Damian Dinning tweets his response to criticism of 8MP PureView camera on Nokia Lumia 920

Damian Dinning tweets his response to criticism of 8MP PureView camera on Nokia Lumia 920
While no one really expected the PureView camera on the back of the rumored Nokia Lumia 920 to be 41MP like on the Nokia 808 PureView model, there was speculation that the Windows Phone 8 powered device would have a 21MP shooter on back. But the way this rumor got started wasn't based on any particularly outstanding leak. You see, the code name for the device, "Phi" is the 21st letter of the Greek alphabet. Also, a teaser video for the device ran exactly 21 seconds. Thus, a 21MP camera should be on the phone. After all, how can you refute logic like that?

Back in July, after the 41MP Nokia 808 PureView was released, a Nokia VP by the name of Richard Kerris said that a Nokia Lumia PureView model would be coming shortly. The obvious thought was to assume that the same 41MP was going to be on the new Lumia device.

Alas, as we told you on Monday, the leaked Nokia Lumia 920 is rumored to come with an 8MP shooter on back and is still expected to be marketed as a PureView device. Even though this is all conjecture as the phone has not been announced by Nokia, a camera expert for the Finnish based handset manufacturer, Damian Dinning, send out a number of tweets explaining how an 8MP camera can still be classified as a PureView model. Dinning made sure not to give any secrets away because after all, we are talking about a rumored camera on a rumored phone.

Some of the tweets by Dinning pointed out that PureView is not a single spec or feature and is about using "optics, pixels and image processing in new and different ways to allow you to do things you otherwise cannot." He emphasized that PureView is not about the number of pixels, but what you do with them. He also adds that he knows of no 21MP camera which lends more credence to the speculation that the Nokia Lumia 920 will have the aforementioned 8MP shooter on back. 

You can check out all the comments from Dinning by clicking on the sourcelink below.

source: DamianDinning via SlashGear

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1. redmd

Posts: 1926; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

So is this a sort of confirmation of the 8 MP pureview?

4. No_Nonsense unregistered

No, but all will be revealed

19. MeoCao unregistered

As far as I know, PureView is a technology to crunch big images into smaller ones. With only 8MP do we need any special technology? And without hi res camera how can we take picture of far objects, a favorite feature of PureView?

12. dickwyn

Posts: 621; Member since: May 07, 2012

he just said is not about the amount of pixels but how the phone utilises it

41. epdm2be

Posts: 819; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Bollocks. Pureview is all about capturing images with large pixel count and downscaling them to lower photo's. From 38Mpixel sensor to 5Mpixels photo. Also the first paragraph "But the way this rumor got started wasn't based on any particularly outstanding leak" The "rumor" started because Windows Phone is technically restricted to 20Mpixel sensor max! Not some s**t about phi or 21-second teasers. The thing is that the 920 WILL have a larger sensor but it will only use 1 (one) pureview mode. It´ll probably have a 16Mpixel sensor internally and downscales all images to 8Mpixels. This will have a significant effect on picture quality though the 808 PV will still be better. Also his faiytale about that LED is bollocks. Xenon is STILL superior. This phone sucks! It only uses Pureview as a marketing trick. It's just as iProduct all bling and no substance (and lots of marketing shoved behind it). I don't believe in it anymore! I don't believe Nokia anymore! I don't trust Microsoft anymore!

24. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

Nokia reps told us before that the because of the years of development of the 808 pure view in the time of symbian the technology is generally only compatible with symbian software and any version of it in the future brought to windows would have to be a very scaled back modified version. Its most likely a wp pureview would be 5-8 mp at most and would only have small benefits over regular 8 mp cameras

2. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2349; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

:-\ give atlease a 12mp shooter :-)

25. neutralguy

Posts: 1152; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

true. 12MP shutter is not too big compared to 8MP. It's slightly bigger but not in a big factor. Use the 12MP used in n8 and utilize some mind boggling DSP.

3. Adithya7184 unregistered

if its 8mp camera....nokia you are dead....

37. Cyan3boN

Posts: 446; Member since: Feb 23, 2012

didnt u read his tweets nutcase. its not about the pixels.

40. ScottSchneider

Posts: 336; Member since: Dec 06, 2011

Yes IT is not about the Pixels. But If the Lumia 920 comes out with the 21er or even say the 41er, Nokia will have a winner in their hands.. n they would sell 920 like hot cakes... There aren't a lot of customers who will go buy products thinking it is not the MP that counts... They buy it for the Tech specs... It is most of the time the Technical Specs the phone has... Every one buy Quad-Core... Probably a year from now, Quad-Core could be gone and the next gen Processors will take over... IF they arent giving the same to the customers who are waiting for the 21er 920, then what is the difference between the Ativ S and the 920...

5. Bluesky02

Posts: 1439; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

Gimme a slight better version of N8

8. cepcamba

Posts: 717; Member since: Feb 27, 2012

Errr..... 808?

11. ogy_dogy

Posts: 453; Member since: Jun 29, 2012

lol... slightly :D

27. cepcamba

Posts: 717; Member since: Feb 27, 2012

Oh yeah your right. 808 is a mammoth upgrade :p

26. neutralguy

Posts: 1152; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

lumia 8pureview

6. Roomaku

Posts: 278; Member since: Feb 06, 2012

Probably an 8 mp so they can keep the form factor down. It'll still be tight, but the majority of people are going to not even notice Nokia when the the new iPhone comes out... unfortunately :(

14. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2349; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

They will be to bizzy ' standing in line.. waiting for a "new" designed iPhone.. lol

20. Roomaku

Posts: 278; Member since: Feb 06, 2012

You mean the revolutionary "new" design! LOL

21. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

thahahaha u just taunted iphone

18. ravi5695

Posts: 75; Member since: Feb 11, 2011

unfortunately.... its not gonna happen... iphone's bad time has started with the launch of WP8...

7. jove39

Posts: 2145; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Well...a real Pure view 41mp would've saved nokia from further drowning...not sure about 8mp...and any logic/justification Damian use to defend 8mp shooter is waste!!!

9. ogy_dogy

Posts: 453; Member since: Jun 29, 2012

Nokia needs to realise that people are stupid, and would rather have a 41 mp shooter that makes lousy photos (not that it does, this is just an example) and say they got 41mp than to have a 8mp shooter which makes awesome pics.... tis sad but true...

30. weinerslav

Posts: 126; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

Sad but true, you just need to check some comments here (ok, some are already gone) to see how people defend the megapixel count over quality... And this is between people that apparently understand something about technology!!! Doesn't matter how good you are, it only matters that you manage to sell it (and fool a few)

10. lsguntu

Posts: 67; Member since: Aug 06, 2012

Damn ... I did not even wait for my exam results this anxiously..Now I am waiting for Sep 5th

13. Roomaku

Posts: 278; Member since: Feb 06, 2012

LOL I think Nokia is waiting anxiously also

15. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2349; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

Same here... lol .. THE WORLD AWAITS!! Nokia...

16. noriya

Posts: 12; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

hi,do you know when nokia start the event?i meant the time and also where?thanks.

22. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2349; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

NYC .. I think? Not sure what time..

17. bayhuy

Posts: 320; Member since: Jun 23, 2011

So, he actually said: "It's impossible to put PureView camera in a smartphone and in the same time to keep thin profile and good looking design. So we chose to put 8mp regular shooter, and we will try to fool you that it's PureView."

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