Verizon asks the President to veto the upcoming ITC sales ban of Apple iPhone 4

Verizon asks the President to veto the upcoming ITC sales ban of Apple iPhone 4
An ITC ordered sales ban against certain older Apple devices is supposed to take effect starting August 5th. Out of the models affected by the order, only the Apple iPhone 4 and the Apple iPad 2 remain on retailer's shelves. Because Apple uses the iPhone 4 as a low cost version of its smartphone (similar to how the Apple iPhone Lite will be positioned), a sales ban on the phone will have ramifications on Cupertino.

The sales ban comes after the the ITC ruled against Apple in a patent infringement suit. Right now, the sales ban is on hold pending a 60 day presidential review that expires on August 4th. Speaking of President Obama, Verizon's general counsel, Randal S. Milch, had an editorial published in the Wall Street Journal earlier this week, asking for the president to intervene in this case. The version of the Apple iPhone 4 involved in the sales ban is the AT&T flavored model, so Big Red doesn't have an interest in this case at all, but Milch's editorial says that Verizon is concerned about the precedent that a sales ban would set.

Milch wants President Obama to veto the ITC decision, a move that no president has taken since 1987. He also pointed out three situations where the president needs to step in. One is when the patent holder isn't using the patented technology. Another would be when the patent holder has already agreed to license a patent on FRAND terms. The third situation is when the infringing part isn't important to the overall product and isn't what drives consumer demand for it. You can read the entire editorial at the sourcelink.

Apple has appealed the order with the U.S. Court of Appeals, which is hearing arguments from both sides on August 9th.


source: WSJ via AppleInsider   

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67 Comments

63. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Sales bans on infringing products have already taken place. A precedent is already set. It's a moot point. Either Verizon isn't smart enough to figure that out, or there's an ulterior motive.

57. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

1st of all VERIZON stop whining like a lil baby. 2nd of all APPLE iPH4 deserve a BAN after what they did too the HTC ONE X and ban everyone's favorite GALAXY NEXUS. IPHONE/Ipad deserve a ban. the President have enough already too deal with in the gov't. and Apple started this hole LAW SUIT B.S. now it's their TURN TOO TASTE the BAN

61. deadstroke

Posts: 113; Member since: Jan 22, 2013

ur correct my friend ^_^

51. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I don't recall Verizon being very concerned with precedents when Apple got HTC phones banned, or even when Apple tried to get them banned again even after HTC had implemented a workaround.

50. darkvadervip

Posts: 366; Member since: Dec 08, 2010

So when are they going to ban Samsung for using touch wiz which is stolen from htc sense

49. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

Apple started this whole thing, so as I see it... turnabout is fair play. Let the sales ban begin.

47. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

Apples be lawsuit against Samsung should have been vetod. They need to let this through or otherwise Samsung won't rest until they have some form of payback. This would only help diffuse the situation.

48. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

sorry did not properly read comment. I agree with you.

34. bittertruth247

Posts: 36; Member since: May 03, 2013

Anyone who sells cellphones like me knows the reason Verizon is trying to intervene is because Apple charges carriers full price for their phones unlike other companies that cut deals so any ban on Apple products would hit Verizon in their wallets so that's what this is all about! Apple should have left Samsung and others alone, now it's payback time and I'm so glad for them to get a taste of their own medicine!

42. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

@bittertruth247 The trial is about the GSM Iphone 4 and Ipad 2. Verizons Iphone 4 is CDMA version and is not even included in the import ban because it does not infringe on the Samsung patent that got the ITC to put an import ban on the GSM version. So what stake does VZW have in all of this? Apple cant make VZW and Sprint pay more because the GSM verson (ATT and T-mobile among many others that use the GSM standard in thier cell networks) got banned from import.

45. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

And to be honest carriers that have the Iphone sign a contract with Apple for how many I phones Apple sells them. The carriers are on the hook to pay for the contracted amount that they agree to sell on thier network. I doubt if Appe were unable to secure the phones for the carriers to sell that the carriers would just blindly pay Apple for not holding up thier end of the contract.

32. rightcue805

Posts: 55; Member since: Jul 08, 2013

Milch wants President Obama to veto the ITC decision, a move that no president has taken since 1987..... does this not tell you anything milch? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!

31. wildcard

Posts: 65; Member since: Jan 15, 2013

why is verizon and not AT&T hmmm something stinks here well if their veto this phone is no cases about samsung either ....lol

14. deadstroke

Posts: 113; Member since: Jan 22, 2013

yea pay by tim cook ....lol ^-^

9. PermanentHiatus

Posts: 267; Member since: Jun 22, 2012

Obama is an Apple fanboy. So it's highly possible that it will get vetoed.

12. Blazers

Posts: 796; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

He uses a Blackberry, not an iPhone.

15. rallyguy

Posts: 620; Member since: Mar 13, 2012

He gave the Queen of England an Ipod. What an insult.

17. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Really? And I guess that Berry told you that when you all were playing B-Ball at the White House the other day. I bet he even showed you his BB A-10 didnt he?

20. PermanentHiatus

Posts: 267; Member since: Jun 22, 2012

@Blazers Maybe not an iPhone, but he uses an iPad and Macbook. And drives a Chevy Volt. Definitely a hippie. http://www.zdnet.com/presidential-gadgets-what-technology-does-obama-use_p2-7000008511/#photo

26. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

"He appears to be a platform 'agnostic', like many by not endorsing or using a single platform. Instead, he uses what works best for the occasion." Doesn't sound like a hippie to me...also driving...when do you think was the last time he drove anywhere?

65. willard12 unregistered

I don't think he drives a volt as it came out in 2010 and he's had limo drivers since 2009. But hey...if it fits your narrative then, cool.

23. Googler

Posts: 813; Member since: Jun 10, 2013

He invited Tim Cook to the State of the Union address and called out Apple as a company bringing jobs back to the US. A ban is NOT going to happen.

36. darkkjedii

Posts: 31816; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I don't think so either googler

44. PAPINYC

Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

I thought that dinner was in honour and in support of gay marriage??

24. PAPINYC

Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

Wrong, he gave up his Blackberry last year. He even got his kids iPhones; Sasha and Malika were playing with their iPhones at his 2nd iNauguration. Personally, I think ANY President who uses an iPhone should be iMpeached on that criteria alone; "We The People" stand for Freedom and Democracy, not DiCtAtorship!!

27. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

Troll comment of the day

37. darkkjedii

Posts: 31816; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Big time!!! He needs to get ____!

43. PAPINYC

Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

No I don't, your fiAnceé took care of me last night (but, I had to put a bag on her head) ____!

55. darkkjedii

Posts: 31816; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

No she didn't. She's in Vegas where she belongs lol. Dude what's with the jealousy towards my fiancé, myself and our marriage? This is an everyday thing with you, jealousy is a weak trait dude. Get yourself a girl bro...seriously. Everyday you attack with the same lines, now your buddies don't even respond to your wack insults with lol. C'mon pap you should be happy for me pal. Don't hate...imitate. Here I'll +1 you, since that's what you do this for.

66. androidfanboy

Posts: 162; Member since: Jun 24, 2013

You need to get a life

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