Samsung's Nexus Prime tipped again today, this time a PowerVR GPU gets in the mix

Samsung's Nexus Prime tipped again today, this time a PowerVR GPU gets in the mix
The conflicting leaks about the upcoming Nexus Prime handset made by Samsung are starting to look borderline hype-generating deliberate. After we got a rumor earlier today about a 5MP camera and TI OMAP system chip, now we get a different story from the guys that were sent an actual picture of the device showing the HD screen resolution, that was posted on the same day that Apple was to announce the new iPhone 4S - by accident, we know.

Our hearts stay with this latest leak, though, allegedly coming from a guy inside Google, and not only because the first source broke a nutty story the other day about Sprint getting an iPhone 5 exclusively. It's rather since the latest rumor brings back to the Nexus Prime the beloved dual-core 1.5GHz processor (vs 1.2GHz in the earlier claim today), the 8MP camera with improved sensor (vs 5MP), 2050mAh battery (vs 1750mAh), and on top of that injects a new spec piece - the guy had tipped it will have an Imagination Technologies GPU.

Just a refresher - Imagination Technologies' PowerVR family of mobile graphics subsystems are the best ones on the market, and powered last year's finest - the Samsung Galaxy S and the iPhone 4, then Samsung split ways and went with ARM's default Mali-400 GPU for Exynos, while Apple went ahead and put the new PowerVR SGX543 MP2 GPU in the A5 chip of the iPhone 4S and the iPad 2. If the Nexus Prime indeed has such GPU back in a Samsung handset, then the only thing left to worry us is that these specs are too good to be true.

Moreover, the latest rumor pegs the Samsung-made beast to have an LTE radio again, but also sport that globetrotting GSM/CDMA chip that the iPhone 4S boasts. Now our head is spinning here. The thing is that, as far as we know, while a second generation 1.5GHz Samsung Exynos 4212 chip, and a combined slim and low-power LTE/GSM/CDMA baseband radios like Qualcomm's MDM8615 do exist, and are sampling with customers, they are supposed to go into handsets next year, not in something we'll see next week. 

Moreover, TI OMAP4460 has a PowerVR SGX540 GPU inside, and clocks in at 1.5GHz dual-core officially, which makes it a prime candidate for the latest leak, which, however, says "Samsung's own chipset". So, unless Samsung has quickly sampled Exynos 4212 for itself and it is with PowerVR graphics (unlikely, as it probably has Mali-T604), we'd have to call bonkers on the Exynos/PowerVR alleged combo, which leaves us TI again. 

Actually TI says "up to 1.5GHz" for the OMAP4460, so it might be clocked at 1.2GHz in one case (with the smaller battery), and at its 1.5GHz maximum in another, which takes care of the PowerVR GPU tidbit and the LTE part, since a TI chip has already been paired with an LTE modem in the Motorola DROID Bionic, for instance. 
What could split the Gordian knot here is if there are actually two versions with different clock frequencies, baseband radios and cameras in the same shell and with the same 4.6" HD Super AMOLED display - all the while one of them could be exclusive for Verizon, as rumored. And that chassis seems to be the kicker, with thin metal frame, curved HD screen and buttonless front - give us that, and we won't really be worried what combination (s) of dual-core SoC and baseband radio Samsung has used, the chips are all more than fast enough for any app thrown at them so far.

via GSMArena 

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  • Display 4.7 inches
    1280 x 720 pixels
  • Camera 5 MP (Single camera)
    1.3 MP front
  • Hardware TI OMAP4460, 1GB RAM
  • Storage 32GB,
  • Battery 1750 mAh
  • OS Android 4.3



85. snigglyanswer unregistered

Comment #44.. Sniggly,,,what are you on two carriers. ATT and are talking X, which is only on VW and Atrix which is ATT... you need two phones......?

83. masterchina

Posts: 55; Member since: Sep 27, 2011

Dam! Rumors, rumors! If everything is true I might have to jump ship from my sensation.I love htc but man sammie's looking good right about now.

77. bossmt_2

Posts: 459; Member since: Oct 13, 2009

Sploosh Also no way this costs more than 300 bucks. Yeah the Bionic costs 300 now, but not that long ago so did the Charge, and Thunderbolt, etc. Google will not allow this to be priced over 300, won't happen, too much of a deal breaker.

74. maxican16

Posts: 364; Member since: Sep 29, 2011

"Our hearts stay with this latest leak, though........ AND NOT ONLY BECAUSE THE FIRST SOURCE BROKE A NUTTY STORY THE OTHER DAY ABOUT SPRINT GETTING AN I*HONE 5 EXCLUSIVELY." Baa-hahahaha!! That was a shot if I ever saw one!! BGR lost all credibility with that nonsense. =]

57. Synack

Posts: 688; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

One last thing guys. For those of you that aren't too happy with Samsung updates. THE NEXUS PRIME updates will be completely controlled by Google. Neither Samsung nor Verizon or any carrier will have hardly anything to do with the updates. Just like in the past, Nexus phone updates are done by Google.

58. warlockz unregistered

Great point and one of the reasons I didn't leave vwz yet to grab the sg2 yea its a great phone but samsung takes far to long to update their phones. We will see next week if the prime will come to other carriers other than vwz..

68. belovedson

Posts: 1061; Member since: Nov 30, 2010

im not sure why people keep talking about updates regarding android phones. if you want to run a stock setup go nexus or ios. stock options always suck compared to a modified version most of the time. the devs do a better job with coding than the lazy developers from the manufactureres

69. Phullofphil

Posts: 1846; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

It's the damn bloatware the carriers put in it that makes it crappy when it's not stock. Yeah stuff like touch wiz is nice for some people but I think it should be an optional ap download from the app store. Pluss it takes months especially samsung takes the longest to update to the current android version. Usually about the time the next version comes out there on the last update

71. sgogeta4

Posts: 394; Member since: Feb 02, 2011

You do know Samsung hired a bunch of the best custom ROM developers like the CM7 team right?

46. belovedson

Posts: 1061; Member since: Nov 30, 2010

iphones have issues of their own. for example, each phone holds its battery differently from others. one might have a good charge, next one crappy, next one ok. the problem with that is you can't do jack shiet. unless you enjoy voiding warranty and taking apart the thing

48. TrollingMotor

Posts: 9; Member since: Oct 06, 2011

I believe every phone holds it's battery differently, not just iphones.

52. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

iphone- battery pack covers, even one with flo tv android- multiple extended batteries.

50. warlockz unregistered

This is the problem I'm having, I have had a droid x and a droid 2 most of the time they work fine but here and there it gets laggy or resets on its own. I had iphone 3g great phone but you can't replace the battery on the go and no google gps. I really hope prime goes to sprint vwz is to expensive and really not worth the premium.

54. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

i need this for vzw too though, praying that most if not all carriers get this rumored beast

66. belovedson

Posts: 1061; Member since: Nov 30, 2010

i had a 3g and it was definitely not a great phone. it was so slow. cydia was slow and buggy, the battery was going to the crapper after a year. I could go on and on. the droid family is ok but its good once rooted

45. JT unregistered

What makes a perfect cell phone or close enough to the perfect cell phone?

42. Tony T. unregistered

I'm thinking about switching from Android to Iphone 4s. I've had a Samsung Fascinate, Motorola Droid X and Droid 2 Global and major problems with all of them. The Gingerbread update made the Droid X unusable--my LED message light stopped working, e-mail would not download, reboots and freezes, the Samsung never could deliver my e-mail in a timely manner, even after the "bug fixes" and downloading different mail apps from the market. Similar problems with the Droid 2. I am really on the fence about this, I do see the value of Android but not one of these devices ever worked as advertised. I do like a physical keyboard so I may wait for an Android phone with one, or jump to Iphone.

44. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

The gingerbread update on the X did have issues. Fortunately there have been updates since then which have pretty much cured them. I actually had more issues with my X on Froyo than Gingerbread. And now my Atrix performs almost flawlessly. Give Android another chance. Try an HTC at least before you give up.

49. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

--_-- ever been stuck with an eris for 2 years? htc,vzw, and google abandonment. waiting for the dream nexus prime though, only reason im stickin with an android, well that and the already beastly phones in the lineup

65. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Oh come on, the Eris wasn't bad, and HTC's high end phones get updates regularly. I think they learned their lesson with the Eris.

73. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

i would hope so sniggly, there were many online riots and almost lawsuits because we didnt get updates. we tried so hard, but didn't get very far, in the end, none of that mattered, cus we were left at 2.1 even though froyo could run on our phones.

76. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

yeah, I understand. I was shocked when that happened too. Honestly, though, Froyo was a clunky build of Android. They probably tested the Eris, found that it didn't play well with Froyo, and decided to skip it. That's just speculation though. I was never happier than when I finally got Gingerbread on my Droid X. Almost all lag disappeared. The only major annoyance was the keyboard bug, which has apparentlyy since been fixed.

82. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

it was at that time where i wanted to ditch android, but then i played with n x. it was amazing. biggest screen at that time. playing with the droid x kept me with android, so here i am, waiting for this behemoth that is promised updates because it is through Google. no carrier or manufacturer holding up an update for months

67. Phullofphil

Posts: 1846; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Htc make great phones kinda. My only beef is that the battery life is the worst out of all manufactures. That is proven especially since every person I know with an htc tells me how bad it is. They are great phones but there power management is the worst

75. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

That's partially because of the smaller batteries they use and also because of the big, power sucking screens they build into their phones. I agree in general though, Motorola definitely has better battery life on their phones than HTC at least.

88. iHateCrapple

Posts: 734; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

Gangster cowboy...

40. WakaFlakaD

Posts: 576; Member since: Apr 30, 2011

Super phone of 2011? iPhone 4S was not too impressive. Let's see how this one goes

36. iPWN unregistered

If you don't have an iPhone... Well... You really don't have an iPhone.

38. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

and thats a good thing because it gives you the option to wait for this beast of a phone

41. biggles

Posts: 269; Member since: Oct 15, 2009

Fixed it for you and the rest of the sheep... "If you don't have an iPhone 4s... Well... You really don't have an iPhone."

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