Samsung's Nexus Prime tipped again today, this time a PowerVR GPU gets in the mix

Samsung's Nexus Prime tipped again today, this time a PowerVR GPU gets in the mix
The conflicting leaks about the upcoming Nexus Prime handset made by Samsung are starting to look borderline hype-generating deliberate. After we got a rumor earlier today about a 5MP camera and TI OMAP system chip, now we get a different story from the guys that were sent an actual picture of the device showing the HD screen resolution, that was posted on the same day that Apple was to announce the new iPhone 4S - by accident, we know.

Our hearts stay with this latest leak, though, allegedly coming from a guy inside Google, and not only because the first source broke a nutty story the other day about Sprint getting an iPhone 5 exclusively. It's rather since the latest rumor brings back to the Nexus Prime the beloved dual-core 1.5GHz processor (vs 1.2GHz in the earlier claim today), the 8MP camera with improved sensor (vs 5MP), 2050mAh battery (vs 1750mAh), and on top of that injects a new spec piece - the guy had tipped it will have an Imagination Technologies GPU.

Just a refresher - Imagination Technologies' PowerVR family of mobile graphics subsystems are the best ones on the market, and powered last year's finest - the Samsung Galaxy S and the iPhone 4, then Samsung split ways and went with ARM's default Mali-400 GPU for Exynos, while Apple went ahead and put the new PowerVR SGX543 MP2 GPU in the A5 chip of the iPhone 4S and the iPad 2. If the Nexus Prime indeed has such GPU back in a Samsung handset, then the only thing left to worry us is that these specs are too good to be true.

Moreover, the latest rumor pegs the Samsung-made beast to have an LTE radio again, but also sport that globetrotting GSM/CDMA chip that the iPhone 4S boasts. Now our head is spinning here. The thing is that, as far as we know, while a second generation 1.5GHz Samsung Exynos 4212 chip, and a combined slim and low-power LTE/GSM/CDMA baseband radios like Qualcomm's MDM8615 do exist, and are sampling with customers, they are supposed to go into handsets next year, not in something we'll see next week. 

Moreover, TI OMAP4460 has a PowerVR SGX540 GPU inside, and clocks in at 1.5GHz dual-core officially, which makes it a prime candidate for the latest leak, which, however, says "Samsung's own chipset". So, unless Samsung has quickly sampled Exynos 4212 for itself and it is with PowerVR graphics (unlikely, as it probably has Mali-T604), we'd have to call bonkers on the Exynos/PowerVR alleged combo, which leaves us TI again. 

Actually TI says "up to 1.5GHz" for the OMAP4460, so it might be clocked at 1.2GHz in one case (with the smaller battery), and at its 1.5GHz maximum in another, which takes care of the PowerVR GPU tidbit and the LTE part, since a TI chip has already been paired with an LTE modem in the Motorola DROID Bionic, for instance. 
 
What could split the Gordian knot here is if there are actually two versions with different clock frequencies, baseband radios and cameras in the same shell and with the same 4.6" HD Super AMOLED display - all the while one of them could be exclusive for Verizon, as rumored. And that chassis seems to be the kicker, with thin metal frame, curved HD screen and buttonless front - give us that, and we won't really be worried what combination (s) of dual-core SoC and baseband radio Samsung has used, the chips are all more than fast enough for any app thrown at them so far.

via GSMArena 

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  • Display 4.7" 720 x 1280 pixels
  • Camera 5 MP / 1.3 MP front
  • Processor TI OMAP4460, Dual-core, 1200 MHz
  • Storage 32 GB
  • Battery 1750 mAh(8.33h 3G talk time)

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85 Comments

1. Alantef

Posts: 288; Member since: Sep 14, 2011

WHAT!!?

31. Shade

Posts: 7; Member since: Feb 16, 2011

Hopefully this phone isn't exclusive to Verizon. While it would make some sense, considering VZW passed up on the GSII (even though I could see an earlier release for VZW being more probable.) It wouldn't make sense for the official Google-branded phone, who has shown no carrier favoritism, would make this phone exclusive to only VZW.

32. tuminatr

Posts: 1141; Member since: Feb 23, 2009

thought I read Verizon did not pay for the exclusive

59. Phullofphil

Posts: 1822; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

It is supposed to be exclusive to Verizon for a limited time only, than it's going I think to atliest AT@T if not others. But since they all got there galaxy 2 on all other carriers I wouldn't expect it to be fast move. That also could be where later models might get a different chip inside but I am just guessing on that part.

70. bobnnate

Posts: 25; Member since: Aug 28, 2011

its not necessarily exclusive, just for a little bit.then other carriers can have it

60. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

your welcome.. i linked it to em a while ago :) of course, it was already all over the forums.. lol Lets say none of the rumors are right... and when are they ever.. so lets mix and match what would be realistic... a nexus is top of the line hardware or an introduction to new hardware if some is availible so 1.2ghz is OUT. its going to be 1.5ghz. Im going to bet the farm and say samsung wants to showcase 100% samsung hardware in the superphone, so its going to be the second gen exynos 1.5ghz processor. An OMAP would only be used in either a VZW only exclusive version to get LTE connectivity, or because the exynos 4212 chip wasnt ready for prime time. Reports however, say it is. As far as the GPU goes, returning to the powerVR would be great, but the current GPU is no slouch either. Im going to guess its going to be the current gpu for availability sake, not the powerVR. The camera is 8mpx. Non tech geeks would never understand why a 5mpx is better than an 8mpx even it it had some new fantastic hardware that made it the most awesome camera ever. Save the confusion, its an 8mpx. so.. 1.5ghz exynos 4212 chip no powerVR GPU 8mpx camera LTE version MAY be powered by 1.5 OMAP chip, but unlikely. thats my guess.

78. maxican16

Posts: 364; Member since: Sep 29, 2011

Nice post remixfa. Completely agree that both specs sheets are most likely wrong (for the VZW version arriving within a month anyhow). I am trying to keep reasonable expectations, but I have a hard time believing iBGR would get the inside scoop on this Google/Samsung beast. My instincts scream CALCULATED MISDIRECTION. GSM Arena's specs, however, sound too good to be true. I think Samsung will capitalize on *pple's misstep and release a phone that has shocking specs. I think in part they'll do this by feeding misinformation about said specs, to keep expectations reasonable and avoid any part of the debacle we witnessed on 4 Oct.

79. maxican16

Posts: 364; Member since: Sep 29, 2011

After all, VZW passed up on THE phone of 2011 for this.. so my starting point is the SGS2, and up from there. Some of iBGRs specs barely match the SGS2, and could even be considered less. I may be wrong of course, but I just don't see that happening.

80. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

no, i completely agree. Why would u pass up on the fastest and highest selling android phone of the year, unless the one you were passing it up for was so much better it was worth it? VZW didnt get to be a big guy because it made a ton of bad decisions. And there has yet to be a nexus phone that hasnt either ushered in brand new tech like the nexus1, or been the best of the best of the tech at the time like the nexusS. BGR's wannabe specs are neither. I think GSM arena's specs are a little over the top though. At least they didnt claim quad core and 16 mpx camera..lol

81. maxican16

Posts: 364; Member since: Sep 29, 2011

Right? Haha. I think my gameplan is to force myself into believing the spec list from iBGR.. Kellex from droid-life has been in adamant agreement with it since its leak. Again, instincts are screaming to the contrary, but best to not expect the world. A VZW Nexus with those specs will be BOSS. ...Tuesday can't friggin' get here soon enough!! :s

2. Shangri-La

Posts: 76; Member since: Oct 04, 2011

This is pure awesomeness, pure pwnage. http://nexusprimer.tumblr.com/

4. Allday28

Posts: 339; Member since: Nov 19, 2010

Thats not actually the phone.

6. Shangri-La

Posts: 76; Member since: Oct 04, 2011

And you know because....?

47. Synack

Posts: 688; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

Even if that ISN'T the phone, it looks DAMN good.

62. Phullofphil

Posts: 1822; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

I don't know it really looks like the one that is in that teaser video earlier. The side view looks identical. That really looks like the droid prime. I keen it even says nexus prime on top. Why would you think otherwise. It all fits the description. Well except the fact that for a LTE phone that is kinda to skinny

3. Penny

Posts: 1859; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Probably best to wait for the official specs to be released at this point...

5. ayephoner

Posts: 858; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

what worries me is that they wont be able to price this thing under 400. those specs are unreal. i hope this is all true.

8. Corpsemaker

Posts: 63; Member since: Jul 10, 2010

It will be $300 on a 2 year contract.

12. ayephoner

Posts: 858; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

ahh, good old reliable corpsemaker. wait. who the f--- are you?

16. biophone

Posts: 1994; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

The bionic is 300 on contract and this is so much more then that. 400 + at least if these specs are true. Unless it is subsidized like crazy.

25. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

It may be but if priced well it may sell liked hot cakes

28. ayephoner

Posts: 858; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

i think the 300 entry point is inflated. that price always drops after a couple months. there is def a good deal of hope for this to be 300.

34. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

Verizon will put it that way ,and you are lucky I'll probaly have to pay 600-700 for it, lucky I get a 25% of my plan for bringing my device in and changing my number.. .. another reason why I want google voice in here

37. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I think people are still getting used to the new $300 "top of the line" price Verizon slapped on the Charge and Bionic. As good as this phone is - as much better of a device this looks than those two phones - I don't think Verizon wants to scare customers away. It'll be $300, and the Charge will drop in price.

61. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

its not going to be 400+ on contract, noone would buy it. The bionic is over priced like crazy. I would expect it in the 200-300 range though on VZW since you are going to PAY for that LTE connectivity. and the 200 range after rebate on tmo/sprint/ect.

63. Phullofphil

Posts: 1822; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

All 4g phones are priced at 300 dollars at the beginning. It depends on how much memory is in it like the iphone. It's kinda turning out to be a iPhone but kicker if that last picture I saw is real

7. Tmachaveli

Posts: 425; Member since: Apr 01, 2011

cant wait in till the 11th to see the monster come out of its cave

9. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

trow in the Gorilla Glass... and I even agree is a monster of a phone... for a Samsung.. that is...

11. Alantef

Posts: 288; Member since: Sep 14, 2011

lol said that a month ago....it should have it

15. biophone

Posts: 1994; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

The specs are unreal on this thing.

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