Google Pixel 2 rumored to be the first phone to pack Qualcomm's Snapdragon 836 chip
by Cosmin Vasile / Jul 24, 2017, 7:31 AM
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is the next big thing to be unveiled in the smartphone industry, but it's the Google Pixel 2 that will mark the debut of the most powerful chipset on the market, Qualcomm Snapdragon 836.
Fudzilla reports sources in the industry have confirmed to them that Google's Pixel 2 flagship will be the first to pack the new Qualcomm Snapdragon 836 processor, unlike Samsung Galaxy Note 8 that's expected to include a previous version of the chipset (and Samsung's own Exynos 8895 chip).
The new Snapdragon 836 CPU will be 10% faster than the predecessor, and it won't be exclusive to Google, as other smartphone companies will pick it up for their own high-end devices. Xiaomi and OnePlus could follow Google and include the Snapdragon 836 processor into some of their devices by the end of the year or in early 2018.
Aside from being faster than the current Qualcomm top-of-the-line chipset, Snapdragon 836 will be smaller, and it will offer significant improvements for cameras allowing users to take better pictures.
Also, the clock speed for the GPU and CPU will be increased, which will supposedly result in faster processing and small battery life improvements, sources familiar with the matter claim. Apparently, Qualcomm had enough time to make its chipsets run at faster speeds and consume less power at the same time.
- Display 5.0" 1080 x 1920 pixels
- Camera 12.2 MP / 8 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, Octa-core, 2350 MHz
- Storage 128 GB
- Battery 2700 mAh
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I thought it would be 840/845 in 2018?
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 7:38 AM 0
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Pointless. Android and its Java Virtual Machine will still lag regardless of the CPU.
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 7:41 AM 0
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Ah! Lag, eh? Well, I know that your statement is nothing but mere 'Troll Tale' but the fact is, Pixel doesn't lag...! Now, upper mid-range (SD660) and high-end (SD835) ARM SoCs are strong enough to run Android effortlessly... Even mid-range SD625/626 runs smooth 90% of the time... But yes, iOS and Windows Phone/Mobile prioritize and execute the UI thread first and hence even my Lumia 430 rarely stutters... It slows down from time to time (Being a humble Cortex-A7 Dual-Core, it's quite expected), but the UI "NEVER" lags or stutter and it's something I wish Android had...!!! If I scroll, say a pictures gallery on my Lumia, the UI scrolls fluidly to the end yet the pictures load after a sec or two, sometimes even more... Whereas in Android, if I start scrolling right after opening the gallery, the UI starts to stutter and lag, even on my S6, until the whole page is complete loaded... It's not a weakness, it's just a character flaw... The Android's architecture possess a remarkable potential for customization, and the lag is just a small price to pay for a customized and totally unique experience... Oh well... G'Day!™
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 8:16 AM 0
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iPhone's don't have real multitasking, or split screen multitasking. Not to mention they also have low resolution displays, so they don't have to push as many pixels around. Also iPhone's are fancy task switchers that halt the task you just left to bring the next task into the foreground. So GreenMan you are still flogging a dead horse called Windows Phone, or sorry Windows 10 mobile. Today hardly any Android smartphone lags. Especially when the CPUs and GPUs continue to get better all the time. Not to mention they have faster ram speeds with more ram and storage. As a matter of fact many flagship Android smartphones this year are starting to use LPDDR4X ram that is multi channel with a speed of 1866 MHz. Not even the current iPhone 7's have that fast ram. It's comparable to a desktop with speeds like that.
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 8:32 AM 0
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sgodsell, your statement doesn't make a valid point, I fear laddie... 1. iOS and Windows Mobile (Which I presented as an example, regardless of it's current status) DOES prioritize and execute UI thread first. Whereas in Android, everything is in single thread, including the UI, and the processor executes The UI systematically and not on priority, which cause it to lag, notably in low-end smartphones... 2. Yes, the modern hardware is strong, which I 'also' noted in my previous post, but that doesn't make an OS efficient... It's like how muscle car makers put big engines in their cars, to make-up for the heft and poor balance... Poor optimization, I'd say... A Porsche (or iPhone), on the other hand, flies with just an inline-6 (Or a Dual-Core)... Ask Techie, he presumably owns a Porsche 911 (996) with that 'fried egg' headlights ...! 3. Yes, RAM speed DOES matter... And yes, the previous generation Snapdragon 821 had a Quad-Channel 16-Bit 1866Mhz RAM with 29.8 GB/s speed, on par with desktops, without a doubt... Speaking of which, just the other day, I was wondering why The Snapdragon 835 has a Dual-Channel 32-Bit RAM with the same 29.8GB/s speed...? Of course, the speeds are the same, but channels are fewer...? I heard that more channel translates into better efficiency...? Cost cutting measures, perhaps? None of the tech-heads on the internet seems to notice this drastic change...!!! 4. About The iPhone's Apple A10 Fusion... Well, I can't seem to find the clock-speed of RAM anywhere on the internet, but Wikipedia states it's DDR4 so it's probably in the neighborhood of 1,600+ Mhz, probably Dual-Channel, could be Quad...! And besides, even Qualcomm's custom Kryo 280 lack the single-core muscle of The A10...! Oh well, G'Day!™
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 9:01 AM 0
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Well said. Coming back to the Pixel 2 topic i would say the only 2 real competitions for me in 2018 would be between Samsung Note 8 and the Pixel 2, if Pixel 2 comes with dual speakers it would be my choice if not then the Note 8 would be the choice assuming it comes with dual speakers.
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 10:21 AM 0
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If they can get the same throughput utilizing less channels then they would do it. Not only out of cost but also complexity of the chipset/circuitboard and traces and quad channel is a bit more complex than increasing the data path.
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 11:14 PM 0
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Now the 835 is a mid range chip. Anything that doesn't come with the 836 is cheap crap.
posted on Jul 24, 2017, 8:16 AM 1
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