Microsoft testing the Snapdragon 820 chip for 2016 models? Latest rumor on the Surface phone

Microsoft testing the Snapdragon 820 chip for 2016 models? Latest rumor on the Surface phone
Reportedly, Microsoft plans on trumping the soon to be released Microsoft Lumia 950 and Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with a pair of new flagship handsets that will be released around the third quarter of 2016. As you might surmise, there really is not much known about the two phones except for one rumor. According to this speculation, these 2016 Windows 10 Mobile powerhouses are being tested with the Snapdragon 820 chipset inside.

The 64 bit Snapdragon 820 chipset, built with the 14nm process, offers four Qualcomm produced Kryo cores, and the Adreno 530 GPU. The graphics processor is 40% faster than the Adreno 430 GPU used with the Snapdragon 810 SoC. To keep components from overheating, the 2016 top-shelf models are expected to use the same advanced cooling technology employed by the Microsoft Lumia 950 XL.

Some fresh new rumors are also circulating about the Surface Phone. According to a report published today, the Surface Phone will be given flagship status even though the focus will be on productivity, not specs. The Surface Phone will be marketed to businesses and will reportedly support Win32 apps and offer "enhanced continuum."

source: NPU via WMPoweruser

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Lumia 950
  • Display 5.2 inches
    2560 x 1440 pixels
  • Camera 20 MP (Single camera)
    5 MP front
  • Hardware Qualcomm Snapdragon 808, 3GB RAM
  • Storage 32GB, microSDXC
  • Battery 3000 mAh
  • OS Windows 10 Mobile
Lumia 950 XL
  • Display 5.7 inches
    2560 x 1440 pixels
  • Camera 20 MP (Single camera)
    5 MP front
  • Hardware Qualcomm Snapdragon 810, 3GB RAM
  • Storage 32GB, microSDXC
  • Battery 3340 mAh
  • OS Windows 10 Mobile

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75 Comments

70. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

if the apps gap continue microsoft must team up with Intel and use their x3 C3000 series mobile CPU's because they can run full windows 10 universal Apps and also run PC desktop programs thus enabling them to use the full PC ecosystem which is bigger than Android or Apple IOS. if the rumors are true that the "Surface Brand" business smartphone runs Win 32 Apps then the Surface smart phone already uses an Intel mobile CPU because no arms CPU can run WIN32 desktop Programs. The Intel x3 C3000 series CPU' can. this is a very smart move because these smart phones can use full windows PC ecosystem strength to offset the lack of good apps that Android and Apple IOS has that Windows smart phones do not have

68. nlbates66

Posts: 328; Member since: Aug 15, 2012

possibly more likely to be an x86 chip as far as the Surface phone is concerned (if it ends up resembling a phone) that doesn't discount other possible releases of course.

66. darealist

Posts: 107; Member since: Feb 25, 2015

No garbage ARM processor for Surface Phone.

64. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Perhaps the phone that can dual-boot Android and Windows Phone? If they implement that, I'd proudly buy a Surface Phone with Lumia 950 XL Specs, Surface premium magnesium-alloy build, and digitizer pen support. Switch to Windows Phone for Continuum, use Android for everything else :P Wouldn't count on Windows Continuum alone until it gets to this point:www.pcworld.com/article/2907539/this-fake-microsoft-surface-phone-is-the-flagship-smartphone-we-want.html

65. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

I would buy a dual booting phone in a heartbeat, so long as both OSs were 100% stock. That would be a gold mine.

63. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Surface phone that does run win32 program does raise my level of interest compare to WP phone in its current form.

61. Mrmark

Posts: 430; Member since: Jan 26, 2013

I was hoping the Surface Phone would feature an INTEL Processing Chip

54. gazmatic

Posts: 822; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

I repeat, the surface phone will be MIDRANGE.

55. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

And what exactly gives you that thought?

56. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Yeah, I somewhat anticipate the Surface to be for Microsoft what the Nexus is for Google.

71. gazmatic

Posts: 822; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

Currently, the only apps that run on arm are those in the store. If you want to run traditional desktop apps you'd have to have the compatibility i.e x86 chip. That's the reason why windows RT was scrapped. Everybody expected it to run desktop apps and it couldnt. Now, the only mobile/phone socs that run x86 are all midranged. Intel's roadmap also suggest midrange specs. hence, surface phone will be midranged.

59. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

midrange spec with flagship price?

30. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

All you android fanboys are sad honestly.. Chrome OS sucked and that's why Google is killing it. It was/will never be successful in its current projection. Microsoft will more than likely never succeed in just the mobile space just as android will more than likely never be successful in the enterprise segment. There are no free apps on the play store that hold a candle to the office programs that Microsoft has and Microsoft will never have the amount of apps that Google had in the play store. Stop the weiner measuring you insecure little girls.

33. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Umm... I don't think you realize how widely adopted Chrome OS is becoming... http://www.omgchrome.com/chromebooks-50-percent-education-share-us/ I would also like to point out that Google's free web offerings of productivity software is sufficient enough for 90%+ of the people who use MS Office software. Granted, they are still limited by comparison, but almost everyone who uses Excel can't code with VB and have no clue of the existence of the Developer ribbon, and even fewer people know what MS Access is even for let alone have the comprehension of how to develop a functioning multi-table database. I'm one of the few that require MS Office, but take it from me, that Microsoft's offerings are more than what almost everyone will ever need.

36. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

Okay looking at your clearly favored Google website I still see that as a drop in the bucket compared to Windows. Ask apple how hard it is to break people from what they use? On the other side ask Microsoft how hard it is to get people to change? Chrome OS is/was terrible.. Its a pretender os

40. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Yes, it's clearly a Google favored website, but I have more faith in Google to be honest about their performance than say... Samsung or Volkswagen.

42. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

Haha! Nice jab but I agree Google does special things. I love android and can't imagine leaving but I also love w10 and can't imagine anything vetted or more rounded. I need and use both heavily

44. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

I know, it was a cheap shot. lol. I do like my chromebook, it's very convenient, but I would not be able to do without my Win7 computer. I just see a lot of future potential with what Google's doing, and for those who are particularly adventurous, you can always run full Ubuntu within Chrome OS browser eliminating a lot of the limitations tech enthusiasts have with the OS.

43. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

Haha! Nice jab but I agree Google does special things. I love android and can't imagine leaving but I also love w10 and can't imagine anything vetted or more rounded. I need and use both heavily

45. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

.... whoa, deja vu.

46. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

I'm blaming my s6 edge plus.. Couldn't be human error haha!

47. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

lol, sure... it happens. Anyways, getting back on topic of the conversation that has absolutely nothing to do with the article... I honestly haven't followed close attention to market share for desktop OS's, but with a little research, I've found that despite what the popular opinion is on this particular site, Google seems to be doing pretty well with it's Chrome OS. http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/08/chrome-os-powered-laptops-first-half-2015.html Now I'm not saying that they're getting ready to beat MS in overall market share any time soon, after all, MS has been in the PC business for decades now. I'm simply saying that Google has impressive sales going on with no indication that it's slowing down.

49. Pattyface

Posts: 1658; Member since: Aug 20, 2014

Fair enough.. I'll agree they are doing well given the position they started at with the pc business

29. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Hmm.... "expected to use the same advanced cooling technology employed by the Microsoft Lumia 950 XL", hopefully the chips stay cool, I believe that I read somewhere that Samsung was already experiencing overheating issues with the 820 chip set. I know it's all rumors for now, but this is exactly what happened with the 810 chip, alleged rumors from Samsung, and we all know how that turned out.

28. vuyonc

Posts: 1094; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

I'm interested in the Surface Phone serving as a test bench for different APIs. DX12 vs. Vulkan anyone? If Qualcomm could squeeze in higher DirectX 12 feature levels into their chipsets, more powerful multi platform apps and even games can probably trickle down from PC to Windows Phone (and probably Android!).

53. vincelongman

Posts: 5843; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The Adreno 510 and 530 support Vulkanhttps://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2015/08/12/qualcomm-introduces-next-generation-gpu-architecture-and-image-signal According to Wikipedia, they also support DX12 feature level 12.1 There's no source, so take that as a grain of salt But Qualcomm are usually pretty fast to support the latest DX feature levelshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno

67. vuyonc

Posts: 1094; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Cool. Guess we'll wait and see

24. ATIX.KHANZ

Posts: 2; Member since: Sep 30, 2015

Well, after reading comments i would like to say that there should be more then just 2 os andriod and ios.beacause competition givs benefit to end user and also more options as per everybody need and fnecy differs.so wp increasing market share will not be just benefcial for wp users but as well for andriod and ios users. Because apple and google will definetly work hard for holding their market share eventualy that will bring more cheaper products to consumers and more featured as well.stil cant see happening this but hopefull for it.

16. Martineverest

Posts: 521; Member since: Oct 27, 2015

The threat is coming the heat is getting hotter.... Google should have delved into full operating system(x86); even if Apple and Google combines their various OSes together, they won't be fully operational until 2020. By then windows would Av claimed another monopoly

18. TerryTerius unregistered

To be honest, people have been saying that exact line for at least 7 years now. And yet Microsoft has made basically no inroads into Google's market share or hurt Apple's income. While I'm NOT saying the current power scale won't ever change, I severely doubt Windows 10 is going to lead to Microsoft usurping Android's dominance or measurably affecting Apple's record setting profits. Much less becoming a monopoly in the mobile market.

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