handling A13 production a few months back, and now Digitimes adds fuel to the speculation fire by anticipating a Q2 manufacturing start.

The Apple-designed A12, A11, and A10 chips used on 2018, 2017, and 2016 iPhone generations have all come from TSMC’s factories, while 2015’s A9 production was shared by the Taiwanese pure-play semiconductor foundry with arch-rival Samsung.

Samsung also exclusively made the A7 processor of the iPhone 5s for Apple, but in recent years, the competition between the two major smartphone vendors has intensified. A number of other key iPhone components, starting with OLED screens, still come from Samsung, although Apple is working on alternatives and partnerships with backup suppliers.

At the same time, TSMC has been able to make greater chipset technology progress at a faster pace than Samsung, scoring among others a highly lucrative contract for Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 production.

The Samsung-made Snapdragon 845 is widely considered inferior to TSMC’s A12 Bionic, and Apple hopes the A13 will be able to eclipse the Snapdragon 855 as well. The processor under the hood of the iPhone XI is tipped to adopt the same 7 nm architecture as the 855, but with a twist allowing it to achieve significantly higher speeds.

We’re talking about extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV) technology, which Samsung is likely to integrate into its own next-gen in-house Exynos chipset. But that’s probably going to arrive later than the Apple A13.

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42 Comments

1. BLUEBLASTER

Posts: 926; Member since: Feb 23, 2014

Yeah but the SD865 will beat that next year...........

2. Phonehex

Posts: 758; Member since: Feb 16, 2016

Except for bragging rights, all flagship chipsets are good. 99.99% of the people wont even know the difference. Hell even 2017 flagship processors are more than capable for handling everything thrown at them.

4. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

But you don't buy powerful device only for today use, you buy it so you can enjoy that power in coming years too. And now when people keep their phones longer and longer it's even more important to have powerful future proof device which can run everything in future too.

17. iushnt

Posts: 3085; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

All flagship chips today are powerful enough to go for 4-5 years.

23. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

Even my Moto X 2014 with SD801 is running fine.

3. scarface21173

Posts: 657; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Expect the same phone with a better chip, and samey software. basicllay incremental update.

5. Georgio

Posts: 220; Member since: Nov 21, 2016

Just like Samsung. S8,S9,S10 are the same, basically incremental update

6. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

When a phone packs as much as a Galaxy, even incremental change is still big.

7. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

That doesn't make any sense. Earlier galaxies packed too as much so still incremental update. So how the change is big? ;) Also if the changes are big, why the sales are bad?

12. scarface21173

Posts: 657; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Midan, sales are bad because of price just like apple. i predict sales to fall further this year.

13. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

sales are bad because incremental chances, just like Georgio said.

18. scarface21173

Posts: 657; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

So you expect sales to increase with the galaxy F considerebly. I dont, why, again price.

9. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1817; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

All that processing power to push iMessage games and let spying eyes hack facetime call you faster... Apple please add real world features like picture in picture/splitscreen multitasking or there will be no need for me to upgrade my XS Max...

33. shm224

Posts: 283; Member since: Mar 19, 2015

instead of this pointless benchmark race, Apple should focus on battery power efficiency.

10. Peaceboy

Posts: 640; Member since: Oct 11, 2018

Here comes the beast! Gonna get one for sure and will trade Xs Max.

11. Donone41

Posts: 246; Member since: Dec 17, 2014

You're not trading anything because you don't own an XS max. The phone you probably have is an iPhone 6, so cut your crap. Isheep always act like they're baller when in fact they're a bunch of broke asses who wish they have. Stay in your lane pauper.

14. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

Wow those words really hit you :)

16. Donone41

Posts: 246; Member since: Dec 17, 2014

Not as hard as how mine hit you.

19. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

Why would those words hit me? :D You only sound a bitter and jealous boy.

40. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 359; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

Bcoz those words applies to you as well :D :D

20. OneLove123

Posts: 966; Member since: Aug 28, 2018

You mean your phone 4 with a broken screen?

15. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1376; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

The Note 10 is rumored to come with an Exynos 9825, a 7nm EUV SoC, not the 9820 8nm FinFet that the S10 models will get. I'm curious to see how big the difference will be, especially in batterylife. Samsung's EUV process is also much more specialized than TSMC, which is basically just a modification of their 7nm FinFet production lines. Odds are Samsung will experience less problems and higher gains than TSMC will.

25. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

"Samsung's EUV process is also much more specialized than TSMC" I don't think anyone have seen both EUV processes to form an opinion; how do you know which is better?!

27. Marcwand3l

Posts: 426; Member since: May 08, 2017

"Samsung is the most aggressive in their approach with their first generation 7nm logic process utilizing EUV for 7 layers, Samsung is ramping that process up now. TSMC is offering a second generation 7nm process with 6 EUV layers and that process is due to ramp early next year." "TSMC is integrating EUV into an existing node. Samsung, in contrast, is deploying 7nm and EUV simultaneously. "

29. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I did a little research and I have found that the actual TSMC tech is better than what Samsung is going to produce (bigger density, less minimum surface, better patterning, worse yields) and the 2nd generation is only going to improve the results. But I should stay away from things that I don't fully understand, and this is one of those things. I wish them both the best of luck!

30. Marcwand3l

Posts: 426; Member since: May 08, 2017

>I did a little research and I have found that the actual TSMC tech is better than what Samsung is going to produce

31. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

When I see that TSMC 1st gen. tech can put more transistors on the same surface (has smaller gate lengths), is able to use more layers and has better patterns, I tend to think it is better than what Samsung has declared for the 7nm LPP and the 2nd gen. will also be better. But I might be wrong and putting less transistors on the same chip could be better...

36. Marcwand3l

Posts: 426; Member since: May 08, 2017

See you're back. So predictable.

38. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Just sayin’...

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