The first 7nm chipset on Android still trails Apple's A12 benchmarks, despite lofty claims



Android's 7nm processor era will soon be upon us, with the introduction of Huawei's Mate 20 and Mate 20 Pro about two weeks from now. As we witnessed with Apple's A12 Bionic in the iPhone XS and XS Max, the era will be fast, and it will be powerful, all without taking a further toll on battery life.

The first Geekbench result of Huawei's Kirin 980 chipset, built with the 7nm production node, has just appeared, straight from the upcoming Mate 20. The handset scored 3390 points on the single-core test, and 10318 on the multi-core. That's way above the best scores that 10nm chipsets like Samsung's Exynos 9810 in the Galaxy Note 9, or a Snapdragon 845 in OnePlus 6, have to offer on this test, and yet is below what the iPhone XS and XS Max score with smaller amounts of RAM.

The top iPhone XS score on Geekbench is currently 4795 on the single-core, and 11170 on the multi-core test, or 10-30% higher than Android's first 7nm chipset, despite Huawei's expressed confidence that its chipset is better than A12. 

Still, benchmarks aren't that indicative of real-life performance anyway, plus we are likely talking about a pre-release version of the Mate 20, and the results might get higher when it is launched for retail users with finalized software. That same software is the other good news in the Mate 20's benchmark snapshot, as you can see below, apart from the performance boost. The phone will apparently be the first from a major manufacturer to ship with Android 9.0 Pie out of the box. Sweet!

The first 7nm chipset on Android still trails Apple's A12 benchmarks, despite lofty claims

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75 Comments

4. Consumer2

Posts: 161; Member since: Jul 24, 2018

Next advertisement, next year, Apple will go to a Village named Samsung or Sammy and will give free Iphones, because Nobody will buy this overpriced useless Junks. Nobody will give 1200 for Apple and 700 For samsung, except from some few rich boys who has lots of money, and no brain, the rest of the world will ignore this nonsense devices.

5. scarface21173

Posts: 638; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Real world usage is the game, put them side by side see who comes out on top.

8. pradhanmn

Posts: 71; Member since: Feb 06, 2015

Ip xs beat note 9 on phone buff speed test

18. scarface21173

Posts: 638; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Were talking about the mate 20 7nm chip. snapdragon 7nm chip will be released next year compare the note 10 to the new iphone then. Level playing field.

33. Trex95

Posts: 2364; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Mate 20 7nm single core not even as good as iPhone 7 or S9 plus.

46. scarface21173

Posts: 638; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

like i said earlier put them side by side real world usage see who comes out on top.

71. Trex95

Posts: 2364; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Used mate 10 and mate 10 Pro UI is fast other than nothing impressive and touch latency not good at all especially when you text fast unlike iPhone, galaxy or lg phones. Yeah forget to mention that there’s an overheating and drop frame when you playing games.

21. cmdacos

Posts: 3889; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Pocophone beats iPhone excess, what's your point?

41. worldpeace

Posts: 3099; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Oneplus 6 did that too.

70. Trex95

Posts: 2364; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Yeah with worst touch latency.

65. strategic_developer

Posts: 1627; Member since: Jul 17, 2018

?????

32. adecvat

Posts: 626; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Game with MALI? LOL.

6. maherk

Posts: 6715; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I don't think by powerful Huawei meant that it will score the highest in benchmarks. Huawei's keynote detailed other parts that does make it powerful, from not only being powerful as in fast performance, but being efficient, and most importantly it's AI capabilities and the boost it will give to camera processing.

28. YeahYeah

Posts: 248; Member since: Mar 16, 2016

At least someone is teaching phonearena a thing or two..

31. AbhiD

Posts: 613; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Oh yes! Huawei said this, huawei said that. Huawei has said a lot of things in the past that have turned out to be false and fake. GPU Turbo, entire Kirin 970, Ram/Internal Memory lottery and so many other things. Huawei needs to stop lying first for anyone to take them seriously!

7. kamejoko

Posts: 248; Member since: Nov 10, 2011

Base Frequency @ 1.8Ghz. Can not compare with Base Frequency @ 2.5Ghz on ip xs. If A12 run @ 1.8Ghz. Can not have high score.

13. perry1234

Posts: 630; Member since: Aug 14, 2012

Uh, that’s not how comparisons are made. Best of one chip vs best of other. No overclocking , underclocking or cheating on benchmarks.

77. Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

GeekBench is a crappy test. That base Frequency @ 1.8 GHz is the base Frequency of the lower Cortex-A55 cores. There is 4 higher Cortex-A76 cores clocked at 2.6 GHz as well. Yet GeekBench doesn't show or reflect that information for Android. It never did. GeekBench likes to pretend it's real world testing, but that is full of BS. Real world is not running through a small sample size of data in a repetitive manner. That might test the speed of cache memory, but that is so far from a real world test.

16. Aruminiumaian

Posts: 209; Member since: Jul 22, 2017

On Android smartphones Geekbench always show the frequency of lowest-clocked CPU cores. For example Kirin 980's CPU has tri-cluster setup and the least powerful cluster of the three is 4 Cortex-A55 cores running at 1.8GHz, so the base frequency here is 1.8GHz.

11. Balazs.K

Posts: 10; Member since: Jan 16, 2017

First of all I like Android and iOS! I think Phone Arena writes about the Apple Products in the articles like the "Best of the best" but I think that is not too good! After the reviews of an Android phone they usually write a lot of cons that is also found in the Apple smartphones! I feel that the style of this article is against Android. So Maybe it is not true but that can not be accidental that somebody feels like this. Irrespectively of this I like both systems and I think everybody should be happy with the number of the brands becauso the customers have the chance to choose and maybe none of the brands would not be here without each other!

19. Balazs.K

Posts: 10; Member since: Jan 16, 2017

And if we speak about GeekBench, we should notice that when the Geekbench 3 was replaced by Geekbench 4, all the Android SoCs received much lower scores while the Apple SoCs received the same! Geekbench 3: Snapdragon 820: ~2350/~5400, Exynos 8890: ~2100/~6450, Apple A9: ~2500/~4500 Geekbench 4: Snapdragon 820: ~1700/~4000, Exynos 8890: ~1800/~5100, Apple A9: ~2500/~4400 Pretty interesting isn't it?! And this scoring system is valid novadays. And There was not a lot of articles about this thing.

15. notmyresident

Posts: 12; Member since: Feb 12, 2017

Exynos 9810 has a higher single core score but a lower multicore score at 3700 and 8900, respectively.

34. Trex95

Posts: 2364; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Single core on my S9 plus 3780, multicore 9080. Let’s see how’s Exyons 9910.

22. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2128; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

My GB4 scores on XS Max 4925 highest single core/ 11495 multi

23. obedchuni

Posts: 315; Member since: Jun 16, 2014

Huawei was the first to announce the 7nm Kirin Processor but Apple was the first to bring 7nm processor among the consumer, Huawei have publicly told that their chips are better than apple A 12 SoC, it will interesting to see the speed comparison between A12 SoC and Kirin 980.

69. Trex95

Posts: 2364; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Hope Kirin 980 doesn’t overheating like Kirin 970.

25. NinoH

Posts: 130; Member since: Feb 09, 2018

Well after all apple has invested a lot in their chips, they say that 7nm is extremely hard to make on a large scale. Off course apple is making better SOC-s. I expect that from a company that makes software and hardware hand in hand.

26. OneLove123

Posts: 849; Member since: Aug 28, 2018

More ram does not= more power, Phonearena.

27. Balazs.K

Posts: 10; Member since: Jan 16, 2017

But Phone Arena maybe wants to raise the glory of the iPhones with the "fact" that iPhones have more processing power even with less RAM!

37. toukale

Posts: 611; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

I keep asking myself, why do other oem's keep having to compare themselves to Apple and iPhones? I can't get a good answer, everyone does it. From Samsung to all the little guys, they just can't help themselves. It's like they need to justify themselves to Apple/iPhones and that is the problem, they keep holding the iPhone up at the device to beat. Why is that? You are not going to get iPhone buyers to buy your products. People know what they want, they either want an iPhone or they don't.

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