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Windows 10 desktop version will launch before Windows 10 for Phones

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Windows 10 desktop version will launch before Windows 10 for Phones
Microsoft's Joe Belfiore said at this past week's Build conference that the release of Windows 10 for Phone won't take place until after the desktop version of the OS is launched. That means that while the PC version of Windows 10 will be released this summer, Windows 10 for Phone might not see the light of day until the fall. And Lumia devices that launch with Windows 10 for Phone out of the box won't be available until later this year.

Microsoft also states that not all of the Windows 10 features will be ready at launch. As the summer turns into fall, more and more features will be added to the platform. Some features not expected to be ready at launch include extensions for the new Microsoft Edge browser, and a messaging app offering built-in Skype connectivity.

While Microsoft doesn't officially have a launch date for Windows 10 in mind, if it does get released this summer, there will be plenty of quick additions, updates, new features and more. The only thing that we can say at this point is that sometime before the end of the year we should see Windows 10 for Phone available for current handsets, followed by new Lumia models with Windows 10 pre-installed. Belfiore, the long time face of Windows Phone, notes that "Our phone builds have not been as far along as our PC builds. We’re adapting the phone experiences later than we’re adding the PC experiences."

source: TheVerge via MobileSyrup

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posted on 01 May 2015, 22:09 8

1. xq10xa (Posts: 673; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Windows 10 is so much better than 8. The newest update on 10 made it so much better too.

posted on 01 May 2015, 22:19

2. waddup121 (unregistered)


oh yeah for sure!

posted on 02 May 2015, 02:01

8. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


How so?

posted on 01 May 2015, 22:31 2

3. Beijendorf (Posts: 340; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


So no new flagships until Christmas 2015.

posted on 01 May 2015, 22:37

4. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Duh....Too obvious

posted on 01 May 2015, 22:41

5. 99nights (Posts: 1152; Member since: 10 Mar 2015)


Can't wait to get rid of windows 8. Every time I turn my pc on it makes me want to throw up. Only got it cos they first announced people with 8 would get the free upgrade to 10 but now everyone is.

posted on 01 May 2015, 22:48 2

6. meanestgenius (Posts: 10525; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Well, this sucks for Windows Phone users. I am Windows Pro user, and my Windows device of choice is the Surface Pro 3, so I'm good. I just feel bad for those currently using Windows Phone as their platform of choice, as they will have to wait until at least the fall for current users, and later still for new hardware. I hope this doesn't push some Windows Phone users to leave the platform out of frustration or impatience. Should that happen, they may not come back.

posted on 02 May 2015, 06:47

19. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Depending on the phone, it's not like they are hurting. A 250$ 1520 isnt some slouch, the camera is still among the best, easily top 5, if not trading blows for 1st. The screen is huge, everyone thinks its 2k or higher, the brightness is still top notch. The battery life? top notch, if not better than the competition. SD support, a chip that is not taxed so no need for an 808 if it simply just works, fast. The only thing it doesnt have, stylus. And if you are on the preview you have mouse and keyboard support.

Now if you are on the 521 waiting for a flagship, it's not like they have big cash to begin with. And at that i would still point them to a 250 phone that simply cant be touched at that price point.

posted on 02 May 2015, 07:02

21. meanestgenius (Posts: 10525; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Still, if you were holding out for some Windows Phone "newness", you're going to have to wait. There are plenty of people that simply won't wait, especially with the onslaught of new Android handsets being released.

If you look at which Windows handsets are in use the most, the flagship 1520 has a small piece of the pizza. Those on the 9xx, 8xx series and 7xx series will be anxious to upgrade to some better hardware (excluding the 930), and be disappointed that they cannot.

posted on 02 May 2015, 10:14

25. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


True, though the 930 is no slouch either. Again, best in class camera, or at least a tie, snap 8xx is worthy. Only thing it is missing is sd slot (but has 32gb and i had 190 apps on it and still had 16gb left), 4k recording. 1080p screen is very very crisp and again bright.

The no glance and average battery is probably its only flaws.

For me it is all about the 'new' so i understand. But a few months shouldnt be to much of a problem. I guess if your used to a new phone every year it could be a stretch.

posted on 02 May 2015, 00:02

7. andrew322 (Posts: 1; Member since: 02 May 2015)


Using a Windows computer? Here's some advice: don’t freak out if it starts going slow sometimes. It’s 100% annoying 100% of the time, but most of them can be easily made like new again. There’s free software available on detoxyourpc.com that will make it run like new again and maintain it. Just stay on top of that clutter!

posted on 02 May 2015, 05:47

17. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)


Those are Android devices that gets slow on updates desktop Windows doesn't get noticeably slower unless they were slow at the beginning plus you can always change the hardware on any PC unlike phones.

posted on 02 May 2015, 11:55

28. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Desktop windows doesn't get slow huh?

So MS fixed a 15 year old problem?

Let's be honest, EVERY OS SLOWS DOWN. How slow and how easy it is to fix, that's what makes a difference.

In any case Win8 FINALLY makes it somewhat easy to fix that problem. Going to some stupid website is for suckers who live with WinXP. Not that crap like that EVER WORKED!

Only thing that truly kills is a reinstall. Android users can simply clean the cache or do a full reset.

posted on 02 May 2015, 20:48

30. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


clean cache doesn't always work. If a user messes with it, yes it will slow down.

However, I am running the same install of 8 since day one, it was an upgrade from 7 which was an upgrade from vista. Now I am no avg user, but it hasn't slowed down just because. And if it has, it is so minimal it doesn't affect my 3d rendering in blender

posted on 03 May 2015, 06:22

32. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)


Clean the cache and do a full rest, you kidding me? You say you can't clean the cache and do a full reset on Windows?

Every OS slows down but how? When you're PC is full of malwares,worms & viruses that's not MS problem and that's why it gets slow overall and the only way left is erasing everything.

But if you want to compare desktop Windows to Android, Android gets noticeably slower from the first use but why ram management Android use all of your ram to keeps all your programs ready to start so when you got a lot of programs it gets slow while phones can't have more than 3 or 4 good of ram normal PCs today has at least 4 or 8 gigs so they don't get slow that way and they had the option not to load everything at the start up or at all while Android doesn't.

posted on 02 May 2015, 02:19

9. Dude2014 (Posts: 436; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)


By that time, their maketshare will be like 1% or something.

posted on 02 May 2015, 03:50

12. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 1373; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)


If its not already. Windows phone have always been dead. Now they are so far behind that only if MS gave free unicorns with each WP they would get resurrected. No new flagship in almost a year. While samsung and apple are raping even companies in much better position that WP. RIP WP.

posted on 02 May 2015, 06:52 1

20. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Samsung has done an excellent job. They own the android market, and is one reason they didnt sign on to use Symbian or MeeGo when talks were being done as early as 08. They wanted control, and a free os gave them that. Now people, lots and lots of people, literally think samsung is android, and stuff like lg etc isnt, until you show them the app store etc.

But another reason for the paultry numbers, sales folk, from down right lies to simply selling stuff people dont need. I have saved many customers from leaving by getting them into a 635 and out of their droid they were unhappy with. This is a daily occurance, and even i get flak from the sales people for selling it.

posted on 02 May 2015, 07:09 2

22. meanestgenius (Posts: 10525; Member since: 28 May 2014)


On this, you and I agree. At retail outlets, there are just too many biased salespeople that always push potential customers to Android handsets and the iPhone. There are also those that just simply don't have the knowledge of Windows Phones, and push clientele elsewhere.

posted on 02 May 2015, 10:15 1

26. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Very much so. I still recommend android, cause a windows phone is not an end all solution for everyone. But when they want a hundred buck phone and they hate the l90 or alcatel...the 635 slides right in with LTE to boot, and the kids control is great for parents and for the older gen that doesnt care about selfies, again great.

posted on 02 May 2015, 04:51

14. gaming64 (unregistered)


By the time they release Windows 10, Microsoft had already owned 80% of the PC market.

posted on 02 May 2015, 02:19

10. Dude2014 (Posts: 436; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)


By that time, their maketshare will be like 1% or something.

posted on 02 May 2015, 03:25

11. MrHate (Posts: 220; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)


Microsoft logic. Wants to connect everything still isn't releasing Windows 10 not at the same time for all platform.

posted on 02 May 2015, 04:12

13. Cyberchum (Posts: 666; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


MSFT should release it already, getting bored waiting for it.

posted on 02 May 2015, 04:53

15. gaming64 (unregistered)


From the simple uncluttered Windows 7 to the WTF Windows 8 to the cluttered Start menu of Windows 10.

posted on 02 May 2015, 06:01 1

18. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Cluttered? cause there is like 5 things on there, that gasp you can remove

posted on 02 May 2015, 05:43

16. olatgf (Posts: 37; Member since: 02 May 2015)


I'll reserve the comment till it finally launches..

posted on 02 May 2015, 07:17

23. pureviewuser (Posts: 494; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)


New phones are expected soon with the hardware necessary to get windows 10 update when it's released

posted on 02 May 2015, 09:36

24. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Windows 8 is horrible. Windows xp and windows 7 were great but they screwed up the rest. Let's hope windows 10 is good.

posted on 02 May 2015, 10:31

27. frogprince (Posts: 9; Member since: 27 Apr 2015)


different dates for release? not so unified OS, now is it?

posted on 02 May 2015, 20:50

31. elitewolverine (Posts: 5121; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


how is it not unified? That is like saying lollipop isn't unified. Well I guess you could say it isn't.

However. Big difference in getting an open desktop to release, where patches and updates are so much quicker to hit VS carrier meddling.

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