Report: Snapdragon 810 shipments to fall short of original forecasts

Report: Snapdragon 810 shipments to fall short of original forecasts
Considering all of the talk about the Snapdragon 810 SoC's propensity to overheat, is it any wonder that reports now say that shipments of the chipset will fall short of original forecasts? Consider that Sony itself has confirmed that the revised 2.1 version of the chipset still overheats. The manufacturer told owners of the Sony Xperia Z4 and Sony Xperia Z3+ to power off the phone while charging, and at various times during the day. Sony says that both phones, which supposedly feature the Snapdragon 810 v. 2.1 under the hood, will get a software update this summer to solve the problem.

In addition to the overheating, those familiar with the issue say that the chip also has an problem with the quality of its build. That is a direct cut at TSMC since the Snapdragon 810 is based on the company's 20nm process. TSMC is reportedly starting mass production this month of the Apple A9 chip, based on the 16nm process. As soon as next year, the company will be producing chips using the 10nm process.

Samsung is the one company that is benefitting from the Snapdragon 810's issues. This year, Samsung decided to employ its own Exynos 7420 chipset in the entire Samsung Galaxy S6 and Samsung Galaxy S6 edge production run. In the past, Sammy would use its own home grown Exynos SoC on a limited number of Galaxy S models in Europe. Handsets headed for the U.S. were stuffed with Snapdragon chipsets instead.

Interestingly, the Samsung Galaxy S6 Plus (or perhaps named the Samsung Galaxy S6 Note), rumored to be a larger-screened version of the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge, is said to feature the Snapdragon 808 SoC. This chip includes a hexa-core CPU and the Adreno 418 GPU and is used to power the LG G4.

source: MyDrivers (translated) via XiaomiToday

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36 Comments

1. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

QComm should better stop selling it now instead making havoc and embarrasment for OEM after OEM... why not HTC and Sony put a case on QComm for damaging their image and destorying sales of 2015?

4. Carl3000

Posts: 240; Member since: Oct 11, 2014

They have to finish the deals they made with all the OEM. After that then production should be discontinued and scraped for parts. I want to know who was the lead developer of the 810 and why Qualcomm lied over and over about the issues.

28. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

False. Why would you fill orders with a damaged none working chip? The OEM should either take the 808 or call Samsung and use the 5433. Why would you suggest they fill orders with non-working hardware?! That is completely illogical and dumb. If you found out a frined was HIV positive, would you tell him, well its not AIDS yet so just keep on meeting chicks and spending intimate time with them as he had been?

38. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

This is what happens when they try to keep up with Intel. They all crash and burn. No way rolling out new shrinks at this pace is not going to cause problems. There is a reason why Intel takes so long to roll out new designs. Testing and verification takes a long time to do it right!

43. Techist

Posts: 311; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

Except that Samsung is keeping up with Intel with its 14nm Exynos processors, and Samsung isn't crashing and burning. No reports of the Exynos 7420 causing heating problems. This notion that there is only one company in the world capable of doing things right is probably the kind of notion that exists in the minds of those who've never traveled outside of their home state and therefore fail to recognize that there's a lot more to the world out there than they can possibly conceive.

14. FoneAddict

Posts: 263; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

SD810 is an absolute disaster and simply NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE. What a disgrace Qualcomm.

18. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Here something to think about. All Past Xpria Z device overheated ( its the dual glass design thats is thats way and waterproofing ) My Z1 had its overheating ( doing video and charging ) lots of Z2 and Z3 clients had issues too. Still not a single HTC M9 came back with this issue funny eh? Not a single LG G Flex 2 came back as well.. lots of S6 and even more S6 edge came back with overheating issue ( one client even got burned on is hand ) So in my book the SD 810 dont overheat at all. Stop been idiots who follow propaganda.

22. Shocky unregistered

You're in denial, which is fine but keep it to yourself. A number of sites have tested this and it does overheat, well to be more accurate it throttles a lot more to keep the temperature low which affects performance. So yes, it does overheat.

30. singhkaran9830 unregistered

Change your username to moron.

44. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

You like the 810 so much then go buy 1. You just can't reason with some people

2. Mercedes-Benz

Posts: 403; Member since: Jan 18, 2015

Apple and Samsung makes the best mobile chips

12. Tizo101

Posts: 595; Member since: Jun 05, 2015

I thought Apple only designed chips.

24. NateAdam8

Posts: 439; Member since: Feb 17, 2012

Samsung makes most of Apples part for it iPhone

13. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Apple never made any mobile chips. Samsung and some others manufactures these chips for Apple.

19. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Apple chip are also made at the same place as well as at samsung. Poor fanboy who listen to propaganda and dont even know what he is talking about.

41. boosook

Posts: 1442; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

The processors Apple uses are made either by Samsung (iphone, ipad...) or by Intel (macbooks). So Apple does not make any chip.

5. TheGunnyPT

Posts: 252; Member since: Feb 12, 2015

Not surprisingly unexpected. After all 810 is bringing both HTC,Sony and any other OEMs down with the heating issues. Bad play by Qualcomm and 2015 became a clear winner for Samsung/Intel on the chip department (Zenfone 2 with 4GB/w Intel Atom is a pretty good phone) Get ur s* together Qualcomm, or dont make deals with OEMs. U did a great 805 but u had to screw it up with 810 haven't you?

6. hung2900

Posts: 966; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

805 does overheating in form of throttling. However it's based on 28nm and the problem cannot be called bad also.

9. Shocky unregistered

They all throttle and will overheat if left unchecked, that's expected. The issue is the level of throttling required, SN810 throttles to the extent that in many cases user would be better of with SN805.

21. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Samcrap phone have the highest return % of any brand we sell at the store i work. Sell 10 S6 or S6 edge 4 come back with issues ( scratched screen right from the box , Overheating and shutting itself down , Strange screen issues ( edge ) , Battery life is not the same on all S6 and S6 edge ( we used the 3 demo S6 and 2 demo S6 edge to do some test with identical setting and same apps and from one device to another you can get up to 25% difference in battery life ) Only success Samsung had is to spend billion on propaganda to downgrade Qualcomm SD810. Did you know we did not had a single SD810 device come back with overheating? Not only a single freaking device and we are selling more M9 than S6 damn it. No M9... No LG G flex 2... . So in my book the M9 is a better device with less manufacturing issues and its even has a more smooth UI and can keep open much more app so multitasking is a lots better. Since last update the camera is a lots better ( still need to fix the software because using Google camera or Camera FV-5 i am getting much better picture than using HTC camera app... ) Anyway its sad thats ppl listen to propaganda buyed with Samsung money.

23. Shocky unregistered

You think all the sites that tested this were bought off? you're delusional. HTC didn't solve the overheating issue, they just throttled the CPU more, the performance as a result is worse than Snapdragon 805 in some cases. Peak performance is high (before throttling kicks in), actual performance once throttling kicks in is not so great.

31. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Another moron. First off the battery inside the S6 and S6 Edge arent the same size. So thus the device with the larger battery will last longer. As far as issues? I highly doubt their are more returns of Samsung devices vs any other OEM. That is simply a lie. I know because at my company that is what we do we repair or provide insurance replacements of phones. We repair and replace Macs, iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, Dell, HP and Samsung Galaxy s, Note and Tab devices. In the past month, we still still get the most broken iPhones and iPad and Macbooks and we have yet to receive a S6 or S6 Edge. Plenty of Note 4 due to broken displays. But none damaged from the box. I also recall the iPhone 5 arriving damaged and bent inside the box, we've had imacs where the display was broken during shipping or fell from a retailers shelf as well. You claim that no M9 or LG Flex has been returned? So what? Maybe not everybody plays games that makes the CPU overheat. Obviously it must be happening since its being reported. Are you one of those idiots that because you haven't experience something, it must not be happening?

35. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Actually the fact of matter is this that this Moron guy does'nt sell any HTC(he is a liar and story maker). So there is no return of HTC, ofcourse it will return once he will sell any. Second, he is a sales man of HTC shelf only in the store and no one is buying HTC. Store incharge is angry on him and giving him nicely everyday for no sale. So he release his frustration by talking opposite about Samsung because his fellow sales person who is responsible for Samsung is selling like hot cakes. First, he is extremely jealous from his colleague and second, he is miserably unable to sell anything

32. Macready

Posts: 1829; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

I'm sure you convinced about one person with that nonsense story and ridiculous claims. None of our stores share your experiences, at all. Which gets us indeed to the conclusion that you're delusional or lying.

33. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

HTC and SONY are crap companies... both will be shut down soon, special HTC(Heat Throtling Crap). Then you will not get any money to work as their PR.

37. Andrewtst

Posts: 697; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

You are such a moron keep posting nonsense.

15. eduardogallegos0445

Posts: 18; Member since: Apr 07, 2015

Does anyone know if the Mediatek processors also overheat? I'm planning to buy an Xperia C4.

17. Niva.

Posts: 440; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

All processors may overheart and will do so under the right conditions.

26. Shocky unregistered

True, but that doesn't answer his question.

27. Shocky unregistered

I don't recall seeing anything that suggests they overheat and considering they're using Cortex A53 cores in their latest SoC which are not the ones causing the problems I would take a guess and say no, they don't overheat in the same way Snapdragon 810 does. But it does depend when SoC your talking, they've made a lot although most of them use low power cores.

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