Samsung may merge the Galaxy S and Note lines, sets modest Note 9 sales goal

Samsung may merge the Galaxy S and Note lines, sets modest Note 9 sales goal
Big things will be coming from Samsung after Vice Chairman Lee's release from prison, and we don't mean the renewed focus on outing a unique bendable phone like the Galaxy X only. Mr Lee is reportedly embarking on a complete review and overhaul of Samsung's mobile portfolio that has been under pressure this year, both at the top-end, where people balk at high prices and down the totem pole where Chinese brands are eating Samsung's lunch with value-for-money propositions.

One of the ideas that have been floated in Samsung's boardroom meetings for the past year or so, and even pitched to partners, says Korean media today, had been to merge the flagship Galaxy S and the niche Galaxy Note lines, as, ever since Samsung started outing a duo of flagship devices, there's been a considerable overlap between, say, the larger S8+ and S9+ phones, and the Note 8 as well as the upcoming Note 9.

As the profitability in the mobile department takes a nosedive, Samsung apparently mulls folding the Note line into the Galaxy S one at the very top end, meaning that instead of a Note 10 next year, we might simply get a Galaxy S10+ with a 6.4" display and an S Pen stylus. This would save on production and development costs for two different handsets and might explain the rumors that Samsung is prepping not one or two, but three handsets in the S10 anniversary generation next year.

As far as the Note 9 goes, despite all of its upgraded virtues compared to the Note 8, like a much larger battery (4000mAh vs 3300mAh), slightly bigger display (6.38" vs 6.32"), variable aperture camera, and more basic storage, Samsung is setting a comparatively modest sales goal internally of 12 million handsets. That's in line with the expected Note 8 shipments and indicates that Samsung is simply expecting not to lose ground with the line's fans this year, rather than earn a plethora of new ones.

source: The Bell 1,2 (translated)



1. nodes

Posts: 1163; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

might as well just skip Note 9 then.

3. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

I've always skipped the Note, it's always been the Galaxy S but bigger, with new stuff if it was available, most of the time it wasn't so I didn't see the point.

4. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

I know some people that always skip S and get Note. Note and S is for different group of users, if you need S-pen and it's extra features get Note, If you don't care about stylus, and want cheaper Samsung flagship, get Galaxy S, it's as simple as that. Except probably for some special snowflake who buy new flagship every 6 months.

8. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

The only Note users I knew never used the pen, they bought them for the display size which isn't a unique feature anymore. Waiting for the Note means watching everyone release flagship devices for 6 months and when you do buy one you're aware it will be outdated in 6 months or less in some cases. Similar to the Pixel phones they're released at the wrong time of the year, I have no interest in them at all.

13. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

Wow. You have no idea what you're talking about. Since the Note 2 the Note has always been a bigger & better version of the S model that launched 6 months prior. Better meaning more features, better camera, better processor & prior to the S8+ better display. So no, the Note wasn't outdated by the time it released. Just say you have no interest in it & move along.

21. JMartin22

Posts: 2387; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

What he’s trying to say is that the hardware revisions aren’t that vast: they’re mostly components recycled from 6 months prior, of the Galaxy S series before it. Typically, they just use the same SoC system and camera module sensor, with some slight software tweaks. If you want the latest cutting-edge hardware advancements that are fresh out of the gate, you get an S series. The Note series is more or less about a matured software experience from the company’s line up for that year.


Posts: 945; Member since: Feb 23, 2014

Why did they stop doing this with the Note?

6. nodes

Posts: 1163; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

by skip i mean not releasing the Note 9 if they want to merge the S and Note in S10. Note 9 is a minor upgrade anyway.

10. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Just goes to show how useless the s pen is tbh

15. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

By merge that means the phones will come with an S Pen.

2. haikallp

Posts: 319; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Don't think they would though.

5. ijuanp03

Posts: 654; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Better. I don't see the point of having the + and Note if they are similar in specs (save for the pen and a slightly bigger display on the Note). What they should do is improve on the regular "S" model as it is lagging behind the camera department (no dual cam) that could directly go head-to-head with iPhone's flagship (iPhone X).

7. UglyFrank

Posts: 2194; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

They should release the Note and S devices together, the S8 line would've been the perfect time to start the trend given the Note 7 situation rendering the market noteless

9. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Galaxy S10 ordinary flat screen 6.0 or 6.1 inch Galaxy S10 plus edge screen with 6.2 or 6.3 inch Galaxy Note 10 flat screen with 6.4 or 6.5 inch

11. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

All galaxys should be edge screened tbh. They just look more beautiful tbh

12. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Might be for S plus yeah agree with you, but for note line nope due to the S pen.

16. toosmoove

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 28, 2017

Why though? I have the Note 8 & I have no issues using the S Pen from end to end.

22. cmdacos

Posts: 4319; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Yep. Curved screen was never a hindrance on my note8. Much prefer the curved form factor even with moderate use of the pen.

24. srgonu

Posts: 566; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

Yes, am very much used to the edge panel. It really is useful and much better to use with curved panel.

14. kevv2288

Posts: 309; Member since: Jul 30, 2015

Should keep the S series and Note but i think they should switch to releasing flagships once a year like Apple does. Just release the S10 and Note10 at the same time.

20. deleon629 unregistered

That wouldnt be good for their Asian (primarily Chinese) market, which is not only larger, but very accustomed to seeing their brand show up with its numerous variations. Being there's billions of them in a centralized demographic, chance of them buying more is like shooting fish in a barrel in contrast to trying to take on the fical; Western luxury market that-is Apple

17. Voodooman

Posts: 27; Member since: Oct 20, 2017

The Notes is a endangered species, they die because of the similarities with the big Galaxys, their unacceptable (for a Notebook) screen ratio/shape (=edge) and their price. Not to mention the other things taken out that deprived it from the "professional" moniker like the removable battery I used to be a Note 4 addict for over 2 years, sticking with it because I thought that I couldn't replace it with another phone and because i hated 5's and 8's screen ratio. I was surprised to find that I could have 80% of the Note's note taking functions with a good active stylus and a phone with a good digitizer (LG G6)

18. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

It will be great decision for us and for Samsung too! All flagships at the same time is what we want

19. deleon629 unregistered

Being that since the s6+-s8+ & Note series of each are practically the same size, I'm convinced this plan has always been in the works.

23. JMartin22

Posts: 2387; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

They should honestly just consolidate the Galaxy S line and merge the Note line into it. The latter has been losing its defining differentiation factor. How that they’re practically the same size, for all intents and purposes; they then pretty much do all the same things in capability if they wanted it to The Note series made more sense when it offered a much bigger display estate over the S series to utilize the extra software multitasking features. Having a new device every 6 months just cannibalizes sales of the former and it sort of devalues the prominence and prestige of Samsung as a leader in mobile technology. In short, one flagship a year = better

26. darkkjedii

Posts: 31594; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Eliminate the S+, and keep the Note. Smaller model is an S, larger is a Note. Thank me later Sammy.

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