Video suggests Tegra 3 HTC One X is faster than the S4 version
There are some reasons for skepticism; the boot animations aren’t identical, and it was noted that the Snapdragon S4 version showed “upgrading Android” during boot up (presumably because the Dalvik cache was wiped before the test). Also, while probably not a major factor, the Snapdragon One X was in airplane mode (presumably due to not having a SIM card for it) while the other phone was not.
It’s doubtful that either of those caveats fully explain the benchmark discrepancy – the Tegra 3 pulled a 9713 versus the Snapdragon S4’s 5640 – but perhaps more important is that the AT&T phone is still a preproduction device, so you can’t consider this official until we have a shipping device on our hands. It should also be noted that the read-write speed of the Tegra 3 phone was much better during the benchmark, so some of this may come down to the flash memory that AT&T specified versus the international unit.
That said, we wouldn’t be shocked if the quad-core Tegra 3 can beat the dual-core S4 at some benchmarks. We hope by now that most of you know that different benchmarks can contradict one another, and they don’t fully correlate to a better user experience. But if you want to make up your own mind, take a gander at the video below:
1. Captain_Doug (Posts: 820; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
That doesn't leave much room for interpretation. The tegra3 processor seems to nail it hard.
2. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, that's a botched test. even my Razr can get around 6200.
52. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
This is the Rogers version of the AT&T One X with SHIPPING firmware. 7000 Antutu. Not great, but Antutu seems to assign more weight to having more cores.
Too bad in many other benchmarks the One XL/AT&T One X blows away Tegra 3.
3. TrainFromUkraine (Posts: 63; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
Are these using the same version of Antutu? UI looks different and I did not see the FPS counter during the graphics test on the AT&T version.
4. LahiruRD (Posts: 8; Member since: 24 Mar 2012)
Even my XS scores 6500. There's a problem with the AT&T's One X.
5. sorcio46 (Posts: 416; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Antutu test is one of the few softwares in Android full optimized for quad-cores, so S4 Krait can beat Tegra 3 in everying else and with a lower power consuption.
6. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)
Right - this test is with the dual-core S4, not Krait. With the smaller die process I don't think anyone doubts the power of Krait. The main reason this is more interesting than the average benchmark video is that HTC/AT&T decided to change the CPU in the same phone model, so if it turns out that one model significantly outperforms the other, it calls into question that decisions (and how consumers will response).
But until PA can verify the results on a production phone and control the testing procedure, this is just preliminary data at best.
16. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)
Right, but we are comparing a dual-core S4 to a quad-core Tegra 3.../snip
Edit: Oops, I see! I meant to write "this test is with the dual-core S4, not _the quad-core_ Krait".
That's what happens when you try to squeeze in responses between articles. Carry on!
22. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
correct, but your also comparing a quadcore A9 on 40nm wafers vs a self proclaimed "A15 equivilant" on 28nm wafers. If the s4 was nearly as fast as it tries to compare itself to, it would wipe the floor with the T3 chip.
What screen is on the oneX again? 720p or Qhd?
Heck, the quad A9 exynos 4212 will destroy both of them.
29. Dr.Phil (Posts: 952; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
If you go over to droid-life, they just posted the Antutu benchmarks for the "supposed" GSIII. It apparently has a dual-core 4212 Exynos processor instead of a quad-core (I still think its the GSII plus). It scored higher than the Transformer Prime.
31. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I get all hot inside when I think of a future Cortex A15 based quad core Exynos lol...hurry up Samsung pls k thx
37. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Yeah, I agree. Quads on 32nm will beat the crap out of Quads on 40nm and Duals on 28nm. I was wondering why Qualcomm released Krait so early, they could have waited for their Quad-Krait and that will be at par or even better than the Quad-core Exynos.
42. corrifa (Posts: 34; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
Its 720p S-LCD2 if you're being serious. And still even if the exynos 4212 is super fast, if apps arent made to support the higher multithreading, there will be no point and the S4 probably would win in some circumstances. Then again, Samsung makes a meannn processor...
47. E34V8 (Posts: 60; Member since: 16 Dec 2011)
The 40nm huawei k3v2 outperforms both chipsets (using 64 bit memory is a great advantage), specially in 3D. I can only imagine what will the 32nm Exynos do. I'm not a 100% sure, but i think it also uses a 64 bit memory.
And when the A15 chips from ARM and Samsung arive they wil be on another level.
50. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
4 Cortex A9s at 1.5 GHz vs 4 Cortex A9s at 1.5 GHz.
Yes, tell me more about how the Exynos 4412, not the 4212 which is dual core at 1.8 GHz, is supposed to beat a Tegra 3 in CPU when they have the same architecture at the same clockspeed.
The only thing that the Exynos will definitively beat the Tegra 3 on is GPU and bandwidth.
11. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the 4th Generation Snapdragon uses Krait Architecture.
7. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
I like Tegra devices, not sure why people downplay Nvidia but games and apps run smooth like any other device. My Photon doesn't seem to put massive #s on benchmark apps, but when it comes to actually using the GPU , it just works. That's all that matters to me. :)
39. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Well these techy geeks are looking for the most powerful device out there. Not necessarily the most useful though. :p
It's like in cars, some people 'wants' to have a car with a V8 engine that can run at 200mph though they'll probably never get to flex it's muscles in their lifetime. But still, it's fun to have a powerhouse :p
I had a very old Sony Ericsson P990i while it was in it's prime and I loved it :p It was powerful then, only beat by it's bigger brother, the half qwerty half nightmare P1.
40. ph00ny (Posts: 606; Member since: 26 May 2011)
You obviously didn't use tegra2 based devices
It couldn't even play high profile video clips recorded in other dual core devices
41. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
you must mean the Crapdragon because the OMAP4 has support for more formats than the Tegra II.
9. leftheodo (Posts: 70; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
AT&T's bloatware running in the background affects the performance! The 2 phones don't run the same version of AnTuTu ! The 2 CPUs are almost equal!
43. corrifa (Posts: 34; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
I doubt the version of the benchmark or the small amount of bloatware would affect it that much.
AnTutu is optimized four quad core cpus so it can take advantage of all of T3's a9 cores.
-Most (all) other benchmarks arent.
---if they arent optimized, the T3 will only use the number of cores that the app is designed for
--------------------- Core vs Core, the S4 is faster then the T3.. More apps will get optimized though for quad core,.
10. jdot104 (Posts: 60; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
How does it test SD card read/write speeds if neither model has an SD card available?
13. jellytime (Posts: 135; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Top comment on youtube
"1296Mhz on HTC One XL? something's not right should be 1500Mhz...."
Could someone explain where it says 1296 Mhz?
24. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1611; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
If you go to 4:23 in the video, CPU frequency says 1296 Mhz (third line up from the bottom). The international version does say 1500 Mhz. I wonder if has anything to do with AT&T version of OS. That bothers me now, too. :/
15. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Still fail against a windows phone in terms of boot speed with 4 additional core. (4+1 vs 1)
17. sorcio46 (Posts: 416; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
HTC fast boot can beat even a macbook air with SSD fanboy buy a Win-Bain (before it does BSOD) !
20. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Well what do u expect, it take's 370 mb
of ram to run Android, wher as windows
require around 130 to run half baked OS!
46. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
lol another excuse when they all do the same. fandroid
33. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
It's either 4 OR 1 working, not 4+1=5, that's just marketing and very wrong if you are talking about how the processor works, which is when "1" is working "4" is/are sleeping, or the other way around.
Also you can't compare a fully featured OS like Android against WP7, at least not yet, Android is way heavier to lift, and WP7 is very well optimized, that's the one thing Microsoft did right
18. thnkthru3 (Posts: 73; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
I'll take the Tegra3 version thank you...Oh wait...I can't because on this side of the pond we have AT&Ts decision to dumb down our first crack at quadcore sweetness.in favor of LTE...(We should have quadcore and LTE) It must be a conspiracy! I pray they don't do this with the Samsung S3.
26. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4125; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
They did that because in order for the Tegra 3 to have LTE it needs a separate LTE radio. S4 has one built in. And the S4 is more or less an equivalent to the Tegra 3 in performance, it's just there were differences between those 2 devices in the video regarding software, not the processor, that made it seem like the Tegra 3 was faster. But if it really means that much to you, the quad-core Exynos chip should have LTE capabilities. If not, then it's most likely gonna run the S4, which will be less powerful than the Exynos because the new Exynos always beats the competition, and holds the title for a long while. But still, the S4 is plenty powerful, there will probably be virtually no lag, unless the user or AT&T does something software wise to mess it up.
19. skymitch89 (Posts: 1145; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I see a major error in this video. The phone on the left is supposed to be the Tegra 3 at 1.5GHz and the right one the S4 at 1.3GHz? The At&t version is supposed to be 1.5GHz as well (or PhoneArena has incorrect information about it). Also, both phones have HTC at the top where as At&t's version has "at&t" at the top.
27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4125; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yeah, I noticed that too. The AT&T brand isn't on the phone line it should be. I think this is a bogus video
21. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
crapdragon. Its even lagging in comparison to the tegra 3 just wait till the REAL competition comes out. A15 my arse.
23. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yup. yup yup..
haters gonna hate, but that doesnt make you less right :)
25. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
agreed lol. Lets see samsung conquered A-9 single core, A-9 dual core, and who can guess whats next? A-15 dual-core and A-9 Quad-core kings.
28. jabberwocky (Posts: 89; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
You guys are something else. When benches show your favorite processors losing anything, you claim that benches don't translate into real-world performance. When you win, you claim failure by the competition.
A15 is an architecture, not process size, clockspeed, number of cores, or even paired graphics solutions - or even benchmarks. Qualcomm based it off of their license of the A15 instruction set, and they may or may not be the fastest of the A15 variations, but it doesn't mean it's any less A15.
You can complain about the performance (out of both sides of your mouth if you prefer) all day long, but suggesting that it is not A15 architecture is a bit absurd.
32. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Its not a15 its krait but they claim its an a15 equivalent. Clearly not. Also im basing it off of the the actual phone wuth t3 clearly outpreforming the s4.
34. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i think you need to read up on your chips before reprimanding people. Qualcomm makes their own designs. They call them "equivalents" to compare them to ARM, but they are not ARM chips. They licence ARM for compatibility reasons, but they do not make ARM.
Honestly, they should have just called them "A9+".. because they are not up to A15 snuff.
35. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
remixa i found info on the sgs3 posted recently on engadget.http://www.engadget.com/2012/0
A15 dual core here we come.
44. corrifa (Posts: 34; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)
On a performance level I would say the S4 is closer to A15 rather then A9.
Maybe an A-12 ? ;)
45. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
No such thing. Its krait anyway not arm.
48. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Your understanding of architectures and licensing of them is bad and you should feel bad for spreading misinformation.
49. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
They don't "license ARM", they make processors that run code written for ARM chips. They can be relatively compared in terms of performance levels, which is why people talk about Scorpion cores being a better Cortex A8, or Krait as being a Cortex A15. It's a valid comparison and you are a random person on the internet who doesn't have access to Cortex A15 anyway, so I'd rather take insider sources at their word.
Please kindly stop being so misinformed, Krait is only slightly slower than A15 clock for clock with more emphasis on power consumption.
51. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
are you just trying to argue for the sake of arguing? just what do you think it IS when one company uses code from another company? just think that over real quick and get back to us when you're ready. :P
38. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4125; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Considering this video is fake, and that the S4 is the highest performing dual-core out on any smartphone right now (without being overclocked) I really don't see why you are giving Qualcomm so much grief about this.
30. ngo2dd (Posts: 815; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
My 3D with ics ROM at 1.5 get over 6300 and I know for a fact that my 3D is not faster then the One XL. If you look at the score for antutu the gpu of the One XL is better then the One X. That score is lest then a T2 score. It is not update for the new chips
53. wedding21 (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Apr 2012)
right. The phone has not disappointed me so far. I love the light weight, great design and the finishing. Apart from the great HTC Sense overlay, I love how the phone feels on my hand and every one who has seen the phone has fallen in love with it. The camera is pretty awesome as i. it is a 2.0 - which means it takes great low light images and ii. it can take images whilst shooting video. The speed at which the cam focuses it amazing.