Wozniak on Apple's closed products: "I don't like being in the Apple eco-system"

Wozniak on Apple's closed products:
Last week when the Apple iPad Pro was launched, Apple CEO Tim Cook said thanks to the 12.9-inch tablet, there is no reason to buy a PC anymore. Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak disagrees. Speaking Friday at a conference organized by analytics firm NewRelic, The Woz says that he is "more of a laptop-based guy." He adds that tablets have been "limited" for him.

You won't find Wozniak doing an ad for the Apple Watch. He said at the conference that there are days when he forgets to wear the smartwatch, and doesn't realize it. He calls that a bad sign for the timepiece. The Woz did say that the Apple Watch is improving, which he attributes to the growing number of  better apps for the device. He says that with the improvements in app availability, the watch now is worth a little more than its starting price of $349. Wozniak is not a big fan of smartwatches in general, saying that they are just a 'middleman' between himself and his phone.

According to the man who started Apple with Steve Jobs, Wozniak says that Jobs still influences decisions made by the company more than four years after his death. This can be seen in the closed nature of Apple products, something that The Woz is not happy with. "I don’t like being in the Apple ecosystem. I don’t like being trapped. I like being independent," he said.

source: Fortune

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1. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I'm no longer locked in, the Note series is now my daily.

4. Scott93274

Posts: 6033; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Yeah, but you'll still get the iPhone 7 when it's released next fall though. It's sorta your family ritual.

5. French_Toast

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Even if it is gold, apple jail remains a jail.

9. Scott93274

Posts: 6033; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Umm... alright, if you say so.

13. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Yeah, but Apple is one helluva jail to be in. That walled garden is the size of a planet. Everyone caters to it.

20. HildyJ

Posts: 338; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

If you want to be a bird in a gilded cage, go for it. Like Woz, I prefer to spead my wings and fly.

32. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

See post 1, then fly.

51. Diezparda

Posts: 941; Member since: Oct 23, 2013

Ouchie... but he deserve it anyway. Apple may have many restriction and there some benefit too (like one stop shopping iTunes store, OS update & at least they always offer a good all-rounder device), there's no perfect phone for everyone but i'm glad using both Android & iOS platform.

56. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Yep, you're right bro. It's got great benefits, and I'll continue using both. He did leave himself open too lol.


Posts: 35; Member since: Nov 15, 2015

Like millions of others, I really believed the hype. I never thought I would utter these words, but here goes: I’m leaving you. I have already traded in my iPhone for a Samsung. Now, this is the point where I know I’m expected to say: “it’s not you, it’s me,” but I can’t, because the truth is: “it’s not me, it’s you”. Now, I know you don’t like lists (at least I presume that’s why you avoided including a task application in Mac OS and iOS for so many years) but it’s only right that I run through the issues:

12. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I have the 6S Plus now, but my Note 5 is my daily driver. If I get the 7 Plus, the Note 6 will be my daily driver. It's not what I own, but what I now rely on day to day...hence (daily driver).

19. French_Toast

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Apple is so 1984...

33. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Not their stock price

47. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I think he's talking about the Apple 1984 commercial.

66. Jango

Posts: 376; Member since: Oct 24, 2014

I was secretly impressed with your post 1 and subsequent posts until I read this one. No one cares if dictators are filthy rich (see the Saudi royal family), it's completely arbitrary and a red herring in this discussion, unless you are investing in Apple stocks or are related to the Saudis. BTW, I HAVE been giving you thumbs up, especially for post 34. I have the 6P and my partner has the 6Plus. I use both phones and have them more often than my partner does. Not forgetting two generations of the iPad.

27. twens

Posts: 1175; Member since: Feb 25, 2012

hello Darkkjedii, i have the 6 plus and want to switch to the note 5 mainly because of the camera and extra screen.between the two phones which has a much better battery life? suppose i install the doze app on the note 5, would it be on par with or have better battery life than the 6 plus?

29. HouTexan

Posts: 461; Member since: Jan 08, 2012

I have the Note 5 and the battery life is amazing.

34. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

OK bro, real talk. I have both phones, and allow both to do heavy hitting. The iPhone has the better standby time by quite a bit, but under usage they're very close. Since the iPhone does less: doesn't power a stylus, 2K screen, 8 core processor, multi window pic n pic etc, it naturally gets better battery life, but only slightly so. The days I carry the iphone, at the end of my work day, it's about 76-80%, the notes about 72-76% that small margin is justified by how frigging bad ass the Note is, and just how much it does. I'd say keep both, but if you're gonna carry one, carry the Note. The Samsung smart switcher app will bring over everything, other than your music. It's simply the best phone I've used, and it'll be my daily driver from here on out. I put them thru the paces to see which would be the main device, and the Note won out. Too much power, sexiness, versatility, great battery life, and dependability. The iPhone is a top notch device that I love, but I'm in love with the Note 5. That's my honest opinion bro. Good luck, and enjoy your tech. +1

46. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

To add to this when the note 5 get updated in December to android 6.0 the battery will be better, if you out of the USA you get better battery now and 100% if you got the new software update that add the new app control to the battery manager

52. UglyFrank

Posts: 2194; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

I got that app optimiser on my S5 last week, today I stayed on 29% whilst listening to music (with background restrictions, low brightness and power saving mode on) for about 30mins

62. joevsyou

Posts: 1091; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

thats not even count how many more features android as over ios, Also with apple releasing their apple music on android you can listen to your bought music from itunes on android

65. Pdubb

Posts: 249; Member since: Aug 08, 2011

Why are there only a few green pluses in this post? I wasn't sure about the Note 5 (I've had the 3 and now the 4) but you sure gave a fair and balanced review that helps my decision.

67. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Thanx bro, just being honest.

73. Floyd1

Posts: 21; Member since: Feb 06, 2015

Just wanted to add that Smart Switch does bring over music from iTunes to Samsung devices. It just requires a direct connection between the devices using a OTG cable or having Smartswitch installed on the computer that iTunes is on.

74. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Thanx, didn't know that. I did the transfer OTA.

77. Topcat488

Posts: 1415; Member since: Sep 29, 2012

Plus one green thumb from ME, for keeping it honest... An App called "AirDroid" in the Play Store, will bring EVERYTHING except game apps over to your Android device... WOW, I'm loving the new HONEST darkkjedii, Stay honest bro, PEACE. O.o

39. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

You can't really say that until you see what they each offer.

41. darkkjedii

Posts: 31057; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

True, but Apple is predictable due to its conservative approach, and also everything leaks now. Samsung takes risks, and will take the cutting edge approach. I also know the the brands I'm most comfortable with. They'll be my purchases, and have been since the Note 2/5.

48. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Hi dark, spec of the note 6 will be the same as the limited edition s7 I.e. 4K with 14 core Gpu

72. Mercedes-Benz

Posts: 403; Member since: Jan 18, 2015

So for you now its note + iPad + mac ? Same with me currently

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