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Verizon is making changes for new device upgrades

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Verizon is making changes for new device upgrades
In light of Lowell McAdam's recent comments that it would be "pretty easy" to end contract pricing for Verizon customers, perhaps the latest moves by Big Red make a lot of sense. Where the carrier used to allow customers to upgrade to a new phone 20 months into a 24 month contract, that little good will gesture by Verizon is now gone. Subscribers need to complete the entire length of the contract in order to receive a subsidized price for the next device. Customers still have the chance to buy a new device at the full retail price before their pact expires. The good news is that starting on April 21st, some devices will be eligible for purchase through the Verizon Wireless Device Payment Plan

The New Every Two program was discontinued by Verizon in January 2011, although customers were allow to keep the credits they earned under the plan. However, Verizon has now decided that those with leftover credits must use them or lose them. The deadline is April 15th. And finally, those who share their upgrade with someone else on the same account can do so only if the upgrade is for a device in the same equipment category. For example, you can't share a phone upgrade and use it on a tablet or Jetpack.

Is this the beginning of an eventual move away from subsidized devices by Verizon? If so, we don't expect Verizon to put its customers into subsidy withdrawal immediately without trying first to wean its customers off contracts first. By the way, the first customers to be impacted by the changes are those whose contract expires January 2014 or later.

Thanks, Anonymous Tipster!

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posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:48 12

1. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Sucks too be on Verizon now does it?

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:56 7

4. Owlet (Posts: 450; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

Nah, it doesn't. I've been buying full retail for awhile. Nothing changed.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:27 2

38. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

U must be very rich too afford a 500-600$ phone w/o contract.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 12:17 3

55. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

You dont need to be rich. Even someone that works minimum wage could (potentially) afford it, as long as they budget themselves properly and save up for said devices. Also device trade ins can reduce some of the cost.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 16:38 2

68. evarod48 (Posts: 154; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

who thumbed this down lol, it's a great point.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 23:44

83. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

Third world countries even pay over $1000 for an iphone 5. U dont have to be rich to afford that.
I paid $680 for the Nexus One on Googles website. I hope Verizon ends subsidy. I just hope this brings the cost of service down

posted on 14 Apr 2013, 00:08 2

85. DonLouie (Posts: 594; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)

Don't hold your breath....

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 23:01 6

5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

VZW had a one year upgrade program (aka one year contract). I got my Droid X on that program. Then they eliminated the one year contracts and I have alternated between paying full fare and the reduced fare. Overall it is probably close to the one year contract after factoring in the $ that is made from selling the one year old handset.

VZW still has the best LTE coverage of any of the 4 majors in the U.S. Got to pay to play.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 03:38 3

14. Owlet (Posts: 450; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

Why did you get all them thumbs down?

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 04:28 5

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

VZW h8ers taking out their frustration? Why would you get thumbs down for saying you have paid retail for awhile? (Dunno)

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 07:31 6

22. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

Thank you Dougie,

I'm sick of these technically challenged ill-informed feces for brain folks who either:

1. Want their phones to do everything but then say, 'I only wanna' pay Virgin Mobile prices'.
2. Take a FREE phone on a two-year contract then, b¡tch about how the service (not the phone) sucks - but, we really know it's their cheap free phone. But, hey, according to their own RATIONALE, 'I didn't pay anything for it'!? (That's the most ignorantly common ill-informed justification I always hear - just DUMB).
3. Have no basis for comparison and think that data connection dl speeds are supposed to be slow.

I have a friend on Sprint; she's been with Sprint since about 2000 with the same number. I was playing around with her EVO last week and told her to update Astro; we hit the update button and after about 5 minutes it still hadn't reached 1%. I told her that it shouldn't take that long so, we canceled the update. Then, to prove my point, I pulled out my Galaxy Note 2 and proceeded to check if I could take the exact same update version for Astro and I, in fact, could. So I executed the update on the two phones at exactly the same time; my VZW GN2 was finished and installed in about 25 seconds while her Sprint EVO moved at snale's pace and repeated the same download rate as the previous attempt; after another 5 minutes we canceled AGAIN (And, yes we were on Sprint's 4G).

I remember having faster dl speeds on my VZW DROID X!!!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 08:49 3

29. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)

Cool story, but we all know sprint sucks, and the EVO was one of the first "4G" phones on their wimax network

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 11:47 2

48. thisguyhere. (Posts: 3; Member since: 13 Apr 2013)

I did the same test. Downloaded Skype on my friends I phone 5 (sprint) and then sitting there staring at it I realized it was pretty dang slow, so I pulled out my RAZR M. Downloaded the same app in 5 seconds as his was still going.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 13:51 1

62. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

lol... Sprint is like The Energizer Bunny after a massive heart attack.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 11:54

51. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Sprint has had its share of challenges over the years. I was actually on Sprint for about 10 years when I was using BlackBerries. My last experience with Sprint was with the Evo 3D. WiMax on the S.F. peninsula was spotty at best. I could be seeing 4 Mb/s down on one corner of a block; at the opposite end of the block (~300 yards?), there would be no WiMax signal and down would be around 300 Kb/s. When I got the Droid X, I was reliably seeing 1.0 Mb/s down everywhere I went with the phone. That was the end of my relationship with Sprint.

I have never looked back. When I upgraded my X to the RAZR, VZWs LTE was absolutely flying - 18 Mb/s down was the norm and it could go as high as 22 or 23 Mb/s. Apple iP4/S owners were positively green with envy when we would be getting the same e-mail with an attachment. I would have read the attachment and replied while they were still waiting for the download to finish.

VZW has a real advantage (even today) with their LTE network. Expect them to monetize that advantage. They are in business to make $ for their shareholders, after all.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 14:08

64. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

OMG I've had a similar evolution in VZW phones. I almost went back to Sprint when the EVOOOO was released; I initiated service, bought the EVOOOO, traded in a couple of broken iPhones for credit (I wound up paying like $37 dollars for the EVOOOO after all my credits, discounts and rebate) and almost gave up Verizon. Whhhheeeeww, that would've been a mistake. Good thing I suspended my service from June through November. When I realized how backwards Sprint still was, I swapped out the EVOOOO with a Palm Centro (to release the EVO's IMEI), sold the EVO for $325 and reactivated my VZW service. Initially, I wound up with a DROID X in December 2010 but then, managed to upgrade to the RAZR in December 2011 without losing my Unlimited Data; it took just finding the right rep' who was willing (keyword "willing") to pull up the appropriate plan codes from the account history to push through the Unlimited Data feature even after it had been discontinued. And, now I'm the daddy of Supermachine called the Galaxy Note 2. But, thank god, no more Sprint!!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 14:11 5

65. jovy121 (Posts: 14; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)

hahaha, Now we have Sprint LTE service in San fran and I bet my bill is smaller with unlimited data and my LTE speeds are even higher in some parts of SF than Verizon. Sucks to be you

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 22:18

79. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Enjoying your Sprint LTE when you leave SF? Or, do you just don't use data when you are away from the LTE tether? If you haven't experienced no LTE coverage, you don't know what life is like without. Nothing like Stockholm Syndrome.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 07:04 4

18. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

Never sucks to be on Big Red. In addition to the best and most consistent 4G LTE network, they also have the bestest' devices and only American Customer Service Call Centers in English (American English, not that broken "scripted" English that you get from one of those OTHER three carriers' Customer dis-Service with call centers only in India, Malaysia, Philippines, Guam, etc!)

You're just jealous cuz'

'You can't afford it, you can't afford it; you b' on da' welfare, b' on da welfare...'

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 07:29

21. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

I left Verizon mobile broadband and their 4G LTE network. I was all set to use Virgin Mobile WiMax for $35 for 10GB a month. By accident, I decided to try ATT 4G with Liberate mifi.

ATT 4G LTE is faster than Verizon. VM was 4-6 Mbps while Verizon LTE was 8-10 Mbps while ATT was 10 to 14 Mbps. I tested all three networks for two weeks and ATT was consistently faster than Verizon. So after 4 years, it was adios Verizon.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 08:24

27. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

I'm gonna actually try AT&T for my newly acquired PAPI HP MINI, I've just ordered an Ericcson hs2340 (F5521gw) broadband miNi PCI-E card as, I need to have access to the internet whilst jAilbreaking (god i Hate that word) with Casual's One-Click......lol

It won't be LTE but, at least it will be HSPA+; I'll let you know what i Think.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 08:59 3

31. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

One way to explain that is that AT&T's LTE adoption rate is likely far lower than Verizon's, since Verizon has had LTE in far more places far longer than AT&T. I could be wrong, but as with any network, the more people using it, the slower the network will run. Once more people adopt AT&T's LTE devices, I'd be willing to bet you will see the speeds normalize to about the same with little variance.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 11:59

53. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

"Once more people adopt AT&T's LTE devices, I'd be willing to bet you will see the speeds normalize to about the same with little variance."

And, worst case, if subscriber growth continues and no investment is made in expanding capacity along with the subscriber growth, you will see a reduction in speeds. So, you might be seeing fast speeds now, but they may slow in the future. AT&T hasn't exactly been able to stay on the cutting edge of network performance. Ask their customers about dropped calls (even to this day).

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 20:59

77. scsa852k (Posts: 331; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)

Speed all depends on where you live. You can't say which carrier is better. Verizon LTE in my area hits like 1 Mbps down. It's a freakin' joke to call that speed LTE. GoSmart HSPA 3G is almost the same speed.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:26

37. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Who says im on welfare? Im not. Im talkn bout their consumers will be piss off now they have too wait for full 2yrs for a upgrade. Thats what suxs on being on Verizon not too mention their cap data plans.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 12:04

54. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

Well, see, that's what you get for not jumping on their Unlimited Data Plan for PDA Smartphone when they first offered it in 2005 (like I did). Now everybody wants whine nilly-willy. As far as upgrade, look at it this way, you still get a subsidy after 24 months (unlike Tiddie-Mobile). So, man up, and stop sounding like a Speaker of the Senate.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 14:07 4

63. jovy121 (Posts: 14; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)

WTF you talking about, Sprints Customer Service is in the USA. call this number and don't respond back until you do. 1800-777-4681. I have Sprint LTE in my town, they've launched it less than 1 year and it's in over 100 cities. I bet my bill is lower than yours on my LTE network

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 14:21

66. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

WTF u' talkin' 'bout Willis??

I pay $23.99 for Unlimited Data Feature + $29.74 for Voice Plan (300 minutes is all I want cuz' I'm not in the mood to talk to anyone) + $5.99 (or is it $6.99) for Asurion.

So let's see:
$23.99 +
$29.74 +
$ 5.99 +
Taxes. =
$70.×× or $71.××

You pay how much on Sprint for everything?
My EVO bill back in 2010 used to be $103.×× every month. Oh yeah, you'z a smart someone....

posted on 14 Apr 2013, 20:45

87. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1288; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)

300 minutes vs my unlimited minutes on Sprint because you can't afford it you be on the welfare with limited talking and hardly chatting cuz you can't afford it you be on the welfare with your lame 300 minutes.

Here in da Bronx I get op to 20 megabytes down loads on Sprint, and almost every where I need to go in the NYC New Jersey Metro areas now.

LOL see how silly this can be! Choose who or what makes you happy carrier wise. I went from Massachusetts to Florida on Sprint with out dropping a cal on I95

How silly does the chant i made sound, and some of these threads are just as silly!

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:52 15

2. cheeseycheeser (Posts: 413; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)

Verizon, I really really hate you.

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