Samsung's second appeal on Apple's slide-to-unlock patent case denied, $120 million verdict upheld

Samsung's second appeal on Apple's slide-to-unlock patent case denied, $120 million verdict upheld
Back in May 2014, an epic patent infringement legal battle between Apple and Samsung resulted in $119.6 million verdict for Samsung to pay on violating three Apple patents. This was down from the original $2.2 billion in damages sought, and concerned the OG iPhone's slide-to-unlock, quick links and auto-correct features. 

Samsung then filed an appeal, succeeding in overturning the verdict, but Apple countered with a review which reconfirmed it last month. The lawyers of the Korean conglomerate went to the US Court of Appeals for a whole court hearing, but now the judges there have overturned this second appeal. 

The only chance that Samsung stands of not paying in this situation, is if it goes all the way up to the Supreme Court, and it probably will, as the first patent case that involved Apple and Samsung has also reached Supreme Court level, and a verdict is expected in the spring. For what it's worth, Samsung's slide-to-unlock and auto-correct usage may ultimately cost it $120 million, which is way down from the initial billions sought, but still a sizeable chunk.

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75 Comments

1. AlikMalix unregistered

They should try one more time, just to make sure...

4. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

There's nothing to make sure of... Most of those patents were already invalidated. Heck, the only worthy patent which Apple is sueing for, is the auto-correct patent, and that's still debatable. "Slide-to-unlock" and "rectangle with rounded corners" the dumbest patents I've ever heard.

46. tedkord

Posts: 17133; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

They absolutely should, just as Apple would (and has many times).

3. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Wow, is the slide-to-unlock patent worth $120 million or even half or a third of it? Slide-to-unlock is just a finger gesture on the screen, from and to any direction... FFS!

6. AlikMalix unregistered

Someone had to figure out a simple and quick way to initialize the device to allow for input from a locked state. The gesture had to be familiar, and quick! Before that we preferred clamshell devices or had to "hold certain button to allow input" (the future of phones will not have buttons but an interactive screen). Apple figured that slide to unlock was the most practical for touch based screens - no samsung! If apple infringed on the idea - samsung would sue... Samsung, just be yourself!

37. tedkord

Posts: 17133; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

And someone did - Neonode.

24. patrioticwarrior

Posts: 134; Member since: Nov 09, 2016

14. wando77

Posts: 1166; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

I guess using a slide down notification panel with quick toggles for WiFi etc is OK to copy. So is the idea of a PHONE with Internet, music player, camera and sat navigation (which Nokia had first). But it's OK as long as it's apple doing it.

19. AlikMalix unregistered

is long as it wasn't patented or protected... if it was patented then it should either be licences or royalties paid... anything else is infringement and doen't matter who broke the law - it must be dealt with in court...

21. patrioticwarrior

Posts: 134; Member since: Nov 09, 2016

don't forget nokia symbian s60 had more features and customization than ios 10.

16. tech_mate

Posts: 23; Member since: Nov 30, 2016

So apple say they haven't copied anything from anyone?

18. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3092; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

Apple should sue for ringtones, batteries, glass, speakers, etc.

50. darkkjedii

Posts: 30833; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Then the makers of the Prada should sue the pants off Apple over the iPhone. Etc that.

34. sonisoe

Posts: 440; Member since: May 06, 2009

any update on how much apple has to pay up for breaking other patents ? i know there are cases patent companies or other oems slaping back at apple's face... also motorola or other companies should also sue apple for implementing a fingerprint scanner on a smartphone and laptops. these companies had done it waay waaaaaaay before...

35. DeusExCellula

Posts: 1390; Member since: Oct 05, 2014

Why do we call it green-thumbing and not Thumbs-up?

43. sissy246

Posts: 7002; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Because the color of the numbers is green.

48. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

But edge amoled screens are ok......My god the hippocracy.....

49. darkkjedii

Posts: 30833; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Gotta pay to play. Samsung was most definitely copying some Apple features back in the day, but has since moved quite a bit ahead and no longer needs to do it. Gotta own it for what was done back then though Sammy.

52. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3092; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

As long as Apple exists, Samsung will copy. Samsung's existence is dependent on Apple.

54. Tipus

Posts: 798; Member since: Sep 30, 2016

Yes, that's true exactly like 100-85=25

58. tedkord

Posts: 17133; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

100-85= his IQ

56. tedkord

Posts: 17133; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

The irony is Apple copies Samsung much more these days.

59. darkkjedii

Posts: 30833; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Who makes several key components of Apples iPhones and iPads? Silly troll, Samsung has moved so far ahead of Apple, it's not even funny. Troll away, but I'm keeping it real.

61. sissy246

Posts: 7002; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

And the other way around

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