Snapdragon 808 chosen for the LG G4 before the 810 issues, claims Qualcomm
posted by Daniel P. / Apr 28, 2015, 12:24 PM
Samsung might have been wise to go with its own 14nm Exynos for the Galaxy S6 not only for business reasons - using its own superior SoC - but also because of reports that the first batches of Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810 could not keep their cool the way the TSMC foundry was producing them. The launch of the Galaxy S6 with Samsung's own application processor has reportedly given Qualcomm food for thought about cutting the patent royalties it demands from phone makers, and Samsung in particular, as it doesn't want to nix the relationship it has with the world's largest cell phone maker.
G Flex 2 - and that's where the reports of the 810's aggressive thermal throttling actually started. Now, with the announcement of the G4, which sports a chipset that sits a tad below 810 in Qualcomm's portfolio, the chip maker rushed to an explanation.When it comes to LG, though, it was first out of the gate with Qualcomm's first Snapdragon 810 batch inside - with the
The Snapdragon 808 chipset, it seems, was chosen for the G4 long before the 810 production issues took centerstage, claims Qualcomm. As per Tim McDonough, Qualcomm's head of marketing: "The decisions on which chipsets to put on which handsets come from over a year ago," so LG hasn't had second thoughts about Snapdragon 810, it seems. There you have it - the reason why the LG G4 doesn't have DDR4 RAM support and two more cores, like the G Flex 2, which LG obviously wanted to keep as its flagship in the silicon department for now.
- Display 5.5" 1440 x 2560 pixels
- Camera 16 MP / 8 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 808, Hexa-core, 1800 MHz
- Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
- Battery 3000 mAh(18.5h talk time)
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So flex 2 has sd810 and ddr4, yet their flagship uses sd808 and ddr3. Where's the logic?
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:26 PM 31
according to anadtech article I read a while back this 2-4 big little hexacore config of the SD808 is the most ideal way of incorporating ARMs big.little configuration. it supposedly will yield best battery life results and good throttle free thermals. the 4-4 octacore is not as good for battery life. and it also leads to bad thermal temp of the SD 810 personally I think people have lost context when it comes to phone processors , 1)are we rendering videos on a phone ? no 2) are we video editing on a phone ,again not much , phones should be more about batterylife rather than unnecessary performance benchmarks. they aren't desktops. Antutu and quadrant are the 2 biggest evils affecting people's brains , lets get real no one is really using a octacore fully on their phone. it's just for showing off. processor rant end
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:38 PM 9
What about GPU. The 418 is almost half as fast as the 430. What about LPDDR4 RAM, UFS storage and 25.6 GB/s bandwidth. 808 doesn't support those things. Ever replaced an HDD with an SSD. it becomes super fast. These things may seem little, but reduce the number of bottlenecks and hence prevent the system from jank. The 2 a57 cores are the least of my worries.
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:49 PM 17
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But we don't need a Adreno 430, when Nvidia lunched the Tegra K1 with that monstruous GPU my first thought was how we use all that, but the suport for APIs was complete and that's what make me happy about the new GPU. The same happens here with the 430, but it has a little brother that do all the same stuf with less power comsuption. The 330 was more then enough for us and the 418 20% more powerful than it. LPDDR3 on 808 can handle things pretty well. eMMC 5.0 is supported as well as on the 810. Lucky for us, we don't have HDD on smartphones so that afirmative is pointless.
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 1:01 PM 1
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Specs aren't everything though, the iPhone has only 2 cores and it's as smooth as the quad or octa core chip phones. Optimization is the key and if LG offered input into the creation of the 808, it's possible that the chip has been fully optimized to work with the G4 software.
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 3:22 PM 1
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Specs are important The iPhone has amazing specs Your just reading it wrong (as Apple would say) A8 -6 micro-ops wide (while the A57 is 3) -2 billion transistors (more than many desktop CPUs) But yea optimization is also important
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 4:57 PM 0
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Anything can run ios well. Even the iPhone 5 and 5c I'd pretty much just as smooth as the iPhone 6. That isn't saying much though. Apple should never be used as a reference. They charge you $800 for software they created 10 years ago and they achieve their performance by removing features. So more money for less features and you saps lap it up?! How is that a good thing? If I am paying $800 for a phone, I want the technology even if I'll never use it. Don't get me wrong. Paying for software is fine. Windows 1 to 10.1 are pretty different and I have no problem upgrading. Ios 1-6 were exactly the same and ios 7 - 13 most likely will be too. I am not paying for old software and you Apple tools shouldn't either even though it works.
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 7:51 PM 1
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True, we are far beyond what we need in terms of processing power. Take a look at G3, it uses the Snap 801 with the same resolution on screen with the same old API suport for graphics, now have in the G4 the Snap 808 that is 64-bit and has a 20% more powerful GPU with new and more efficient arctecture pushing the same 2k display and APIs. What we do need is optimization in every level, I'm seeing Lumia x20 series and BB Z10 pushing a hole OS with no glitches at all. Sure they could use some new GPU and CPU to improve some features but they prove my point here.
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:53 PM 1
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Anandtech can say a lot of sh!t, doesn't mean it's right. Read ARM's literature before everything else, then comment on big.little. Quoted below: ".... to reduce software complexity in the big.LITTLE task migration use model it is recommended that the same number of cores be implemented in the Cortex-A15 cluster and Cortex-A7 cluster" Forget about A15/A7, the point is about number of cores. Clearly says to reduce software complexity, they recommend to have same number of cores in each cluster. Source:http://www.arm.com/files/downl
CCI-400 interconnect is used for both A7/A15 and A53/A57 clusters.
I can assure you that ARM knows more about their own processors than guys at Anandtech. f
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 1:17 PM 3
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Anandtech has only spoke about SD808 in comparison with 810 not overall. Keep your lame comment with yourself & when you point towards some experts, make sure to paste a link of the same or else you will be making a fool of yourself. Lolz :D
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 2:44 PM 0
i think the 808 was made specifically for the g4. seen it on amy other phones?
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:53 PM 1
I don't think LG likes it when Qualcomm makes processors for specific devices. http://www.phonearena.com/news
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 7:59 PM 0
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Wise choice LG
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:29 PM 1
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STUPID CHOICE IF YOU ASK ME SONY TROLL. That profile pic is so annoying
posted on Apr 28, 2015, 12:34 PM 12
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