Should Nokia switch to Android?

Profitable with Windows Phone

Hooray, Nokia is profitable again! After a long and painful transitional period, the ex-largest cell phone manufacturer has finally swung back to profitability during the beloved holiday season (Q4). Understandably, the profit isn't that big - it's $585 million, but at least it's a start.

Nokia managed to achieve this result thanks to a solid line-up of devices running the Windows Phone 8 operating system, including the Lumia 820 and the flagship Lumia 920. The Lumia 920 in particular is an especially fancy device, because it features a number of interesting new technologies that managed to spark the interest of consumers. Probably the most notable innovation inside the Lumia 920 is its 8MP PureView camera, which has made it possible for Nokia engineers to avoid designing a fat, bulky device like the 808 PureView, while at the same time allowing consumers to enjoy wonderful photo-taking capabilities.

And now we reach the interesting part. All Lumia phones run Windows Phone. Microsoft's mobile operating system is having a very tough time getting off the ground, and some are even questioning its ability to achieve its first big goal - to become the third-largest mobile OS in the world, in terms of market share. If you ask us, Windows Phone 8 does a lot of things right, but it just lacks the wow-factor. The Live Tiles, although not really bad, aren't something incredible, and actually look like downgraded widgets. As a matter of fact, they are not only much simpler, but often lack the functionality found with some of Android's widgets, for example. You can't turn on and off various settings with a Live Tile, you cannot read the latest news and you can't get a nice preview of the new content that's just made its way into the application store.

One of the best ways to hide a weakness is to present it as a great strength

Just see what Microsoft is doing: the Windows Phone platform is very weak when it comes to personalization options. You can't even assign a wallpaper! So, what Microsoft attempts to do is to convince us just how greatly personalizable WP is. "It's not a phone for all of us, but a phone for each of us!" says Microsoft's marketing message. "This is Jessica's Windows Phone; and this here is Steve's Windows Phone." If you've watched a WP presentation, you'd know that Microsoft desperately tries to convince us that WP doesn't have the slightest problem in terms of personalization... in fact, it's great for personalization! Of course, that is all bollocks - customizing the arrangement of the Live Tiles might be OK as far as making your important people more visible, but when it comes to reflecting your personal lifestyle, or being flexible, or tweaking the visuals to make them more pleasing for you, the Live Tile paradigm is helpless.

Many have suggested that Nokia should have chosen Android as its main smartphone platform since day one. Many of those people are more or less right to think so, because Windows Phone is still considered a gamble. Well, if Microsoft continues to pour money it may eventually grab a significant share, but at the current time, it's normal to see Android as the more sustainable model. Today's news of Nokia earning actual money, however, may be seen as a sign that Windows Phone is slowly starting to come into its own.

With all that in mind, today we'd like to ask you: Should Nokia switch to Android? Should it switch to Android now that there's finally a glimmer of hope? Now that we finally have a proof that Stephen Elop's strategy may work? Let's see what you think about this, considering the news that Nokia has finally managed to turn a profit.

Should Nokia switch to Android?

Absolutely, Android will always be better than Windows Phone.
Nope, things have just started to get better. Why make a switch now?
I don't know, maybe they should just license Open WebOS...



1. SGSatlantis

Posts: 227; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

Yes please.

25. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

I still stand for the answer No! I agree Android is good and i agree that it has more customizeable options but i don't see Nokia becoming successful in the Android race. Even if it does, it will take about a decade... I'm telling you, Nokia won't be able to compete with what Samsung and others has to offer for Androids. Nokia might produce a decent looking phone, but performance wise, it won't be the same. Better to improve the ecosystem and see what can be done that needs innovation. If i see success in Nokia, i see it with WP.

82. RiseAgainst94

Posts: 281; Member since: Mar 03, 2012

How the hell does this comment have so many likes? The last thing I would do is doubt Nokias ability to make a high performing phone, in many ways the Lumia 920 is a better performer than any Samsung (low light, screen technology, durability). Edit: I should give credit to Samsung for what they've done and my example of screen technology is specifically referring to the clearblack and super sensitive touch enhancements.

103. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

You misunderstood...I've always been an avid supporter of Nokia. Lets take an assumption, let the 920 remain as it is, both in an out, except...put Android in it...whichever version you please. Will the performance still read the same for you? The camera, and screen aside. I'm not saying Nokia's hardware is below par, it certainly is above par...the innovating rate they have is outstanding, but bring Android, and it's all about beefed up hardware or it will lag. Honestly, i prefer an OS that can do everything without the hardware, as in cores, hitting the sky.

111. RiseAgainst94

Posts: 281; Member since: Mar 03, 2012

We'll assume that I choose Jelly Bean, of course. No, performance would not be as fast and you would, with the 1GB ram and dual core, run in to some stability issues. However, with the huge difference in amounts of apps and general abilities and convenices of core OS the user would be given a better overall experience. Now, let's say Nokia releases a quad core 2GB ram device. Now, we have an even more stable OS with all the capabilities of Android. I agree there is an obvious trade off here and it comes down to preference, but after having owned a Lumia 900 I would rather take a phone that could do everything ai wanted to on it and suck up the few nagging performance issues that I'm sure Nokia would address anyway.

217. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Not surprised that you chose Jelly Bean...was hoping for that, lol. I'll be skeptical on Nokia releasing a phone with a quad-cored processor... Like i said, i might not be wrong to say that Nokia believes in adopting 'more for less', on the basis of the frequency of the cores used in phones dating back to it's first symbian smartphone till the last, until WP. They don't use more than what they need, of course, having extra blocks is always welcome...and that can be achieved by the dual-cores when running WP8. And on a different note, it is also about the exclusiveness of the phone, go Android and Nokia will lose the marketing may not agree, but you may get, like i said, something better for something less.

282. sumitgarang

Posts: 1; Member since: Jan 31, 2013

dude if you were an avid supporter of Nokia then you wouldn't have talked about the assumption... How far i know Nokia is not dumb to shake hands with his enemy ( because Andriod is only the cause for the fall of Sybian) it just a start.. Windows lacks apps, just apps else it would be the no.1 OS in the present.. and among windows phones there is no doubt that Nokia is the leader ( exclusive apps from Nokia).. Its just matter of time and i believe that windows market place will have a huge number of app..

285. Suts_97

Posts: 130; Member since: May 05, 2012

If Nokia made an Android phone, they would have put in "beefed up hardware" in their phones, not a big deal for them...They can't put those quad core processors and all in their WP phones because WP doesn't support it and doesn't need it either, so how on earth can you even imagine of putting in Android on 920, that doesn't make sense bro, because 920 was meant for WP and not Android...of course Android will lag on it because that's Android's nature...You said "Nokia won't be able to compete with what Samsung and others has to offer for Androids" ..That is not true...As I said, if Nokia was in the Android camp, it would have been the King and simply destroyed Samsung because obviously Nokia has the capabilities of making a better phone with a Quad core processor and a high-performing gpu...Hey c'mon, Samsung was nothing before the Galaxy S!

106. OptimusOne

Posts: 694; Member since: May 22, 2012

why not both?

123. someones4

Posts: 628; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Yea.. they should have both. Some of us still likes Android and Nokia should build some.

140. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

This is what I'm saying. Do both...just to see what happens. I didnt vote...


Posts: 28; Member since: Jan 24, 2013

Cause Nokia the slave has signed a contract with MS for 2 years and will be funding no matter how low it goes, cash and no ex pence will be spared! Flop and the boards needs to be fired right now! How weird are there shareholders and fans not giving a toss if Nokia dies like BB.

244. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

General Troll!!! You're on a limited account...don't you know what caused it? Stop using words and sentences that projects you as a hypocrite!! You are ruining your face...

114. UrbanPhantom

Posts: 949; Member since: Oct 30, 2012

Nokia is already starting to make a profit with WP8 now, and that will only increase during the during year. There is no reason to switch to Android...

115. oister85 unregistered

nokia is not new in the phone industry.

120. wendygarett unregistered

Nokia has faced five years consecutive of loss, and Windows phone alone has finally brings Nokia to profit stage... There will be no turning back but to focus Windows phone... I can see the reason why Nokia refuses android is because of the epic spec has offered in Asia, and juststern can't compete with... And even Dell cancelled all the android project and focus windows... Why? Because Dell says the profit margin on android is very low!!! I believe the same story on Nokia... Just tell me guys... How many western oem survived in android... Amazon? The one who offers zero profits margin kindle? Or is it Motorola? Who has a sugar daddy named Google? Can Nokia makes zero profits during losses stage? Do Nokia has a sugar daddy to support android? Nokia just can't compete all the Asian oem...  Just be honest fandroid, do you really wanna buy Nokia android if it has same spec as lumia 920? Thumb up if you want to buy, and thumbs down if you just want Nokia make android device and you dont wanna buy thanks to your selfishness...

124. RiseAgainst94

Posts: 281; Member since: Mar 03, 2012

As somebody who is defending the side that Nokia should make phones running on Android I'd be more than willing to answer @wendygarett's question (though by no means am I a 'fandroid' shown by my early adoption of WP) as much as I wish it was better worded or more comprehendable. The short answer is yes I would buy in a heartbeat, for me it combines the best available hardware with the best available software. However, for calling anyone selfish I will definitely not thumbs up.

127. wendygarett unregistered

Because I can see a lot of fanboy being selfish without concern of companies background... and seriously, webOS? Are you kidding me pa?

129. RiseAgainst94

Posts: 281; Member since: Mar 03, 2012

I am all for Nokia's revival and future success, I think they are a great company with "better" morals than the top dogs right now, but we'll leave that for another time.

131. wendygarett unregistered

Unfortunately most consumers are blindly accept the device by comparing just in terms of numbers, are you sure you wanna buy these dual core device while others enjoying cheaper quad-core device? I'm sorry to say that you alone won't make Nokia survive...

133. RiseAgainst94

Posts: 281; Member since: Mar 03, 2012

What you're saying remind me a lot of the "megapixel race" that camera companies find themselves in. The average consumer will buy the camera with the high number of megapixels, when megapixels alone count for such a small portion of what goes in to image quality.

287. Raymond_htc

Posts: 430; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

My answer is YES! Nokia has been well known for its good build quality for phones, as well as well built hardware. Also they had gain lots of trust with users world wide. If Nokia make androids, they would get lots of profit. Samsung is the best choice for android phones now, but some still doubt their build quality. so if Nokia make android phones, together with good build quality and good specs, i'm sure they would earn profit. Besides, Nokia could come out with their Custom android Ui too! A Ui that looks like symbian belle..... :)

30. Johnnokia

Posts: 1158; Member since: May 27, 2012

What is the problem if they have both ( Windows Phone and Android) Nokia, please just do it and adopt android. You will see that within 6 months No hype would be about Galaxy, Nexus, Xperia and Note ...... AT ALL JUST DO IT, ALL OF US LOVE NOKIA

33. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Nokia don't sell yourself to a terrible OS like Android. Im a very disgruntled Android user. Im tired of Force Close Force Close Force Close >:-/ ... ugh!! My wifes Lumia running WP8 is so fast, sleak and doesn't crash! I've pulled my Battery on my Motorola Photon probably 10 times in two days. Im ready to use my phone for baseball practice...

41. Johnnokia

Posts: 1158; Member since: May 27, 2012

Dear, What is the problem if they adopt both. If one OS would not sell good, the other will do so. Nokia had Symbian and Mego. Let's them have Android aswell . If your opinion is correct, Many other people still think that Android is the best OS and would buy Nokia Android for sure, and this will increase Nokia profit. Nexus 4 which is a crappy LG and it is all the time sold out. Imagine what will happen if the next Nexus would be Nokia Pureview ?? I can see fighting on Google Play to buy it. How many Million peice would sell ??

62. Penny

Posts: 1871; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Therein lies the problem. If Nokia offers both, under current circumstances, they would much more likely profit from Android than Windows Phone. They would then be forced -- via board members and shareholders -- to pursue Android over Windows Phone to a lopsided degree. For Nokia, that would mean good business, at least in the near term. For consumers, that would significantly undermine Windows Phone's ability to penetrate the market, which would mean that it may eventually disappear and leave one less option on the market. Also, with so many manufacturer's vying for a share of the Android pie, it may well be a worthwhile gamble for Nokia to bet on WP exclusively. It definitely hurts them in the short term, but the potential upside is that they create an identity as THE manufacturer to get if you are going WP. Now that they are well on their way in establishing that identity, the remainder of the gamble is to stay all in with WP until it (potentially) blows up. If WP does blow up, Nokia would be huge beneficiaries of that from this strategy.

228. Mittal

Posts: 494; Member since: Dec 14, 2011

If Nokia is the go to company for WP, then the rest WP vendors should close shop, no ? An OS does not need support from any one Manufacturer for its success. If its good enough, manufacturers will show interest. Someone will be there to fill in the void by Nokia. That is in case Nokia totally ditches WP. It should go for both the platforms.


Posts: 28; Member since: Jan 24, 2013

Lier lier you're bums on fire....!

152. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

are you 5?


Posts: 28; Member since: Jan 24, 2013

O says the old retired police, go look after the streets. The guy whose aged 20+ acts like a old age pensioner, Why do people dislike and hate you, no one likes you on PhoneArena, you had a go with mescal, the TROLL, and so many others, Wtf is wrong with you, go see a mantle doctor, take you're moderator sh!t els were,

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