Samsung reportedly scores Apple’s chip business back, 7nm A12 processor in tow

Samsung reportedly scores Apple’s chip business back, 7nm A12 processor in tow
The glory days for the TSMC chip foundry may be over soon, if a new report out of Korea is to be believed. TSMC became the sole supplier of Apple's A-series processors in 2013, and never looked back. This year, it has been tasked with producing the 10nm Apple A11 chipsets, and the expected upgrade super cycle brought on by the iPhone 8, has shot the TSMC shares into the stratosphere, making its founder a billionaire in the process.

That sweet deal with Apple may be coming to an end, a Korean publication tips, as Samsung has eventually won back Apple's chip business. The deal reportedly came through when Kwon Oh-hyun, Samsung's VP for the LSI chip and memory division, visited Apple headquarters to talk details back in June. Since then, Samsung has allegedly ordered extreme ultra violet lithography machines, which are the latest and greatest equipment in chipset making, and these are said to be put aside solely for making 7nm processors for the iPhones that will land in 2018 with Apple A12 processors inside. 

Since next year's crop is expected to be made entirely with OLED displays, Samsung has reportedly managed to convince Apple that there are synergies and savings to be made if it, as the world's largest OLED panel and chip maker, is tasked with producing both elements for the future iPhones that Apple is envisioning. Samsung already listed the most profitable quarter in its history, buoyed mainly by the display, chip and memory divisions, so we can only imagine what its quarters will look like if it manages to win both Apple's display and processor orders for the next iPhones.
source: The Investor



1. scarface21173

Posts: 702; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Designed by apple, made by samsung

2. Tabby_Tiger

Posts: 305; Member since: Jan 23, 2017

And made in China.

4. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

One chip to rule them all.

11. sgodsell

Posts: 7621; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

That's why Apple's A10 GPU is twice as slow as a SD 820. Nevermind a SD 821, or the 835.

12. Nopers unregistered

Yes because gflops and clock speed=gpu performance. The A10 has proven in real world tests to be faster than the 835 in graphical tasks.

38. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It really doesn't matter because the platforms are different. And what exactly is the GPU on the iPhone doing that the SD835 isn't? Side-by-side videos of both phones using the same game saw little to zero difference. I dont care what benchmarks show, because benchmarks are design to push a chip to its max, not based on how you will use it. So basically you're paying more to get what? NOTHING!

14. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1186; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

Did you really just post a Gflops comparison chart? Especially when different architecture has different way of processing each instruction. Yes, Gflop is the measurement of pure number crunching, but I don't honk anyone in the whole world uses their phones for that. Not to mention Adreno is loosely based on AMD architecture (Old ATI actually), which is know for high Gflops, low real world performance. Just look at AMD now, fury X with 8600Gflops still getting destroyed by 5600Gflops 980ti from Nvidia, which proves my point.

18. mikehunta727 unregistered

This chart means nearly absoute s**t in actual real world. A10 GPU easily trades blows with the 821 GPU with the 821 GPU being a few FPS better in long term endurance performance test

22. Ninetysix

Posts: 2966; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Thank you for the link. It proves how awesome the A10 is when it can beat the 820 even with lower glops. (useless metric).

42. mmuc3

Posts: 5; Member since: Jul 18, 2017

Because PowerVR's numbers are based on FP32. I feel strong bias...

44. Ninetysix

Posts: 2966; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Nice catch! Sgodsell didn't get the memo that he's supposed to multiply that number by 2.

17. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Still designed by

45. jasrockett

Posts: 128; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Don't buy a Samsung rebadged as an Apple peoples, just buy the real thing, SAMSUNG

13. ph00ny

Posts: 2077; Member since: May 26, 2011

Doesn't Samsung have foundry in texas?

37. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Chips made in South Korea! :-)

3. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Designed in Cupertino, Manufactured by Samsung. The all new iPhone....

27. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

It's always been like that. Failed try!

21. Mr.Pussy

Posts: 348; Member since: Feb 16, 2017

Samsung make Apple great again. Nuff said.

5. pecapello

Posts: 108; Member since: Feb 19, 2015

Apple by Samsung for Apple in collaboration with Samsung by Samsung for Apple.

9. AronWunarso

Posts: 245; Member since: Feb 21, 2016

For the new iPhone and iPad.

6. DRS1977

Posts: 681; Member since: May 27, 2015

Can't wait for the Samsung Galaxy iPhone 8. Designed in Cupertino Parts by Samsung Made in China

49. ColinW

Posts: 413; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

Copied in Cupertino Parts by Samsung Made in China

7. Supah

Posts: 692; Member since: Mar 08, 2017

2018 Apple iGalaxyPhone

8. Atrixboyyy

Posts: 624; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

Like I said before, they got Apple in their pocket.

28. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

And what you don't realise, Apple decides whose pocket it wants to be in.

47. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

no, they can't decide.. they'll choose to stay away from samsung if they can, but samsung got the best tech out there, so they're forced to throw themself to samsung's pocket

48. kiko007

Posts: 7525; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

That's retarded dude. Samsung is a contractor who can produce these in mass quantity. That's literally the only reason Apple has to do business with them. If they f**k up again (I.e. like they did with the A9) Apple will simply go back to TSMC full stop. Not like 7nm will drastically effect performance in the A series anyhow, considering they are the best chips on the market.

10. nikhil23

Posts: 505; Member since: Dec 07, 2016

Apple users and Samsung users...They noth own Samsung phones. Meanwhile..I just got an update for Bixby voice on my S8. Looks like bixby is out of beta and is available for everyone

29. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Not every Apple user owns Samsung phones. How do you even make such stupid guesses?

15. kiko007

Posts: 7525; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Half of you are completely autistic. You do understand that designing something and having another outlet fabricate it is a common practice, right?

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