Galaxy S8 may be Samsung's first phone with pressure-sensitive Force Touch display

Galaxy S8 may be Samsung's first phone with pressure-sensitive Force Touch display
Samsung may be gearing up to introduce a Force Touch display technology with the Galaxy S8 models, tip insider sources, and is already testing such tech for the devices. The most popular phones with the pressure-sensitive input method are Apple's iPhones since the 6s and its 3D Touch screen, but others like Huawei also have such handsets on the market.

According to one anonymous Samsung supplier, "Samsung is mulling to adopt the force touch technology partially from the S8 but the full adoption will come in one or two year. It is a matter of time before other major Android smartphone makers deploy the technology that will help enhance user interface." Google introduced the so-called App shortcuts with Android Nougat, which basically requires just a long press, but Force Touch is a much more granular way to control the interface with a pressure-sensitive technology

A Samsung component division exec has also tipped that the Force Touch tech is coming to its flagships "in the near future," though it may take a while to roll down the midrange, so that's a second source to hint at a Galaxy S8 with pressure-sensitive display right there. We've been hearing this story for the Galaxy S7 as well, but the S8 is apparently going to be redesigned completely, so there is a much higher chance for a Force Touch display to happen there.

source: The Investor



1. pongkie

Posts: 663; Member since: Aug 20, 2011

well what's the difference with iPhone's 3D touch, apple my sue again

21. UglyFrank

Posts: 2200; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Synaptics probably have more to do with pressure sensitive touch than Apple

23. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The difference? Is Force Touch was made by Synaptics, the leader in touch-based technology. Under Android it would be more useful vs how Apple uses their version in iOS.

26. AlikMalix unregistered

Explain... list all the uses with 3D Touch on an iPhone (ALL OF THEM) including 3rd party apps that employ the tech in various ways!!! Then explain how it would be better and how it would be technically possible code and hardware wise on android. Or, just stop making up s**t.

38. sgtdisturbed47

Posts: 974; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

Shortcuts to new browser tabs, start new text and new email, shortcuts to set alarms, new calendar entries, new notes and new reminders. So, these shortcuts exist to make life a little easier but not by much. Android has little to no need for this, thanks to Widgets and custom shortcuts. Apple didn't create something drastically new, it was just their answer to having widgets and custom shortcuts. As a dual user of iPhone and Android, I never ever use 3D Touch and often forget that it's a feature. It's there for whoever uses it but my habits dictate that I just open the app and enter a new search or start a new conversation without squeezing the screen first.

41. AlikMalix unregistered

Is that all you guys think it does? Have you tried games that use it in controls? Tried drawing with just about any app? Tried using a cursor by pressing harder on the keyboard? Tap on any image and swipe up? Forcetouch a contact? Have you even tried it in email? I finally have proper control over my braking and accelrating, or switching weapons (and reloading) in FPS. What about deploying troops: one by one or press harder for all. Man that's just off the top of my head.

48. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Why are you mentioning games? It doesn't work in all games. he mention the things that would be more synonomous across a wide range of devices. Namely, he mentioned that things that would be exactly the same based on it basic usuage at the OS level. We arent talkign about what devs could or have done with it. The problem is, you didnt have an argument. He answered your question. I can't make ahuge post on 3D Touch, because even though I have an iPad pro, Apple didn't even bring the hardware to the device, even though they raised the price. I'm certainly not going to buy an iPhone to have it. But my mom lives with me. I bought her the iPhoen 6S Plus. She is 80 years old. She isn't goign to install games. What you asked for was simply impossible, because everyone uses different apps. But from the OS level, 3D Touch is 100% identical on all devices and right not it si a useless gimmiky feature. All you have to do is go to Synaptics website and YouTube and you can see the Force Touch Demos. You can see the their solution si more stable vs Apple, which is why Apple asked Synaptics to make the drivers for their own solution and the solution does more under Android vs what it does in iOS. The reason I know it will be better on Android, because every advanced solution has been better on Android vs iOS, because the solution is design to be an industry standard, not some money grabbing proprietary BS. Wnat an exmaple? compared Apple's OneHanded mode to Samsung's. Which is better? Be honest or I;m done with you and this conversation. As you guys say, everythign on Android is a gimmicky and useless until you get it on iOS. When Appel had the highest reolsuiton displays, you all coudlnt even stop talkign about PPI levels. Now that you dont have such, now 1440p and higher PPI are a waste and blab blah blah excuses. No one if focing you to pay all that money for your handicapped devices and software. But stop tryign to act like we dont know what we are talking about. I use an IOS and Android device everyday. I found 3D Touch to be useless the way Apple implementedit, because i can do those thinsg faster on iOS by other means. Example. I have mentioned it many times. I like how I can press on the camera and pick reprd to shot a photo. However, I can actually launch the cameta and pick photo or record faster than waiting for the screen to get my press, then flow out the menu and choose my option. Its not better. It terrible. Even Android quick toggles are betetr in that pressing them takes you to the setting and has a dual function. This is what Appel should have did when they TRIED to copy Androds quick toggles and they didnt even make a equal solution There solution is an on/off button. LAME! On Android its an ON/Off button and a shortcut to the advanced settings of the toggle. MUCH BETTER! A gimmick is a gimmick whether I have it or not. Its a gimmick on Android. Its just more useful.

49. AlikMalix unregistered

Wow dude, just wow. I asked for something factual, no halftruths, and less bulls**t, and you double down instead. Why the hell do you keep bringing up your opinion about the damn reachability option? I like iOS version better, its easier to activate, and iOS is better designed to take advantage of it. That's it... it's different from android not better or worse - that's up to each individual consumer. I mentioned games because that one thing that improved my enjoyment with forcetouch. There are already half the 3rd party apps that implemented forcetouch one way or another - your idiot mind said that "android would be better". How the hell can you claim that if you can't explain how iOS implementation works - I don't know about you, but our mobile OS are centralized on apps made by devs - and devs support for apples features is extremely high and diligent. You have no idea of all the features of forcetouch on iOS - I can tell that from your rant! You keep referring to the damn context menu - that's only one of hundreds implementations through you the iOS (not even mentioning the vastness of implementations in apps. I remembere waiting for things to pop up when you longpress - don't freaken compare the speed of forcetouch to long press - after you get used to it - longpress seems like an eternity! Once again accesing photos from the app icon is not the most efficient way - I use control center or just swipe from the lock screen - my photo app is hidden. But using forcetouch context menu to jump directly to parts of apps is sommuch better than entering apps then navigating to that tab and tapping again to enter. Try other apps for crying out loud - you avoid the settings app contextual menu because it's actually a time saver - when you can jump directly to battery, messaging app, calling app, numbers/pages apps, email, using forcetouch in browsers, using forcetouch with google apps and services - oh wait, yep, google already implemented forcetouch on iOS! You keep referring only to photo app context menu as example as if that's all forcetouch is used for on the entire OS. Avoiding the fact that it's supported by third party for a long time now - and that's what makes it really great!!!! Apple has added hundreds of more functions to forcetouch with iOS 10. Try it for a month. I compared forcetouch and how i navigate on iOS to android (Samsung and LG) and guess what: less taps, less wait, faster and more coherent navigation. Your OPINIONS aren't facts. Why do you keep buying Apple products if you clearly have a "stick up your ass" for it? From you damn rants I can tell you don't use iOS and don't even know most of its features and shortcuts and abilities. How you like my long ass paragraph? Annoying isn't it? I'll chuck up your rant to "your opinion" and that's all it is. None of what you said is full truth, it is overexsgursted and some is just BS.

46. BoardDWorld

Posts: 117; Member since: Aug 17, 2016

It doesn't mater to explain, millions of minds will have it available. What matters is Samsung taking it on board is great for every Android phone because Devs will take the tech it more seriously.

2. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

But it's a gimmick..........until Samsung has it LOL!

3. maherk

Posts: 7065; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Just like all Samsung's gimmicky features that you enjoy now on your iPhone, right? And IMO, it is still gimmicky and would rather they utilize the extra space this technology might use in the battery department.

4. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Well it should be doable without too much sacrifice, so just put it in, just incase someone finds a use for it.

25. AlikMalix unregistered

It needs to have 3rd party dev. support. And be applied system wide. Otherwise, it's a fail if it's only applied to a few stock apps like that Chinese phone that they showed on a prototype a week before Apple started selling their devices with 3D Touch.

7. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Has Apple borrowed some ideas from Android? Sure. What exactly have we copied from Samsung in particular? Big screens? Lol!, try Dell and HTC buddy! Heck, the whole industry is pretty much selling their spin on the original iPhone.

9. maherk

Posts: 7065; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Funny how you use the word borrow instead of copy when you talk about Apple. And Apple "borrowed" quick toggles, multi window, predictive keyboards from Samsung. And as far as I know, Apple wasn't the 1st to use 3d touch, so you might want to try again buddy.

15. bucky

Posts: 3797; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Samsung wasn't first for any of those. The problem with Samsung is they make it more obvious than other oems. But this whole copying thing is silly. It's all trends in features and one manufacturer might finally find a useable purpose or perfect it. Once that happens, others want a piece too.

45. AlikMalix unregistered

True... it's not "borrowed" unless they plan to give it back (I crack myself up). It's copied! OR... It's stolen - if whatever it was, is patented and either used unlicensed or outright infringed.

27. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

What about One-Handed mode which is poorly done on iOS. On Samsung's devices even when you use one-handed mode, 100% of the screen contents is still there. On iOS you lose 60% of the screen content. Next, Apple will be using Samsung OLED displays. Now for me, because displays are industry standard, it isn't copying. But, since you all and Apple dissed OLED displays for years, until their PPI levels beat Apple, until the colors were more eye-popping and look better and now you know LCD's are actually the garbage tech. But since you hated OLED's for so long, you will be copying that too. Ten wireless charging will be next and copying curved displays. All which the next phone will have. How many posts are you going to make claiming Apple's is better then? The fact is, everything on Samsung phones, gimmicky or not, are better than the iPhone. Considering we get better stuff for the same price. Same price and I get a 1440p display which uses less power than Apple's own 1080p display. A chipset that may nto score as high on benchmarks, yet the devices do far more per clock cycle. While the iPhone is running just a few apps, I am running that and then some. The fact that Galaxy devices have far better battery life too shows they are better. They all copy. You just seem to forget when Apple does it. Hypocrite!

30. AlikMalix unregistered

One handed mode is done differently - your opinion on it is subjective. Try again with some non-made up "facts". OLED isn't Samsung invention and it was crap compared to LCD for a long time - once OLED improved I expect manufacturers to utilize the better one. Even though if you pick up a display unit from bestbuy OLED still has burn-in. There's no wireless technology available on ANY device yet!!! It's inductive charging and once again Samsung didn't have it first - MY TOOTHBRUSH DID!!! And OLED uses less power only on mostly black image and UI. Otherwise efficiency is debatable. Gladys do NOT have better battery life because it gets used up on standby (android issue) which is what most phones actuallly do. I see everyone charging their device at the end of the day so GTFO. THERE AREsamsung feature which are better or non existent on iPhones or iOS. But there are features that are better or nonexistent on iOS and iPhones that are not on Samsung or the plethora of android devices put together. Stop your damn worshiping - it's stale and annoying.

50. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

You are so concerend about who did what first. Who cares? The downside to first is, first has to deal with makign a solution on what is available. Apple made their one handed mode after Samsung made their solution. Which si better? It doesn't matter. The fact is, each device has its own solution and you ahve to work with the solution provided. PERIOD. So better is always subjective, until it isn't. Overall I feel Samsung solution si better simply because 100% of the screen content remains, no matter hwt asize I make the window. With Apple you lose 60% of the content andnow you have to scroll the content fo the box. I find that to be stupid and convoluted. We all know Apple hates to license anything from another OEm, especially a competitor. So Samsung's way is license and if Apple wants to keep 100% it means paying Samsung which they are trying to get away from. So their solution si a terrible workaround licensing. Its that simple. Apple's way isn't better, it's also not actually worse. Its just there way and you have to deal with it whether you like it or not. Apple Pay is another example. Apple tried to set a trend by using NFC only, in a country where NFC is less than 10% usage. They assume because they chose it, every retailer was goign to go and spend millions of dollars just to support Apple. Samsung chose to spend the millions and support existign technology and it works better. I get both solutions in one device and both work without be doing extra. I swipe, I pick a card and I hold it to the machine. The hardware pings both solutions and reader accepts which one sit designed to work with. DONE! With Apple you lose the effectiveness of the technology because they chose a terrible solution. No which one is better? Samsung's is betetr because it supprot 2 technologies in one device wherte you dotn have to worry if it will work. So thus it makes it better no matter what I personally or you personally feel about it. This is 100% identical to this. If you live in a place where there is always snow on the ground, then havign snow tires all year round makes sense. But I live in a place where climate changes and snow is one a year. So thus all season tires is a better solution vs having a set of tires I have to change every time a new season scmes. IOS downside are simple. Advanced feature are limited to what Apple can make to drive them income. They are not about what solution works best. Android as I think we can agree can give to much choice vs limiting things that should be limited. Having said that, I rather have more choice than NONE.

32. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Agree, one handed mode is 100% better then on iOS.

51. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

And nothing wrong with that. But its just an opinion. You like one better, never means it is better. I liek the double-tap launch of the feature. I don't liek that I lose 60% of the screen content. Defeats the purpose of making what you see smaller. Its worse than Windows. Windows, when you shrink the screen, it shrinks the content to fit, but lose a percentage of content. When it doesn't always have too. Samsung's way keeps it all there I consider it a plus. The idea is to make it smaller so I can use it all with one hand. If I have to scroll a tiny box, it defeats the purpose. if I didn't need to scroll on the larger screen, I don't want too wen it smaller. I preferred when Samsung has it where I swiped for the smaller screen vs dragging from one corner. But the issue with the swipe is, it was too easy to swipe for other gesture and make the one-handed mode come out. The same to me as with double-tap. Because double-tap also launches Voice Control if you hold the button to long. Or it launches Siri. Again, its the same downside of similar gestures being tied to one hardware element.

40. sgtdisturbed47

Posts: 974; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

OLED outside of a more stringently calibrated "Basic mode" does have colors "pop" in an unrealistic, oversaturated way (yes, on a display panel that can't display more than sRGB gamut so it's oversaturation and not displaying more colors than the panel can actually display). That's not a strength. Also, Note 5 vs iPhone 6S Plus, I could never get 3 days of use out my Note5, but easily can on my iPhone. Wireless charging so you can set your phone down and not touch it while it's charging? Cool feature once in a while, but has a ton of room for improvement. You call Samsung phones "better" lol sure, that's YOUR preference. I use both an S7 Edge and a 6S Plus and find myself enjoying the iPhone experience much more, including far better battery life.

52. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

So what is there to debate? I refuse to debate preferences. Better is always subjective, until its not. You're saying, well snow tires are better than all-season radials, because i live in a place where its snow on the ground 365 days per year. In this case, it better because you don't have a choice. You could use all-season radials, but they offer no true benefit over snow tires. Betetr where subjective has no room? Apple Pay vs Samsung Pay. Apple Pay only works with NFC. In the USA, MST is the higher most use technology. Smasung didn't jsut pick MST, because then you can use it with NFC. But MST still has a larger usage. But when you support both, you have 100% usage while Apple offers 10% by choosing one. Wireless charging. There are 2 standards. if Apple brings it, they will choose one standard over the other. Samsung chose to support both. Why? Less thinking. The concept is, to have it work, not be forced to remember when it will and when it won't. The "best" solution is one where preference won't matter. The solution just works more times than it doesn't and that is what makes it the best solution...PERIOD. Its not about who did it first or last, its about who did it right. Apple use to do this, now they just release BS and see what you guys will fight over. The biggest downside about IOS will always remain. Whether you liek the solution you have, you either use it or you don't. Either way you are stuck with it. With Android, yes they provde a solution. if I don't liek it, in most cases I hav the ability to change it to be with what works best for me. I was unable to do without certain things on a phone. I have 3 things on a phone I must have. The only way to get them on iOS is to jailbreak. I got sick of APple breaking the jailbreaks with their constant software upgrades for stuff that worked and then they broke it. With Android I dont worry I set it and forget it. IOS doesn't allow this in the caes that matter to be. Thus it is not the best overall solution. It doesn't matter than millions of people can work with it. There are twice as many who can't. And that is why Windows has 1.4Billion users and OS X as 135M user. Its why Android has 1.4Billion users and Apple literally has 700M users of iOS.

19. Unordinary unregistered

Sorry but im glad i dont have half the s**t on my iPhone that they feed you guys.

28. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Good. But you don't have to be sorry for it. Samsung phones don't have a lot. What lot are you speaking of? Iris Scanner? It works great. doesn't get in the way. Has a better set of cameras, with better features.

43. AlikMalix unregistered

I second that. That's one of the biggest reasons that put me off on android phones. Get me a few feature that work right than cluttered mess of features that may or may not interfere with my needs from a mobile device.

53. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The fact is though, all electronics have advanced features. As long as they don't get in the way of what you actually need, they are find. I agree, when I first bought a Galaxy S, I hated to get all the popups of thinsg the [hoen can do, even though I didnt want to use them. But there is good and bad with that. First its good that the device show popup demos to introduce me to a feature that could make what I am doing better. Its also great I can turn them off if I don't want them. Smasung worked hard to get this right and now is so mch better. Now advanced feature show screen popups, that dont get in the way. They blink to get yoru attention. You click and check it out. So want it, you turn it off. DONE! Again I get the choice and that is more important to me than having my choice made. Because a choice made for you, isn't one for your best interest. It's like a job. some jobs require you to perform a certain set of steps to insure it is done right, like putting things together. Some jobs allow for flexibility in that, we don't care how you get it done, as long as the end result is the same. I personally cannot work in stringent atmospheres. That is why I use Windows, Android and Linux. I gave OS X a fair shot. I use to own a PowerBook with Mac OS 7 on it. OSX runined the PC experience for me so I use Windows, I gave iOS a fair shot. I owned 2 iPhones and 5 iPad and 3 iPod Touch devices. I have an iPad Pro. Its a nice device. It does what i need it to do. I get to play all the music ndn videos and games I bought since 2007 and that's good enough for me. Android to me is better only because I need 3 things Apple refuses to provide. I need mass storage, I need to be able to transfer any file type via email or some PTP connection and I need an open file system to be able to have any app design to open a certain file, to be able to do so. I also need to be able to plug my phone into the OS and have it work as I expect.

6. cmdacos

Posts: 4392; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Nope still a gimmick

16. bucky

Posts: 3797; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

I thought the same thing too but with iOS 10 I use mine all the time. As long as it's baked in the os properly, it's very useful.

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