Wozniak on Apple's closed products: "I don't like being in the Apple eco-system"

Wozniak on Apple's closed products: "I don't like being in the Apple eco-system"
Last week when the Apple iPad Pro was launched, Apple CEO Tim Cook said thanks to the 12.9-inch tablet, there is no reason to buy a PC anymore. Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak disagrees. Speaking Friday at a conference organized by analytics firm NewRelic, The Woz says that he is "more of a laptop-based guy." He adds that tablets have been "limited" for him.

You won't find Wozniak doing an ad for the Apple Watch. He said at the conference that there are days when he forgets to wear the smartwatch, and doesn't realize it. He calls that a bad sign for the timepiece. The Woz did say that the Apple Watch is improving, which he attributes to the growing number of  better apps for the device. He says that with the improvements in app availability, the watch now is worth a little more than its starting price of $349. Wozniak is not a big fan of smartwatches in general, saying that they are just a 'middleman' between himself and his phone.

According to the man who started Apple with Steve Jobs, Wozniak says that Jobs still influences decisions made by the company more than four years after his death. This can be seen in the closed nature of Apple products, something that The Woz is not happy with. "I don’t like being in the Apple ecosystem. I don’t like being trapped. I like being independent," he said.

source: Fortune

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74 Comments

76. Supersonic

Posts: 226; Member since: May 15, 2015

Iphone 6S plus really look like a joke when compared with Note5.

70. shieryar

Posts: 24; Member since: Jun 03, 2012

"I don’t like being in the Apple ecosystem. I don’t like being trapped. I like being independent"

61. joevsyou

Posts: 1093; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

this guy gets it, maybe he should be the ceo...

54. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

somebody please give him surface pro and adroid wear... lol

53. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

The iPad pro is a joke. It's just a giant iPad.lol There really isn't much you can do with the operating system. I thought they would have added more windows and OSX features.

59. .VELOCITY.

Posts: 35; Member since: Nov 15, 2015

Apple’s culture of secrecy, it’s alleged, is partly responsible for the death of a 25-year-old Chinese worker who committed suicide after losing a prototype iPhone. It’s claimed that Apple subcontractors are so scared of the firm’s wrath they put unbearable pressure on their employees

42. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Got both now. Sort of trade off. Love iMessage. Kinda miss drag and drop files. Miss closing all recent apps with a x. At least on Note anyways. Don't know about pure Android. Battery life really good on the 6s plus. Just use the Note on wifi now.

35. 99nights

Posts: 1152; Member since: Mar 10, 2015

Wow the Woz doesn't seem very impressed with apple products and the eco system. Imagine still being a CEO of a company that you don't like.

36. 99nights

Posts: 1152; Member since: Mar 10, 2015

Co founder *

26. slvnofrr

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 27, 2015

The reason why I never bought a iphone

25. cncrim

Posts: 1591; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Motox pure is great, nice if has finger scanner.

30. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

I agree, too bad it didn't have the finger print scanner, otherwise it's an amazing phone for the price.

22. SSJSim

Posts: 12; Member since: Oct 17, 2014

Steve Wozniak is awesome. Totally agree with him. I have a 6S Plus and I hate being trapped in the iOS ecosystem at times. There are several instances where I go, "Dammit, I can't change this either? Ahh." I know closed source platforms may look like they appeal to the average consumers, but in reality I know a lot of folks that aren't tech savvy and get frustrated with iOS, so they switch to Android. For example, one of my friends is a big fan of underground music and those artists will generally upload their EPs to websites for free downloads. Long story short, I told him there's ultimately no way of putting it in your phone without using iTunes and a computer. I wish the stock iOS (meaning sans jailbreak) would allow moderate-to-expert users to play with their iPhone at their own risk if they please.

24. Furbal unregistered

Default apps, file manager for downloads/file transfers and a back button were easily my most missed items during my few month stint with a 6 plus early this year

14. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3109; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

Bad timing as Apple needs to advertise the iPad Pro.

11. cdm283813

Posts: 424; Member since: Jan 10, 2015

I played with the iPad Pro today and was impressed for maybe 3 minutes. I turned around picked up a old iPad mini 2 and was more impressed with it due to the feel of it. The iPad pro just does not make a whole lot of sense for your average consumer. We don't need a iPad mini/iPad 9.7" replacement.

10. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

"The Woz says that he is "more of a laptop-based guy." He adds that tablets have been "limited" for him." 100% agree with you Wozniak. Bastardized arm tablets were never appealing to me and I'd still be using my 2008 HP Laptop with Windows 10 today, without any tablet within reach, if it weren't for the Surface Pro replacing it and merging the benefits of a Tablet + Wacom board into my workflow. "Wozniak is not a big fan of smartwatches in general, saying that they are just a 'middleman' between himself and his phone." A major reason why I'm not buying one, but frankly, Blocks' future proof modular design is really tempting...might consider the second generation of Blocks when many of the sensors are integrated into the core, similar to Microsoft's Band 2, then I'd use batteries and maybe 1 special component in the strap. "I don’t like being in the Apple ecosystem. I don’t like being trapped. I like being independent," 100% agreed again! Through out my over half-decade of using iPhones, I never could rely on the official stuff, always had to be jailbroken to be worth using. Mac OS X, that's just a restrictive and compatibility breaking haven, even apple themselves know that thei mac users would want Windows, hence why they integrated it in El Capitan's boot camp.

23. Furbal unregistered

I think pebble/fossil are getting the connected devices right. Keep it simple with good battery life. Liking my Q Grant very much, helps that it looks like a real watch - it just vibrates and lights up for notifications.

6. JMartin22

Posts: 2429; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

I don't really like to customize the OS by flashing custom ROMs or other system tweaks, but even without doing that, Android still just feels more malleable

8. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

I don't do the custom ROMs thing, but my home screen is littered with various widgets, making for a much more useful, productive environment than what Apple could offer me.

18. Awalker

Posts: 1988; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

I just have one home screen now with one widget I made with Zooper, two folders and the dock icons. I have Google Now a swipe away with the Google Now launcher. I don't feel the need to customize as much as I did in the early years of Android.

28. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

I'm always switching widgets but I have a few that I find useful; Google Fit, Calendar, Keep, Stocks, generic clock, weather...

69. Jango

Posts: 376; Member since: Oct 24, 2014

I have a couple fixed widgets, including a month calendar with text to show appointments, 4 tasks lists stroke to-do lists, another listview widget of all my future engagements that scroll chronologically. A large clock of course front and centre of the main homescreen. I rarely need remember to open these apps to remind myself of my appointments or tasks, THEY do the reminding FOR me, as soon as I wake my phone. Now that's smart.

3. Bernoulli

Posts: 4364; Member since: Sep 01, 2012

Ouch, that's a pretty bad sign for the co founder of apple to say he feels trapped, but then again, didn't we all know this before?

7. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

It's nothing new, Wozniak has always had aspirations of moving the platform to a more open nature like Android. If you search for it online, you'll find lots of articles to back this up. Though I don't know what kind of influence he has on the business these days, I imagine not much to be honest.

64. Bernoulli

Posts: 4364; Member since: Sep 01, 2012

Ditto on that, he even preferred the surface pro 3 over iPad air 2 128 Gb. He's a visionary, but sadly he can no longer influence the company.

71. DnB925Art

Posts: 1168; Member since: May 23, 2013

I remember one time he was interviewed and they took a picture of what he carried on him. In his bag was a collection of both iPhones and Android phones. I remember one time he even went to Google to pick up a Galaxy Nexus. Hes a true lover of all things tech and never limits himself to one platform, even though he was a co-founder of Apple. I also like his honesty, even if he criticizes a platform since I know he has at least used that platform and not just pulling these criticisms out of the air.

15. Awalker

Posts: 1988; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

I don't take that guy seriously. It seems like he's not all there.

16. sipha

Posts: 440; Member since: May 12, 2012

I would bet everything I have that his smarter than you.. the guy is just not a complete fan boy!!!

21. Awalker

Posts: 1988; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Could be but what does that have to do with anything I said?

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